what's up world

The ceiling.

the firmament

mine is leaking

it rain inside

v01d: nothing much

yeah me too

I mean I did get bhyve working (with help) so that was cool

Also busy IRL too

nice what a rolling on you're bhyve

?

slackware, openbsd, netbsd, windows 11, cachy os, and Solaris

cpet: zup

Slackware?

cpet: hey man

v01d: just arch and alpine so far

nice

I did know Slackware was still up

not

how is alpine

?

It's nice!

Oh I should do a chimera VM so I can keep up on the packages I maintain for them

Is there a way to set a shared folder like in qemu? In my qemu chimera VM I have a folder configured so that I run 'mount -t virtiofs shared chimera' and it mounts my cports repo in ~/shared

man... goguma keep disconnecting itself I have to figure out how to set soju

ircing from your phone I see

cost:: D

cpet: :D

ok wait I'll connect to Weechat on my bsd

well it seem I'll have to stick with my phone for now I have an issue I can't resolve for now cause a service upon wich I depend is currently down

Man going thru old hardware makes me happy and sad at the same time

Like we just dug out these:

But the drivers for them don't exist anymore so the modular parts don't work to switch the mappings :(

Oh.... This would have saved me time earlier: wiki.freebsd.org/bhyve#Q:_Why_can.2…s_over_a_wireless_host_interface.3F

But back to the shared folder thing, is there a way I can configure that for a guest?

virtio_9p

that same page has a howto on how to do that

however works on 15.0

Oh

Oops thank you

I'll try that

what is the repo switch from 14 to 15 to 16 in pkgbase?

repo switch ?

url: "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/base_release_3", what does base_release_3 even mean

or if i'm in pkgbase in 14.3, how do i upgrade to 15

doesnt show a _3

freebsd-update

pkgbage isnt really supported in 14.3

aww nuts

the focus is on 15.0

plus 15.0 is due out on Dec 2nd

so do i fudge the ABI and yolo it

i guess i could roll it back, upgrade to 15 and then pkgbaseify

pkgbase is just freebsd packaged into pkg packages

you really arent missing out in anything that is critical

that cant wait until the release

i know what pkgbase is

you could create a 14 jail

and then use pkgsify in it and see if it "works"

i dont think it will but hey

well, it worked

for 14.3

but what i'm asking is how i update to 15

google is hard isnt it

freebsd-update -r 15.0-RELEASE upgrade

howevr 15.0-RELEASE isnt out yet so

it will remove your system rather than install it

freebsd-update doesn't work in pkgbase, unless some miracle occured yesterday

pkg upgrade

after enabling pkgbase

that doesn't switch to 15

Processing candidates (517 candidates): 100%

Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting)

Your packages are up to date.

pkg -o ABI=FreeBSD:15:amd64 update -f && pkg -o ABI=FreeBSD:15:amd64 upgrade -f

add the bottom line

it's already there jackass, it's _already_ using pkgbase

who the fuck are you calling a jack ass when im the only one here trying to help you

I'm gonna have to try the 9p shares tmrw for my VMS. I'm really liking bhyve. Its so clean and sensible

Uhm I have no comment on the stuff going on right now

...VMS?

what year is it?

hodapp: you can still play with openvms

ssh menu⊙tso

openvms multics

vms

Sorry phone auto capitalization

think BSD is in there as well

s/my VMS/my bhyve virtual machines

cpet: whooooaaaaaa

may be slow as the server has a load of like 64

Oh interesting

I should play around with that tmrw

And maybe a Solaris vm

Idk

Brain likes retro/old computery stuff

Solaris runs slow as hell on x86 HW but you can download it from oracle

runs fine in bhyve

I tried to use 9front as a daily driver

Slash tried to see myself using it daily

Could not

cpet: are these actual running hardware, or emulated?

a few are HW most are emulated

played startrek on openvms. died in one move.

i had a router that ran openvms

man

Is there a such thing as being nostalgic for a time period you weren't alive for?

I feel like going and installing obscure systems in virtual machines now

For me, there is: the Zanclean flood.

JetpackJackson: hell, people are nostalgic for shit that never even happened

Oh

JetpackJackson, I think it is valid. For example look at all of the cooking channels on Youtube for 18th century cooking! That certainly seems valid. And tasty! So why not computing too?

Ah true

That's a great example cause ive been really wanting to get into cooking

Good night all :3

is this general chanel or am i in the wrong one

V_PauAmma_V: what's nostalgic about the Med getting flooded for you?

not on the phone

v01d: this is the channel for talk about, and helping each other with, FreeBSD

yeah i know

why are you telling me this

because you asked ( v01d) is this general chanel or am i in the wrong one

oh yeah forgot this one

yeah i know thanks

if you're looking for general chat you might try #freebsd-social

figure it out

ok

#freebsd-social

LxGHTNxNG, it must have been an awesome sight. (From a safe distance, like several miles inland, and with a heavy-duty noise-reducting headset.

You'd need to be above the to-be coastline of Gibraltar.

Yeah. See above, "several miles inland".

JetpackJackson: dont think you really need justification to do whatever it is you want

Has anyone ever encountered this error: freebsd-update: cannot create /dev/stdout: No such file or directory

Cannot seem to find what's happening here.

is devfs mounted?

yes: devfs on /dev (devfs)

hmm, unmounting fdescfs from /dev/fd fixed the issue

say, is there a need for the 5 second poweroff wait with NVMe? it feels like a kinda spinning-rust kinda measure

cpet: alright

raidz_expansion

i upgraded my pool. now to create a new vdev and see how difficult it will be to expand it

hopefully without ruining it :)

hm. seems like running smartctl -t long <device> will take quite some time for 8TB disks

cmdwatch smartctl -l selftest <device> should be the right way to show the status right?

Hmm the chimera VM crashed right after it started loading the kernel and such via limine... Strange

I'll see if I can find an older ISO that uses GRUB and see if that boots

Urghl. Since an update, suddenly EDITOR for root is set to... I dunno what this contraption is. How do I change it back to vi(m)?

I put it in .profile but doesn't fix it.

Oh, it appears to be "edit".

That's ee

can someone recomend a good slack-client (at the moment I using slack via chrome.. and chrome eating alot of memory)...

nwe: I use weechat so naturally I use wee-slack

oh! can I still use slack with irc??

haha read it wrong :P

read weechat :P

it is weechat lol

^^

github.com/poljar/weechat-matrix-rs <- there's this too for matrix but i never had good luck with the cross signing / encryption with it. not sure if that's all sorted. i kind of gave up on matrix.

maybe time to change from irssi to weechat..

imo weechat is the best console client but sure takes a lot of work to fine tune it

i thought irssi was depcrecated

Then I'll stick to irssi. It was painful enough to come off ircII.

vkarlsen: i miss ircii. it had character :)

Macer: Indeed :)

brb

bylzz: So they finally fixed Wee-Slack again? Last time I used it (last year), Slack decided to break it for whatever reason, and wasn't able to use it ever since.

remiliascarlet: it works for me

woohoo got 9p sharing working with my arch vm! now to find out why my chimera vm doesnt have internet but arch does

hm. wonder if fbsd has gptids pop up right after you rename them. i vaguely remember them not being there if you changed the name

i'm waiting on long smart tests to finish on 4 disks so i can create a 4 disk raidz2 vdev to add to a pool that i'm going to use expansion for until it reaches 12 8TB disks

Oh I just realized I dont necessarily *need* a chimera vm, I can do cports without it

Drat it needs bubblewrap. Guess I'll move the cports into

The arch vm

Sorry sent too early

How do I permit a connection between two FIBs?

as in, I have something listening on a port but it's in FIB 1 and I want traffic which is coming over a FIB 0 interface to be able to reach it

I got borg backup working so I can extract my Linux backup into my BSD system woohoo

nice, but you can directly copy from Linux filesystem, as far as you have ext4 deployed

Yeah I do

Oh neat

Was initially using rsync but it was kinda slow lol. WiFi moment

I'd still like to use borg for backups cause rsync can't handle deletes so Ill have to mount the borg repo after mounting the ext4 drive if I want to access the files directly

Happy that it works though

tk: net.fibs=2 in loader.conf then use pf using rtable

net.fibs is runtime tunable

yeah I already had the fibs configured, just needed the hint about pf

looks like ipfw also has setfib

yes, it has

could also play with setfib

PF has rtable, not setfib

it's the same

Has anyone been able to upgrade an Ubuntu chroot to latest Ubuntu? I'm realizing I need to use linuxulator for GUI apps instead of bhyve

what is difference between ZPOOL and ZFS?

Chip1972: do you mean the lowercase commands?

why would pkg install chromium result in no pkg being found? (standard amd64 latest install)

ridcully: yes

zpool manages the pools and zfs the filesystem on the pools

ridcully: seriously... what is difference? I am studying FBSD for weeks and cant find a place to learn about it.

Chip1972, It appears that chromium failed in the most recent build. That's why it is not available at this moment.

That probably also applies to ungoogled-chromium too. I suggest installing firefox which is available. Try again in a few days. Watch the build for updates.

"ld.lld: error: undefined symbol: __rustc::__rust_alloc_error_handler_should_panic"

Oh we have a build status page

Neato

rwp: thank you

WTF? Latest update of packages has broken mpv? ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libavcodec.so.60: version LIBAVCODEC_60 required by /usr/local/bin/mpv not defined

try: pkg upgrade -f ffmpeg

JetpackJackson: which GUI apps ?

Orca slicer still, wine worked but was really janky

if the bhyve works

why still mess with it ?

or use the one in ports which is known to wokr in FreeBSD

sometimes in the freebsd world you have to just use whats avail

I like iptraf but that is impossible to port to freebsd

but trafshow works just as well

or learn meseon and cmake and port orca slicer

I think orca has stuff that prusa slicer doesn't

I can't run GUI apps in bhyve, sway yells about no GPU

I would port but ill have to wait till I can run bsd on a more powerful machine

getting your webcam to work is easier now than it was

In general or for looking at a printer camera?

a normal logitech web cam

never got into the whole 3d printer thing

i remeber when I was in college and I got an award to finding the most differences and the award was printed using a 3d printer and it looked like utter garbage so never cared much to have one :P

Ah printers are way better now

That could have been reprap era

this was in 2016

Hmm

I guess not then

I mean prints can be awful no matter the machine

You do have to put some care into that

I guess I'll try prusa for now

And hopefully in the future I can dual boot on my nice laptop

Or get a framework

framework has little cpu choices

and its soldered on

right there i closed the tab

Oh

I saw a post on the forum about bsd on the laptops

never cared much for laptops

Oh

i had a mac book pro which was a ncie laptop but never used it

What do you do if you're going to a workplace

i dont work so bleh

heh

Ah

I dont want to use a work laptop for coding if I can help it

Idk I guess I should see what job I get first

if I was ever given a work PC i would either leave it at work or deny it if they have a desktop

Idk of any other laptops that are more repairable

but then agian that mentality is probably the reason why I dont have a job now

heh

Ah

I mean I'd use a work phone for work apps

Idk if I'd code on a work machine though

Idk

kind of why I wouldn't use it

im not attached to technology like most people are

well i got all this to work so I can do homework after turkey day meal

webcam is around 10 years old so could be why it was so easy to setup

Oh nice

what is difference between ZPOOL and ZFS?