Macer: It was something to do with the machine not releasing the existing DHCP lease, and coming back up with the drive in a weird state.

If I get an Ethernet to WiFi adapter, would that connection be affected by wiki.freebsd.org/bhyve#Q:_Why_can.2…s_over_a_wireless_host_interface.3F ?

JetpackJackson: what are trying to do ?

the vm is supposed to use the host as a proxy for internet stuff

the host can use WIFI/cable to connect... the vm doesnt need to use wifi

Right but my host only has WiFi and I can't use host WiFi for guest internet

So if I can somehow make the Ethernet adapter show the WiFi connection as a wired one, would it work for VMs?

hernan604: have you updated yet ?

JetpackJackson: wifi protocol (802.11) can't do bridged connections, only NAT, so if you need to have VMs you'll be out of luck on that. Then there's workarounds (which I have not tested) involving virtual interfaces and portforwarding to services on the VM.

Ah. Shucks. At least I can USB tether with my phone for now then, cause that works

Thanks for the explanation

vortexx: Is there something definitive to read about that? Second time I've seen someone asking about this recently and I'd love to find a definitive answer as to why it doesn't work.

what virtualization platform is the guy using?

I can do bridged on wifi iface perfactly fine in vbox

bhyve

virtualbox is a whole different beast

Hi FreeBSD'ers.

hi

i managed to get vm-bhyve and bastille working

but now I forgot what I did to make it work

+

++

interesting how theres an active community in regards to CDE

Trying out 14.3-RELEASE, but struggling to get my AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT to work with amdgpu and X. drm-510-kmod freezes the system on kldload amdgpu and drm-61-kmod results in a kernel panic. I have not used FreeBSD since ~2010, so any pointers are welcome.

Probably what is happening is that the binary kernel module is from ports and it is out of sync with the kernel which is in base. That's a continuing problem with FreeBSD. Recently there has been an effort to produce them more in sync. But those being out of sync sounds like your problem.

Cheers, will dig up build instructions and get cracking.

Quick check, stepping up to 16.0-CURRENT or 15.0-STABLE will likely not help the situation, correct?

I have a system that uses the amd radeon module on 14.3-RELEASE. I have installed drm-61-kmod-6.1.128.1403000_6 and am looking to see the associated version of the radeon module. Because it's working for me.

I heard someone else with the same problem on 15 I think yesterday so no probably won't help.

I have had that problem myself with the radeon module before and that's why I know about it.

Got it. I saw hints about it online, but mostly posts from a few years back and related to them being out of sync close to release.

Building from source is hardly scary though, just requires a wee bit of reading.

i always build drm-kmod from sources

I also think that now by default the FreeBSD-kmods repository is now included and the plan is that it will always be in sync with the current kernel. But sometimes there are build failures.

For example right now chromium failed to build and so isn't available until that build failure is debbugged, fixed, and the net build run completed.

Sometimes switching from Quarterly to Latest works because Latest was able to build when Quarterly failed. And sometimes the reverse. It all depends.

It looks like drm-61-kmod build okay though: freshports.org/graphics/drm-61-kmod

So maybe I have missed the diagnosis and that is not the problem.

Could also be that things are borked for my card in source of course. But I have booted a FreeBSD about a year ago from a live CD on the same machine, so in that case it is a regression.

Will report back after a bit more digging.

My other desktop machine is an HP t740 using the amdgpu raven module and it is 14.3-RELEASE and it is running X okay right now for me.

Looks like that one installed drm-61-kmod-6.1.128.1403000_7 and gpu-firmware-kmod-20241114,1 for reference.

ACK

I was trying to avoid the "works for me" when I have an older installation and you are trying to install fresh. Because one of the things that happen is if it isn't available in the repository but I already have an older version installed then it might work for me with the older version and not on a fresh install.

Such as the chromium problem right now. I have the previous build but the current build of it has failed. freshports.org/www/chromium

But at the same time encourage that it can work because it's working for me. Maybe what I said made some sense. It's too late here. I should crash. Good night all!

TL;DR: FreeBSD 15.0 pkgbase repo signing keys are hosted on AWS KMS controlled by Release Engineering. Backup keys are held by the Security Officer.

that feels a bit surprising

Sweet dreams! Booting into FreeBSD now to get building. Will probably reinstall from scratch just to get everything into a clean state for easier debugging.

No dice and have to handle some other matters. Built from source and I get the same kernel panic, so I suspect this is my specific card having issues rather than being the kernel and kernel module diverging.

hi\

hi

upgrading to 15.0-RELEASE from 14.3 p5 :)

fingers crossed!

what is world/base-dbg world/lib32-dbg ????

I had to drop my laptop memory down to 4GB

I didn't realise firefox uses like 2GB of memory now

I dont even have many tabs open, this is insane

theres already a hefty amount of page swapping

I've found that Firefox memory usage consistently increases. Now, what part of that is page memory leaks and what part of that is Firefox itself, I don't the fuck know. But yea

I haven't checked recently, but I distinctly remember that 3 years or so ago, Firefox would show up in top(1) as using more VM than my computer had RAM+swap.

It always shows up as using hundreds of gigabytes of virtual memory for us.

polarian: firefox definitely chews up virtual memory, `about:memory` has been illuminating for me recently. On a intel lunar lake laptop I have it is solely responsible for pushing disk I/O in a way that slows down the whole machine v_v

Posterdati: those are debug symbols for world/base and world/lib32

I wonder what caused this

polarian, i9xx is shared memory video. . . have you booted that machine with a memtest86 ISO?

s/video/video\ controller

CrtxReavr: I just swapped out the dimm

lol

That fix it?

good chance it could also have been due to out of memory

CrtxReavr: no I mean, this occured within maybe 15 mins of swapping dimms

I took my good set to test another laptop

stuck its 4GB stick into my main laptop

Whenever I see "Fence" in logs, I think of that Red Hat clustering thing.

with firefox open 4GB is not a lot of memory

considering the gpu I assume needs to share a certain amount (not sure how to see how much it uses) I wouldn't be surprised if firefox is starving it

Maybe hit craigslist and find a better laptop? That thing must be old AF.

I daily drive a E6430 flashed with libreboot

with freebsd

xorg

i3

same dotfiles as I have used for many years

issue with older laptops is finding high capacity memory is difficult, and £££

2-4GB dimms are rather cheap, but 8GB are much more expensive, and 16GB are gold dust

I've always found that old memory always costs disproportionally more than newer memory does.

Also harder to trust old (used) memory.

hello

i'm having issues, trying to setup a debian vm with vm-bhyve

i'm probably doing something wrong because i can't get the network working

what did you do

i'm restarting my server, so i can share my cfg files

did you create a bridge with `vm switch` ?

yeah

i tried couple things, like creating and using a vm switch, or using the bridge im currently using for my VNET jails

some info about my current setup

hrm

do packets come onto the bridge (tcpdump) from the vm?

nope

oh, i think its working

yay

i managed a debian install, but there was a grub issue on the reboot. i'm currently trying to install from network opensuse, that was my initial goal

hm. that's odd.. zfs-2.4.0-rc4-FreeBSD_g099f69ff5 (after installing 15.0-RELEASE

did zfs just not make it in time for RELEASE?

cpet: did you ever get orca slicer to build? Trying to build it and got cmake to configure it (using prusa port as a guide) and now it's trying to pull Linux hidapi stuff

Although, I guess I can just install it on my Linux PC

I tried prusa but its very different and relies on x11 so niri can't do it (xwayland crashes in niri on freebsd for some reason) so I would have to try KDE or something but my testing laptop is underpowered

Idk but I did get the media server running with FreeBSD no issue

$ pkg info |grep zfs

FreeBSD-zfs-15.0 ZFS filesystem support

Macer: eh

JetpackJackson: i gave up when I realized will I ever use this and said no

JetpackJackson: :P

Ah

Fair