Why would the serial console be nonfunctional during boot-up?

Conker: define nonfunctional and boot-up

kevans: I see the mobo POST output on both serial console and a monitor, but when prompted for the GELI passphrase, the console goes blank and is only visible on the monitor.

UEFI?

kevans: no

After using an attached keyboard to enter the passphrase, the serial console starts showing the remainder of the boot process eventually landing at a "login:" prompt. But not during that GELI step

Conker: for BIOS, the GELI passphrase comes before we hit loader out of necessity, so we're in a pretty limited environment and don't do console probing

(the situation is probably better on UEFI, where we have the whole-ass loader on the ESP and start there)

kevans: I see. So I'd need to reinstall. The drive is formated GPT, but I don't imagine it's possible to convert an existing install, given the boot part looks to be 512K

Conker: depends on the layout of the disk, traditionally we ask for >= 200M ESP but that ESP doesn't have to be at the beginning of the disk

i've seen a few instances where folks decided they could happily slice off 200M of swap and still be happy on average

kevans: And there is a 4G swap I could make smaller, hmm, might be worth more trouble than a reinstall but I might try it

*nod* in the general case, if losing 5% of your swap is critically bad then I suspect you have larger problems than this, I think

kevans: Fair, yeah. Okay I'll get things switched to UEFI and hopefully that settles the matter. Thanks!

Conker: sounds good, let us know how it goes

will do!

that's extremely annoying: if you don't set inet_protocols in /usr/local/etc/postfix/main.cf, the package edits it to force "inet_protocols = ipv4"

<kevans> i wonder if there's some way we could've made the template # a bitmask and done combinations that way

Rhat’s exactly what i’d initially guessed when i saw it.

But it would make testing more of a pain.

there any prob having a single binary using 100GB ram if my system has it?

demido: I don't see why it would pose a problem

nice

Heya, is there any tool to see file history across zfs snapshots for a given file?

mccd: zfs diff, most likely?

cyric afaik zfs diff only shows that a file has been modified, not what actually changed

:q

Hi! I have two GPT partitions, one containing an unencrypted zpool (for rescue purposes if the other zpool gets broken) and another containing a zfs-nativeencrypted zpool. I want to choose, at boot time, which of these zpools to boot. What's the recommended way to accomplishh it?

Btw, my computer is a BIOS-one, not a UEFI-one.

Or, is it only possible to dual-boot two freebsd installatoins if the reside in the same pool?

fetchmail

*u** ;)

andreas303: i do not know if that's a supported loader configuration

rtprio: Ah, OK. I will probably put both systems in the same pool then, and use bectl to dual-boot different datasets.

yeah, managing them as two separate boot environments would be cleanest

you *can* do the other way, but it requires more tricks at boot time

so if i wanted to boot freebsd in bhyve without a root filesystem, can i make it somehow run the loader on the host? i guess this is what bhyveload is for...

not sure how far that would get with a loader and no kernel

question was unclear, i mean it has no root block device (for EDK II to boot from), the root filesystem is 9pfs

ivy: yeah, that's bhyveload/userboot

There is a bios update for my laptop but it’s an exe what should I do to update the bios I only have FreeBSD

oxbar: boot into FreeDOS?

hodapp: I burned the freedos iso earlier but the usb isn’t recognizing it.. maybe I should download a different version

oxbar: sometimes they provide the update as either an image file you can load from the firmware interface, or a UEFI executable (.efi) which might be easier to use

Got it

I got a JMB585 PCIe AHCI SATA card. FreeBSD detects it: termbin.com/f4vi But for some reason, all five ports show up as "disabled". How do I enable them?

zilti: can you show dmesg part where it shows disabled ports?

cyric: there is none, in the dmesg the ports show up as "ahcich0: <AHCI channel> at channel 0 on ahci0" etc

zilti: so what is the actual problem? disabled BARs don't tell much, especially IO ones, newer cards tend to use MMIO

There's HDDs connected on two of the five ports

Hmm. So the problem is something else then, I suppose. The disks definitely don't show up. I'll check the connectors

ivy: you going to EuroBSDCon?

no

why not?

cyric: Ahh, my HDD brackets were mislabeled, so I screwed them in wrongly :D Everything works now!

Thanks for the nudge that it isn't the controller/freebsd

anyone involved in maintaining x11/gnome here?

Nope, I host the build systems for the testing of the KDE Plasma though

ok.. i'm hitting gnome@

i spoke with hte new head of the gnome foundation and expressed the 'frustration' in the BSD community about their latest moves.

he actually was very responsive....

the deps are more gdm than gnome afaik

I feel bad for the gnome users honestly

I don't like Gnome at all, but not having it current as an alternative is a missed opportunity for FreeBSD imho

i'd say it's missed opportunity for gnome, but i doubt they really care

right, well they the point is hte new gnome foundation head does seem to care

i dont use gnome at all....

xfce for decades

but ti's about the open source ecosystem

Allan directed me to the fbsd desktop alias