several things still are not right. the nfs debugging in the dmesg says nfs_getauth: clnt princ=NULL. two WrongSecs happen this way as root, at least one for my .login_conf and maybe eh one to see if my home directory exists.

nope didnt change anything

ugh

fuck sake

maybe its an issue with disk io errors

lemme reinstall xorg entirely

just in case

as I observe that disk IO stops entirely half way through loading xorg

boo

i installed, like, the nvidia driver, but not xorg, and it pulled in the xorg server packages *but not* the drivers for the keyboard and mouse

so then i ran X and got a blank black screen and the only way to make it go away was (a) to hit the power button, or (b) to ssh in and kill X

i found out about the -retro switch to the X server, without which the default behavior is to show a blank black screen and to leave the mouse cursor set to *nothing* until something sets it

wait hold up

what happens?

oh nvm

which is fine and good if you are running a desktop environment or window manager, it's smoother that way, but if you just run X to see if it works -- blank black screen, no mouse cursor

I am getting a blank black screen, mouse cursor

and the xorg logs show after the cursor is loaded

then nothing

im honestly clueless of what to do now

uh oh. yes mouse cursor and *then* nothing?

yes...

like the only thing I can think of is to resort to a snapshot of root

but that was quite the while ago :/

I was meaning to setup auto-snapshotting buttt

lol

lemme try that then I guess

welp, that worked

so its not a hardware failure

hmh!

well that's good at least

alright I disabled the kmod repo

doing a pkg upgrade and then going to try rebooting and see if I can still get into xorg

I also need to installkernel/installworld again

hmmm

maybe its a kmod change...

lemme see what the git history shows

drm-66-kmod is removed, in favour for something else

could be a change of default version

drm-612-kmod, i'd imagine?

err?

isnt that lower than 66

oh wait no

6.12 right

612

so its higher

i believe it's 6.12 not 6.1.2 :)

yeah

fucking Linux software and their shitty versioning

yeah. i thought the same thing. oh 66 that's bigger

should I write a blogpost on the pains of freebsd desktop I wonder :p

honestly I thought freebsd desktop progressed to the point where graphics issues were done for good

:/

is this current hardware?

DoofusCanadensis: no

ivy bridge

I don't know what ivy bridge is

3rd gen intel

it is an intel chipset designation

and around what years was it produced?

2013

thanks

I have a 2012 system that I've struggled to get desktop working on

I suspect I'd have an easier time on more current hardware

I have heard the opposite

framework is best supported

oh?

but newer hardware until 15.0 had driver issues

framework is new hardware, tho

yes

but its explicitly supported

I *really* need to setup autosnapshotting

ok yeah drm-612-kmod

if this breaks, I am going to try drm-66-kmod again

checking the git history of the port repo now

ffs scrubbing the ports takes forever...

hmmm

drm hasnt been touched since 29th Sep

and that was...

ah

27th Sep there was an update the the latest drm kmods...

hmmm

reproduced, there is definitely an issue with drm-612-kmod

I am going to try drm-latest-kmod first, to see if its been patched already, and if not go back to drm-66-kmod and see if it works

hurray!

seems there is similar issues with coffee lake (8th gen) using i915drm on bugzilla with drm-612-kmod

something inside feels like it might not be the kmod though

and its something completely arbitary which was also included in the port update recently

ah I didnt think of checking dmesg

interesting, /var/log/messages shows nothing

after startx theres no further logs anywhere

the entire userspace is kaputt

O_o

oh this is so.. sloooow

oh it's slow because of nfs. interesting

latest failed

going back to 66 to test that

I hope to fuck this works

otherwise I have no more ideas

hm yes i am on 66

i think that means i failed with 612 and my legacy nvidia driver

FUCK YEAH

IT FUCKING WORKS

I have only lost my entire fucking night to this

jaredj: 612 seems buggy

I see other issues with it

which makes me wonder why drm-kmod is not defaulting to 612 when its buggy

lemme cc #freebsd-desktop

wooo great work!