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kerneldove_, checkpoint, the FreeBSD handbook (the official and current version) is at docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook.

V_PauAmma_V, ty. is there a chapter on performance tuning still that checkpoint was refering to?

No longer, see docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/book/#preface-changes-from4

:(

rtprio, how much is a small amount of memory? 10-20MB?

i.ibb.co/RkdKtvGx/IMG-20260107-193259195.jpg <-- salad 1 (not mine)

wouldn't be worth the effort unless i could save a GB or 2 ram

does anyone here using waterfox and having difficulty with the right click contextual menu

Downloaded something like ~313 packages

Bah

sorry y'all

is there a package for py*-curl_cffi

in freebsd

kerneldove_: not sure how that size of kernel impacted memory usage, didnt save before vs after

is freebsd's low memory handling poor?

even with plenty of swap, it fails and kills processes, and eventually might get completely stuck

machine getting locked up with "swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer:..."

killing processes is intended behaviour under memory pressure, as a means of unlocking the system long enough to disable the offending program

makr, The "swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer" is an error writing to the disk. Are there other error messages in /var/log/messages?

How is your swap configured?

Given that error I think the problem is that the kernel was unable to use the swap that was configured, was still in a low memory condition, and therefore killed processes to continue with the memory that it had available. But it was trying to page out to swap and that produced the error. I think that issue of error writing to swap needs to be pursued first.

there's a 1gb swap partition and a 1gb swapfile

i don't see disk errors in the log

The swapfile... You are using UFS? It's a swapfile on UFS? That should work okay but I would unconfigure the swap file and leave the swap partition and see if the problem persists.

If the swap file is on zfs well that's problematic and definitely would avoid doing that.

Because zfs also uses dynamic memory and a deadlock condition can occur.

yeah UFS

hmm are swap files less reliable?

fwiw it seems linux handles needing to swap better than freebsd but that might be because i run zfs on freebsd

i wish OS's would do whatever macOS does...isn't their code open-source?

my mac with 8 gb ram would continue to run smoothly even while using gigabytes of swap

makr, I think swap files on UFS should be okay. It is just something I would try to debug why you are experiencing "swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer" errors.

makr, No, Apple's MacOS software is not open source. Proprietary.

rwp: they don't release Darwin source anymore?

As I understood it Apple did not publish their source code. But I am probably wrong. I don't do anything with Apple Macs.

I guess they do release the kernel. I guess it is the GUI and graphics and applications which they do not release.

yep

Gotta love nextcloud-php85 giving error message "This version of Nextcloud is not compatible with PHP>=8.5. You are currently running 8.5.1."

hey

i wonder how can I use the new "pkgbase" system with 15.0 on my system I want to upgrade frm 14.3 to 15.0?

I think that upgrading process won't switch from old base management system to the new one?

Hello, I need some help with setting up hikari. I've been following the handbook up to the Wayland section closely, but "seatd-launch hikari -c <path to config>" results in seatd refusing to start.

I'm not sure how to netcat an error message, but will be looking into it

need help with that :

Crash Annotation GraphicsCriticalError: |[0][GFX1-]: RenderCompositorSWGL failed mapping default framebuffer, no dt (t=3.36497) [GFX1-]: RenderCompositorSWGL failed mapping default framebuffer, no dt

[Parent 7876, Main Thread] WARNING: dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set_shortcut: assertion 'gtk_accelerator_valid(key, modifier)' failed: 'glib warning', file /wrkdirs/usr/ports/www/waterfox/work/waterfox-6.6.7/toolkit/xre/nsSigHandlers.cpp:201

(waterfox:7876): LIBDBUSMENU-GTK-CRITICAL **: 04:56:17.793: dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set_shortcut: assertion 'gtk_accelerator_valid(key, modifier)' failed

is there other people outhere experiencing such issue with waterfox or i'm I the only one with this bug ?

titou: it won't switch automatically as both ways are supported for now, there is pkgbasify.lua, not sure if it gets shipped with 15.0 or if you have to download it yourself

You have to download it from github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/pkgbasify

Does anyone know the exact FreeBSD-* package that provides sysrc?

cat5e: bsdconfig

thank you

Hrm, is ${ARCH} not available in the skeleton pkg of a new install?

Ltning: huh, apparently not

nimaje: so to use the pkgbase mechanism I need to reinstall completely FreeBSD ?

titou: upgrade to 15.0 first and then run what vkarlsen linked above

(Because running it on 14.3 is rather buggy)

Or to be more specific, it runs well but the upgrade to 15.0 afterwards is a hassle

The pkgbasify.lua script can do the whole thing in a few minutes. Doesn't take very long.

My round-trip with a reboot on a slow server was ~10 minutes

neat

lts: thanks a lot

chroot /compat/alpine/ xfe

openDisplay: unable to open display :0

how to fix that?

uh. This is the freebsd channel? OFTC has the #alpine channel

wavefunction, Yes this is the #freebsd channel. wiki.freebsd.org/IRC/Channels

wavefunction: questions about running applications under Linux emulation (COMPAT_LINUX) are on-topic here

chroot /compat/alpine/ xfe

openDisplay: unable to open display :0

how to fix that?

hm, do you really want the isolation of a chroot if you want to share the xserver? but that program needs to be able to talk to the xserver so you probably want to nullmount /tmp into that chroot and it needs the $XAUTHORITY file

nimaje: I just exploring all possibilites while learning... jails, chroot, linux compat, podman, etc.

learning how to replicate my linux setup on freebsd.

and is that xfe you are running there via linux compat freshports.org/x11-fm/xfe ?

ivy: My bad.