cracauer, major lol @ that germany map

jbo: I am from Hamburg, so... :-)

cracauer :D

hmm. i wonder how hard it would be to maintain different versions of gcc and clang to do regression testing

not at all?

multiple versions of gcc and llvm are available from ports

has anyone experience when a bhyve shows as STOPPED but when you try to start it, with vm start <bhyve image> it says it is running.. like it is locked in a loop of NOT knowing what is going on with it?

voy4g3r2, yes

voy4g3r2, althought maybe not... I ran usually into the issue that after shutting the VM down it said "locked" and never transitioned to "stopped"

kevans, any update on the newlib stuff?

jbo: is there some kind of "lockfile" that prohibited you? i do not see anything in my /stroage/bhyve/current directory even with ls -lsa

it baffles me.. vm poweroff current vm stop current all say it is not running.. until i do vm start current.. it is like i am running.. how is that even possible?

voy4g3r2, got a bhyve process running?

Title: dpaste/WW45Q (Plain Text)

nope.. nothing

ps -aux | grep bhyve no?

nope, even ps ax | grep bhyve

i just see the grep command itself :)

voy4g3r2, what does 'vm list' report in that state?

Title: dpaste/bsBL8 (Plain Text)

it is stopped :)

voy4g3r2, oh, so you are starting it and it simply doesn't seem to start?

yeah, sorry i may not have been very clear

voy4g3r2, this looks like sysutils/vm-bhyve: check the vm-bhyve.log file in the vm dir

status one code exit..

well looks like some debug options are needed, better than i was before

i think i am just going to try and reboot this host.. to make this easier

i do not get it..

reboot the damn host and it is now working..

Did you try turning it off and back on?

i will chalk this up to .. it is just being a pain

skered: yup

IT crowd in full effect!

great british show! just awesomeness

i should put that on my rewatch list.. if i can find it on a service

voy4g3r2, for the past few days I started to suspect that might be something fishy going on with the nvme disk backend

but I have no proof yet.

voy4g3r2, what's your host oS?

freebsd 14

14.0-RELEASE-p3

FreeBSD momas.home 14.0-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Mon Dec 11 05:07:37 UTC 2023 root⊙adn:/usr/obj/usr/src/arm64.aarch64/sys/GENERIC arm64

oh crap wrong box..

FreeBSD harley.home 14.0-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE-p5 #0: Tue Feb 13 23:37:36 UTC 2024 root⊙adn:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC amd64

jbo: the host is 14 as above.. the image itself is current as of a few days ago

jbo: well, "it's complicated"

I can just always build newlib as nano and symlink the nano names, but newlib doesn't provide a libc++

I would need to also grab libstdc++ and build that against newlib

jbo: FreeBSD current.home 15.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT #3 main-n268498-161984ade1fa: Fri Feb 23 08:58:24 EST 2024 chrisdavidson⊙ch:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC amd64

that is the image on the host

wow, I want big version numbers too

i am going to ask the ask the weird question; is geom the utility i use to "copy" a partition table

kevans, was that a typo when it comes to libc++ vs. libstdc++ ?

voy4g3r2, you could use gpart-backup/gpart-restore

jbo: they're both a libc++, but libstdc++ is the GCC spelling (maybe there's other differences, I try not to know these things :-))

kevans, that's why I asked - because they are distinct libraries. both of them implement the standard C++ library (plus custom stuff) but they are different libraries :D

kevans, what I mean to say: it's not just different spelling. they are entirely different projects/libs

kevans, what's your current plan for addressing this "issue"? :/

kevans, newlib itself is fine & fun (and I would appreciate the port update if you can already make that happen) but we'd certainly want/need a libstdc++ built against newlib too for that toolchain to be useful when dealing with C++ code

jbo: then i could use my zfs snapshots to just then move the data?

i have had this dang 1tb nvm.e drive in my machine and just delaying moving it to the main drive

voy4g3r2, if you only need to move data and and both source and dest are zfs then use zfs send|recv

hrm.. why does nvm.e drives have a nvme0 and a nda0

errr

because 14.0 got a new driver

jbo: right, I'm guessing there's no value in a libc++ and all of the value in libstdc++

I don't really have a plan yet, if I'm being honest

kevans, exactly, that is why I wanted to clarify earlier - not to be a PITA.

kevans, time to make a plan :>

I think I'd lean towards fetching libstdc++ and building it as part of the newlib build, rather than a new port

kevans, I'd generally agree. because "worst case" a user/consumer of the newlib port simply ends up with a libstdc++ that they don't use.

I was looking around at what linux does, and some distros have a libstdc++-*-newlib package distinct from newlib

kevans, you can always hide it behind an option but not sure if worth the grouble

yeah

and I don't think libstdc++ would add a massive amount of build time either

kevans, I think both are fine. personally, I'd rather have a separate port than an option that is not default-on

presumably it has very few dependencies, but I'm not sure

honestly I probably wouldn't bother with an option, but I guess it depends on how much overhead it adds (dependencies / build time)

kevans, if an option becomes relevant / worth-discussion, I'd opt for a separate port tbh

*nod*

kevans, not sure how much build time matters for a port like this either. it's not a high-freq port and it's almost definitely going to be a leaf port

we'll see how bad it really is, I've never tried building libstdc++ and I don't know how horribly integrated into the GCC build it might be

luckily, you're about to find out

I am counting on you here :D

:-)

(not kidding)

:D

contemplating building just the nano variant of that one as well and providing it under both names

I don't really have a good notion of how bad -Os is vs. -O2

.oO (or was it -Oz in GCC land? grr)

oh, fair point. is that the -*- from the linux land?

nah it's -Os

which is fully because s = size or speed? :D

(it's size)

kevans, I didn't consider that... how do linux packagers handle that?

I think some of them symlink and just build one variant, others run the build twice (one nano, one not nano)

didn't feel like a clear consensus

the nano build is actually not bad; seemed to shave off 10-15k on average

alright, you go do the right thing and tell me when you want me to test :>

*nod*

kevans, I'm doing my part elsewhere: reviews.freebsd.org/D44067

Title: ⚙ D44067 devel/openocd: Overhaul Makefile

it's cycling in my free time with adding ECC support to pkg, whichever sounds more fun usually takes the slot for the night

kevans, definitely the libstdc++ - no question about it :p

see i don't know, i'd really like to escape rsa some day

understandable

but see, I'd really like to use gcc 13 for my cm4 builds .__.

jbo: thanks on the gpart stuff.. painful at first.. but i got the drive "cloned" now to resize and copy

happy to help

and it looks like with the partition table setup, i got my zfs layout so i can use zfs recv

but we shall see

dpaste.org/NQ1oe <--just beautiful

Title: dpaste/NQ1oe (Plain Text)

What was that sysctl that allows use of partition tables which fail the check?

cracauer: that directed towards me?

cracauer: it was some bit in kern.geom.debugflags, no?

voy4g3r2: no, unrelated.

debugflags=0x10, maybe? (see description in geom(4))

cracauer, is always up to no good

this is true

cracauer: ah, i was just playing with sysctl while doing this gpart and geom stuff.. it was just "odd" it came up

man, I need to go re-wire some stuff in our racks tomorrow

I am pushing internal backups over a 1gbps connection while everything else is 10gbs

239.8 GB ETA 0:35:38

q__q

kern.geom.part.check_integrity

kevans: thanks.

Intact partition tables are boring.

well tp-link jetstream omada based poe is loud

ah, sorry

err.. this network stuff.. too many options, information overload

kevans, is bugmeister@ somebody being smart when they choose their handle or is that a legit group?

never mind... the wiki helps...

heh, group :-)

indeed

Title: 277241 – devel/ocaml-camlp4: Upgrade to ocaml 4.14.1

no idea why this is assigned to bugmeister@ tho

is there a way to make man search for manual pages in a specific directory

no idea what happened there

ohh

note the metadata change; it was created in spam

fixed

fixed for real this time, even. for some reason I thought the default assignee was ports@, but alas; no.

nevermind i found it its the -m flag

fsck says "Journal inode removed". Nothing at all is wrong with this disk.

kevans, thanks!

cracauer, I rarely say this / this rarely happens but that line is t-shirt worthy: <cracauer> Intact partition tables are boring.

imo he's got a lot of good material, you just have to stalk him a little bit

I only stalked him on the forum so far. prime dude. saw him on irc the first time yesterday

admittedly i try not to venture onto the forums unless i'm linked to something specific to look at

Is anybody using CBSD?

s2r, yes - and I am dealing with the same thing right now ;)

kevans, it's interesting... I was quite active there the past few years but since I became a committer I notice that I am getting more and more passive there.

jbo, you mean moving vms?

s2r, dealing with "the issue" preventing me from 13.2 -> 14.0 jup.

jbo: ah, that's interesting

i only recently created an account just to necro an old thread

kevans, interestingly, I have made similar observations with others before me

jbo, Now I ran into a bigger problem. I tried exporting with bexport and after that command the VMs are not listed and can not start them. with a simple bls nothing is shown.

kevans, very well :D

every time i'd looked at the forums since i started using freebsd, it felt like the s/n ratio was quite bad

jbo, I ran sudo cbsd bexport jname=ubuntu2 and after that I got an error: Error in ___NCSTART_DATA=1: Unable to fetch vm data from: /usr/jails/jails-system/ubuntu2/local.sqlite and from that moment the VMs are not listed so I can't start them...

kevans, indeed. but I guess it's sort of operating as a "filter" if you know what I mean - so I'm not complaining about that necessarily. Imagine that kind of traffic on the MLs...

yeah

It must be something with a symlink

kevans, as the forum helped me when I was even less experienced than now I try to stick around to "give back".

s2r, that sounds like fun

s2r, did you mess with the paths _before_ you exported?

jbo, I didn't change anything. I thought that exporting would not create any problems.

s2r, that is a reasonable thought to have. I have not encountered that issue before.

s2r, I assume your VMs still exist tho?

s2r, I was a very happy cbsd user the past 8-ish years but I'm starting to "migrate away" slowly. nothing against cbsd or the author (great guy) - maybe it's just me having acquired enough experience to handle things manually.

I opened 28 issues on the CBSD GH page in the last four years :/ (and, to be fair, the author always responded very quickly and provided a decent explanation or solution)

it's just a weird mix between "advanced features" and "silly restrictions" that I seem to run into frequently - but again, that is almost certainly just me.

the author is an extremely patient & helpful guy :)

jbo, it's still there I tried to create a new VM and then use the disk of the troubled VM but bconstruct-tui says that the ip is already used by the old vm. So it's not found when trying to start it but it is found when I try to create a new one.

jbo, yes Oleg is kind.

s2r, does cbsd bls error out or succeed and just not list anything?

jbo, cbsd bls -> Unable to fetch vm data from: /usr/jails/jails-system/ubuntu2/local.sqlite

jbo, but that file exists and has data.

s2r, and the file exists at that location?

s2r, can you do an integrity test on the sqlite db?

jbo, -rw-rw---- 1 cbsd cbsd 69632 Dec 1 08:46 /usr/jails/jails-system/ubuntu2/local.sqlite

Dec 1 ?!?!

jbo, how do an integrity test, I'm afraid of running cbsd initenv

jbo, is it wrong december 1st? It's a production vm nothing changes in the configuration

s2r, cbsd initenv is generally harmless. you should be running that after every cbsd update anyway. but I was suggesting an sqlite3 test (outside of cbsd)

PRAGMA integrity_check or whatever it was

jbo: *nod* that's fair (re: 'giving back')

(5 points for gryffindor if you backup the sqlite file first, s2r)

jbo, after initenv the VM is shown in bls

s2r, awesome

jbo, I already did it.

jbo, but it won't start.

what does it say?

jbo, it was not listed. but it was running....

jbo, with a bstop it stopped, now I will try to start it...

jbo, it worked.... now I can go to sleep... 2am

s2r, glad to hear that!

s2r, 6am here so... lucky you.

jbo, thanks for your help! Goodnight for everybody

o/

happy to help

so regarding the noises this ThinkPad E14 is making at me, is there anything FreeBSD's Intel HD Audio driver could be doing that leaves the sound chip in a malfunctioning state that persists across reboots? I'm a bit confused about how on FreeBSD, the sounds never go away until I cold boot, but when I boot into Linux, the sounds play on that initial boot, but then they seemingly stop for the time being

tm512: that is crazy. what happens if you soft reboot in linux?

also i bought a thinkpad recently. amazing construction

I haven't done extensive testing with Linux. I'm honestly at the point where I'm looking at buying a different laptop, seeing if this seller will honor a return on the E14

due just to the sound issue?

i got a carbon x1. at first i thought there was a battery problem. then I realized it's actually a too-many-processors-problem.

When I did a build task which could be multi-tasked it basically heated up and all the cpus went to 100% and drain the battery by like 20% or something

but as long as i'm just using it for browsing or email the battery is fine

"just" over the sound issue? constantly having to work around the sound not working properly is a big problem. I've also got a strong suspicion that the same root cause is leading to the GPU driver errors I've been getting

like when the audio starts malfunctioning, it makes squealing or buzzing noises at me any time the sound hw gets initialized, including when resuming from suspend, but all audio breaks system-wide. I have to power down, give it a couple minutes to rest, and then do a cold boot in order to get it working again

doesn't seem worth the trouble

to me, it absolutely seems like grounds for returning the laptop for a refund. dunno what's wrong with it or how long it's going to last before its condition degrades further

oh ok, i didn't realize it was to that extent.

but to be honest i've rarely used laptops and I always immediately put freebsd or linux on them.

honestly i wanted a 17" screen but I don't think i was able to find one with the specs i wanted

maybe not the best financial decision but it's 3am so I just went for it. I'll figure out what to do with the ThinkPad E14 later on

bought a ThinkPad T495, one of the mid-tier configurations with a Ryzen 5 PRO, 16GB RAM, 256GB NVMe

cost $180

hmm that does sound like a good deal. did you buy it from lenovo directly or from a 3rd party?

johnjaye: on ebay, from a seller that has pretty good reviews, like >99% positive

same

sounds like you got unlucky then

I think you're misunderstanding. the ThinkPad E14 is the one with issues, the T495 is the one I just ordered, to replace the E14

the E14 was bought on ebay as well, for $150, also from a very reputable seller

right. but i mean I don't see what you could have done better to avoid the problem

one nice thing about this T495 is that it comes with an intel wireless card, supported by iwlwifi, which on FreeBSD seems to have better support than rtw88 that I had on this E14 (rtw88 was broken to the point of causing kernel panics, iirc)

and iwlwifi seems to be where all of the development focus is with these LinuxKPI wireless drivers

johnjaye: but yeah it's a case of "shit happens". I'm a bit skeptical of the refurbisher in the case of this E14 since a screw fell out of the laptop when I opened it up, seemed to just be let loose in the case

I'm wondering if all of this started because they didn't secure a screw well enough, or one dropped into the case unnoticed, and then while it was rattling around in there, it short-circuited something

do the specs normally get so specific you can tell the model of card?

I know from first-hand experience that short-circuits can make computers act in rather bizarre and seemingly inexplicable ways. I was pretty dumb when I first got a multimeter, and had the bright idea to see if I could measure the 5V coming out one of the USB ports on the back of my PC

that mobo was never quite the same after that point

yes i did something similar. random shorts lead to random problems

johnjaye: at least in this case, yes, evidently. the listing says it's a T495 type 20NK, which has an exact spec sheet available. I dunno about direct from Lenovo themselves, but I found zayntek.com/product/20nk000vus-leno…nk-ryzen-5-pro-3500u-2-1-ghz-wi-new

Title: 20NK000VUS -- Lenovo ThinkPad T495 20NK - Ryzen 5 Pro 3500U / 2.1 GHz - Win 10 Pro 64-bit - 16 GB RAM - - ZaynTek

confirms that I'm getting the 1080p IPS panel, and for wifi it has an Intel 9260

oh. ok

I'm trying to get spamassassin running on a FreeBSD server. the rc file is /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd, I assed sa-spamd_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf, but if I try to run service commands against it, I get "/etc/rc.conf: sa-spamd_enable=YES: not found". did I miss something?

s/assed/added/

run "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd rcvar" and see what it says you're actually supposed to put there. probably take the other thing out.

isley: thanks! according to that it needs to be spamd_enable

but the service name is still sa-spamd... that's a little confusing, but so be it

it looks like it's happy now

hi jbo, worse problem now.

jbo, I could start the vm but inside there's data from december... I'm going to have a panic attack..'

jbo, I remember you pointed me in the chat that a date from Dec 1 in local.sqlite. Well i don't know what the vm has old data.

jbo, I do a diff backup daily but the backup directory shows the last backup from 20231202

Is is possible that bhyve starts a VM using a .vhd disk from a snapshot ? I started a VM and the data inside is OLD, it was working fine until midnight that I tried to export the VM using CBSD bexport.

Or maybe the VM (linux ext4) detected errors and rolled back?

s2r: there is a #bhyve channel on this network, they may have better guidance than is possible here

s2r, did you create the vm snapshots via cbsd or manually?

tsundoku, in rc.conf, i guess it should be spamd_enable="YES"

oh missing a scroll ... sorry,

jbo: around?

jbo, the disk file for the vm hasn't got snapshots. Don't know why it reverted to december

jbo, I didn't create any snapshot

jbo, the ones I've got are the ones created by freebsd-update

jbo, this are the snapshots that I have, ubuntu4 is a clone of ubuntu2 it also has old data. dpaste.org/LXK7u

Title: dpaste/LXK7u (Plain Text)

Anyone using sssd to authenticate users in FBSD 14 and Windows AD?

lw, here now, but about to join meetings

jbo: ah, just wanted to say i heard back from Factorio devs and they said they "might" consider supporting more platforms (like freebsd) after the expansion is done. also, ty for libmpeg2 commit

lw, that is awesome! thank you <3

lw, also ty for libmpeg2

lw, the sad (or nice) part is that last time I checked factorio was almost only depending on sdl2 so a native release seems very doable.

i think it needs opengl which means Mesa from ports, i don't know how that works for closed-source software... static link i guess?

iirc it only uses sdl to create the windows to run opengl in

lw, or just dynamically link and dlopen() ?

yeah that might work too

that is how you'd typically do it afaik

has anyone (cough otis cough) upgraded from net-mgmt/unifi7 to net-mgmt/unifi8? are there instructions or notes anywhere? (i checked UPDATING and the ports listing)

oh hi wcarson

hey there lw! :)

wcarson, I went from unifi5 to unifi6 to unif7 and never had problems

Title: UniFi 7 controller on FreeBSD

hm ok, i copied the backup dir just in case, but was wondering if i should do anything else

wcarson, I typically log into the web interface, pull a backup from there, then do the binary upgrade.

and if necessary, restore from backup (again, via the web interface)

lw, gotta run for a meeting now - thanks again for the update!

yeah, that's what i'm doing. wish me luck :D

wcarson: I upgraded from 7 -> 8 with no issue, no additional changes required to prepare

nice

I'm planning on doing a unifi7 to 8 upgrade soonish too

hah well, it seems to have worked, although the auto updating of all my APs at once was surprising. thankfully only a brief outage

jbo, I found that a snapshot is mounted on the directory of the vm. zroot/ROOT/13.2-RELEASE-p5_2023-12-04_162146/ubuntu2 /usr/jails/vm/ubuntu2. If I try to unmount it I get an error pool or dataset is busy. The VM is off,

mine was still on mongodb36, so it was a bit of a procedure to update mongodb to 4.4

huh, I don't recall it auto-updating o_o

It was a while ago when the unifi port switched from 3.6 to 4.4.

MonogoDB doesn't like it when you skip versions when upgrading

kevans: maybe i have an auto update option turned on somewhere

hmm yep, "automate device updates at 3am"

but what if you're still awake at 3am? :-)

an all too frequent occurrence

(turned that feature off!)

maybe that's your sign that you should be in bed, not that updates are all that commonplace

i'm unlikely to have noticed, as i tend to hard wire anything i actually care about hehe

ah, lucky

I haven't gotten up the courage or proper outfit for going into the crawlspace to try and wire stuff up

i think it's ridiculous all these new wifi-only houses they keep building

there's definitely mice, probably lots of spiders, just lots of stuff I'd rather not deal with rubbing all around i

in

just bring a cat with you :D

crawl space seems like a happy place for a brown recluse

yeah that's true

we're in an area with lots and lots of brown recluses, so that's a legitimate concern even

and yeah, wifi-only kind of sucks

from what i've read brown recluses (and black widows) are not aggressive spiders, and you're relatively unlikely to get bitten. i want to say they aren't even strong enough to bite you, without you exerting pressure onto them or something (of course, when you're crawling through their home...)

yeah we have them here as well

my dad got bit like 3 times on his calf

very cavalier about it, too

at first he didn't go to the doctor, not knowing what it was, but then it got pretty ripe so he went in and they gave him antibiotics. then he got bit two more times, but since he knew what it was and still had the medicine, he just followed the same procedure and those healed up just fine

ooof

wcarson: yes, there are instructions in UPDATING, basically 20230310, but I might be more explicit also for unifi7 to unifi8 upgrade

basically, backup, clean install, restore

yeah, ok, that's the process i followed figuring it would be similar :)

although i skipped cleaning out of curiosity, and it maintained my config

it's quiet tonight

jbo: we could change that, but it would just me "complaining" about this dang nvm.e drive and getting it mounted for moving zfs data

voy4g3r2, if you're mounting something you're probably already way off-track. if both are zfs just use zfs send|recv.

see

i have the drive partitioned like the main drive

so i got partitions but do i just do zfs send even if not mounted

1\ zfs doesn't know about partitions

2\ yes

sorry I thought I told you about zfs send|recv already yesterday - I must have been mistaken

you did.. i just assumed i needed to "mount it

so it was my misunderstanding

there shouldn't be anything to mount

if anything, you'd be mounting zfs datasets, but that would happen "afterwards"

so if i have these snapshots.. i shoudl just be able to send them to these partitions.. if i do it right

i think i need to lay these out

Title: dpaste/D8aWO (Plain Text)

you don't zfs send to a partition, you send to another zfs filesystem

i am moving the zroot ones

you don't send/recv partitions. you send/recv to/from zpools

(or technically datasets, I'm not sure about that one)

zfs snapshot pool1/my/filesystem@copy; zfs send pool1/my/filesystem@copy | zfs recv pool2/whatever

so i again made this way to difficult

i setup syncoid and sanoid all that to do remote backups and now i just have to pull them in

after i create a new zpool

jbo: is convention to name the "main" drive zroot? and i really can name it anything i want?

voy4g3r2: I tend towards "tank" or sometimes other Matrix characters.

Oh, root, not pool. Sorry.

i just need to push through this.. i gotta make a /boot mount non-zfs

yeah, i am quite comfortable doing this as non-root stuff.. when i get the root, it is foreign to me

Title: dpaste/c73Wm (Plain Text)

lets try this dd from one area to another.. can't be that hard :)

well i did find out my backup strategy sucks.. i do not even backup /etc

lw, it's time...

backing up /etc and /usr/local/etc is boring. I usually just read the files every couple of weeks to remember what changes I made to default configs - and more importantly: I have grown a habbit of just not changing defaults unless necessary :D

lw, you up?

jbo: yes, but afk for ~10 minutes

lw, I might try to get factorio running under wine now

I decided to just leave work and go home

always a good choice

lw, do I go for the .exe or the .zip from wube?

use the zip, just extract it somewhere

lw, trying to figure out how to install that shader (compiler?) you mentioned but in ultra lazy mode. care to help? :D

jbo: install winetricks, run wintricks, select default wine prefix, install windows components, d3dcompiler_47

If using Poudriere, please make sure your repo is setup to use FreeBSD:14:i386

wat

use wine64, not wine. wine is for 32-bit

(wine64 is what the package actually installs, wine is a wrapper script to use the 32-bit package)

oh sh*t there's even a handbook section on wine

not sure how I ignore that for so long... I have always been using a VM

lw, is there some magic I'm missing to get this working? just running winetricks doesn't give me the GUI, just some warnings and what I pasted here earlier.

lw, termbin.com/bn7f

well that was just stupid... --> termbin.com/purs

jbo: try running 'wine64 winecfg' to create the default wineprefix, then run winetricks

lw, no bueno

lw, 'wine64 winecfg' seems to work. I also added a C:/ drive and it created ~/.wine

winetricks still doing the same thing tho

PEBKAC?

jbo: try deleting wine prefix and restarting... with a 64-bit wineprefix it should say this at startup: warning: You are using a 64-bit WINEPREFIX. Note that many verbs only install 32-bit versions of packages. If you encounter problems, please retest in a clean 32-bit WINEPREFIX before reporting a bug.

lw, seems to work now... :/

lw, do I need to add a C:/ drive under winecfg or is that optional?

shouldn't be needed, just check audio device is correct

and increase dpi if you use a hidpi display

lw it's working .__.

jbo: see you in three weeks :-d

sry I'm busy, ttyl

:p

I guess deathworld preset it is