00:07:56 several things still are not right. the nfs debugging in the dmesg says nfs_getauth: clnt princ=NULL. two WrongSecs happen this way as root, at least one for my .login_conf and maybe eh one to see if my home directory exists. 00:29:03 nope didnt change anything 00:29:13 ugh 00:29:15 fuck sake 00:29:23 maybe its an issue with disk io errors 00:29:27 lemme reinstall xorg entirely 00:29:31 just in case 00:29:45 as I observe that disk IO stops entirely half way through loading xorg 00:38:19 boo 00:39:27 i installed, like, the nvidia driver, but not xorg, and it pulled in the xorg server packages *but not* the drivers for the keyboard and mouse 00:40:05 so then i ran X and got a blank black screen and the only way to make it go away was (a) to hit the power button, or (b) to ssh in and kill X 00:40:45 i found out about the -retro switch to the X server, without which the default behavior is to show a blank black screen and to leave the mouse cursor set to *nothing* until something sets it 00:41:04 wait hold up 00:41:07 what happens? 00:41:16 oh nvm 00:41:17 which is fine and good if you are running a desktop environment or window manager, it's smoother that way, but if you just run X to see if it works -- blank black screen, no mouse cursor 00:41:30 I am getting a blank black screen, mouse cursor 00:41:38 and the xorg logs show after the cursor is loaded 00:41:40 then nothing 00:41:50 im honestly clueless of what to do now 00:41:52 uh oh. yes mouse cursor and *then* nothing? 00:41:58 yes... 00:43:33 like the only thing I can think of is to resort to a snapshot of root 00:43:52 but that was quite the while ago :/ 00:44:04 I was meaning to setup auto-snapshotting buttt 00:44:06 lol 00:44:51 lemme try that then I guess 00:51:36 welp, that worked 00:51:40 so its not a hardware failure 00:51:47 hmh! 00:52:04 well that's good at least 00:52:47 alright I disabled the kmod repo 00:53:33 doing a pkg upgrade and then going to try rebooting and see if I can still get into xorg 00:53:40 I also need to installkernel/installworld again 00:56:10 hmmm 00:56:17 maybe its a kmod change... 00:56:24 lemme see what the git history shows 00:56:49 drm-66-kmod is removed, in favour for something else 00:57:06 could be a change of default version 00:57:20 drm-612-kmod, i'd imagine? 00:57:31 err? 00:57:41 isnt that lower than 66 00:57:47 oh wait no 00:57:49 6.12 right 00:57:51 612 00:57:53 so its higher 00:57:54 i believe it's 6.12 not 6.1.2 :) 00:57:56 yeah 00:58:06 fucking Linux software and their shitty versioning 00:58:17 yeah. i thought the same thing. oh 66 that's bigger 01:00:02 should I write a blogpost on the pains of freebsd desktop I wonder :p 01:00:21 honestly I thought freebsd desktop progressed to the point where graphics issues were done for good 01:00:28 :/ 01:00:58 is this current hardware? 01:01:03 DoofusCanadensis: no 01:01:08 ivy bridge 01:01:16 I don't know what ivy bridge is 01:01:27 3rd gen intel 01:01:29 it is an intel chipset designation 01:01:39 and around what years was it produced? 01:01:42 2013 01:01:48 thanks 01:02:02 I have a 2012 system that I've struggled to get desktop working on 01:02:12 I suspect I'd have an easier time on more current hardware 01:02:21 I have heard the opposite 01:02:25 framework is best supported 01:02:31 oh? 01:02:32 but newer hardware until 15.0 had driver issues 01:02:47 framework is new hardware, tho 01:03:06 yes 01:03:10 but its explicitly supported 01:03:46 I *really* need to setup autosnapshotting 01:04:05 ok yeah drm-612-kmod 01:04:22 if this breaks, I am going to try drm-66-kmod again 01:05:30 checking the git history of the port repo now 01:06:05 ffs scrubbing the ports takes forever... 01:07:58 hmmm 01:08:07 drm hasnt been touched since 29th Sep 01:08:13 and that was... 01:08:16 ah 01:08:26 27th Sep there was an update the the latest drm kmods... 01:09:26 hmmm 01:16:12 reproduced, there is definitely an issue with drm-612-kmod 01:16:36 I am going to try drm-latest-kmod first, to see if its been patched already, and if not go back to drm-66-kmod and see if it works 01:19:20 hurray! 01:19:21 seems there is similar issues with coffee lake (8th gen) using i915drm on bugzilla with drm-612-kmod 01:19:31 something inside feels like it might not be the kmod though 01:19:43 and its something completely arbitary which was also included in the port update recently 01:22:15 ah I didnt think of checking dmesg 01:25:31 interesting, /var/log/messages shows nothing 01:25:42 after startx theres no further logs anywhere 01:25:47 the entire userspace is kaputt 01:25:57 O_o 01:27:52 oh this is so.. sloooow 01:29:18 oh it's slow because of nfs. interesting 01:35:27 latest failed 01:35:35 going back to 66 to test that 01:35:39 I hope to fuck this works 01:35:43 otherwise I have no more ideas 01:36:19 hm yes i am on 66 01:36:56 i think that means i failed with 612 and my legacy nvidia driver 01:38:41 FUCK YEAH 01:38:43 IT FUCKING WORKS 01:38:55 I have only lost my entire fucking night to this 01:39:19 jaredj: 612 seems buggy 01:39:25 I see other issues with it 01:39:35 which makes me wonder why drm-kmod is not defaulting to 612 when its buggy 01:39:41 lemme cc #freebsd-desktop 01:43:48 wooo great work!