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v01d
ah
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v01d
Missing .git at the end
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JetpackJackson
Has anyone used bhyvemgr? Haven't gotten any live isos to boot other than alpine and I'm wondering if its a PEBKAC situation
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Tingo
mariuss: were you upgrading freebsd 14.3 to 15.0 ?
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Tingo
Were you upgrading Freebsd 14.3 to 15.0 ?
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mariuss
Yes! 14.3-p5 to 15.0-RC3
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mariuss
I used Xorg -configure to create a new /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf. However, I now get yet another error: no screens found.
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mariuss
more precisely: open /dev/dri/card0: operation not supported by device
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Tingo
are you on Baremetal or running Freebsd as a VM ?
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mariuss
bare metal. An older HP all-in-one
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Tingo
ok
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mjp
freebsd isnt great as a wifi client let alone an access point, much better to just get proper dedicated hardware like UniFi/OpenWRT supported hardware etc.
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Tingo
back..
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Tingo
are you running Freebsd on VM or on Baremetal ?
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mariuss
bare metal
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Tingo
pastebin.. /etc/rc.conf
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Tingo
and wanted to run Gnome or KDE ?
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mariuss
I think I had KDE installed before the upgrade
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mariuss
Now as far as the pastebin. Let me see how to do this. I'm on a different machine for the chat
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Macer
oh cool RC4 released
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Tingo
pciconf -lv | grep -B4 VGA.
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Macer
hopefully RELEASE is still slated for the 28th :)
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Macer
the RCs sure come fast
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Tingo
and have to check .xinitrc file
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Tingo
# bectl list
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Tingo
and grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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Tingo
mariuss: ok, Good Luck !!
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mariuss
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Macer
hm
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Macer
if i install the samba420 pkg it doesn't remove 416?
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Macer
i'm trying to sort out how you would upgrade version specific packages
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Macer
is there some sort of pkg flag for that?
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Macer
like samba has 416 (deprecated) 419 and 420 but i don't know am i supposed to remove / install or is there a cleaner way of going from 416 to 420?
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mariuss
You have to first do a pkg delete on samba416 and then a pkg install for samba420
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Macer
ah ok. i sure hope something like that doesn't break things. i have it joined to a domain
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Macer
i guess i can probably just use beadm if all else fails rollback?
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Macer
well.. i just threw caution to the wind and did pkg remove samba416;pkg install samba420 and i guess it seems to still work
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Macer
tbf i'm curious why samba is separated like that
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Macer
maybe it should have a plain net/samba pkg that just follows upgrades that aren't major version specific
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Tingo
mariuss: thanks for info.. hmm.. have to verify are these already installed/updated ? # pkg update; pkg upgrade gpu-firmware-kmod drm-kmod xf86-video-ati
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Tingo
and then have to verify that your current user is the part of video or wheel group and which error message you receive on $ startx command
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mariuss
xf86-video-ati was missing. However, that didn't change the error
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Tingo
which error message do you receive on startx command ?
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mariuss
Same as in the gist
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Tingo
# bectl list
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mariuss
Uploaded as a comment to the gist
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JetpackJackson
When I'm asking about bhyve stuff am I interrupting
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Tingo
# xorg -configure
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Tingo
issue is in this line.. i think kld_list="radeonkms" have to trace out more..
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Tingo
pastebin that result of # xorg -configure command..
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mariuss
I ran xorg -configure to fix an earlier error
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mariuss
...
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mariuss
.
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mariuss
Sorry: my armrest!
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mariuss
How do I capture the output from Xorg -configure?
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Tingo
have to check which drivers does it auto choose in section "Device"
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Tingo
it wil create a new file .. vim /root/xorg.conf.new
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mariuss
As I mentioned, I've already done that Also copied the resulting file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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Macer
i always figured xorg was being obsoleted
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Tingo
i also wanted to see after giving xorg -configure command which list does it show under video drivers..
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mariuss
Driver "modestetting"
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JetpackJackson
I think I keep worrying about dual boot stuff and having my future BSD system be ready for a non Linux/BSD centered world if that makes sense
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JetpackJackson
Aka my anxiety
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mariuss
The BusID seems correct "PCI:O:1:0"
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Tingo
only modesetting ? 2nd.. we can change kld_list="radeonkms" into kld_list="amdgpu" in /etc/rc.conf file and reboot
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JetpackJackson
I love FreeBSD so im upset that I can't get these bhyve VMS to work or things like that
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mariuss
Changing kld_list="amdgpu" and rebooting made no difference: same error
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cpet
JetpackJackson: what exactly is wrong with bhyve
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cpet
mariuss: is your card supported ?
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Tingo
or install gnome # pkg install gnome gdm and vim /etc/fstab and proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 and for video/normal user, $ echo "exec gnome-session" > ~/.initrc
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JetpackJackson
cpet: can't get fedora or cachyos live isos to boot (can send error message in a bit) and the alpine one boots but has no internet
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mariuss
cpet: it worked fine this morning under 14.3, before I updated to 14.3-p5 and updated the packages
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cpet
JetpackJackson: find it hard to beleive when I ran slackware, cachyos in bhyve
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JetpackJackson
Idk if its PEBKAC or cause I'm using bhyvemgr or if I have the wrong isos or smth missing in a config file
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cpet
JetpackJackson: you need to copy over the templates and modify them
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JetpackJackson
What templates
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cpet
oh bhyvem,gr is a pos
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JetpackJackson
Oh
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JetpackJackson
I just wanted a gui
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JetpackJackson
And I tried to get vvirt-manager to work with bhyve ans couldnt
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cpet
vm-bhyve comes with templates
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JetpackJackson
So I feel really dumb and upset
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JetpackJackson
Oh
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cpet
you can just edit those and add in graphics=yes to get a VNC
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cpet
and login using tigervnc
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JetpackJackson
Oh
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JetpackJackson
Alright I'll try that
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cpet
or if you have another HD do what I did to get windows to install in a vm and install linux on a seperate HD
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JetpackJackson
I guess if I ever get a framework I could do that
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cpet
since i only need windows for 2 months
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cpet
didint care about installing to a seperate HD as I have like 9 in this machine
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JetpackJackson
Holy cow
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cpet
mariuss: did you install all the firmwares and does the terminal change when you load the driver ?
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JetpackJackson
OK lemme brush my teeth and stuff and then I'll clean up my install (rm bhyvemgr, clean up RC conf) and then see if the stuff works
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cpet
why?
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cpet
bhyvemgr is like 100 megs
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cpet
its 2025 people have like 4tb drives these days
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mariuss
tThe upgrade from 14.3 to 15.0-RC3 installed loads of firmware. I didn't memorize all that was installed.
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cpet
thought you install to 14.3 p5
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cpet
now you updated to 15.0-rc3
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mariuss
Initially 14.3-p5. After sddm failed to load the GUI I was encouraged to update to 15.o-RC
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cpet
so when you do a dmesg
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cpet
do you see your card loaded ?
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cpet
or better yet pciconf -lv
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mariuss
Fortunately, this machine is not my daily driver, just a machine to test the desktop.
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mariuss
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cpet
what does id username say
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mariuss
It lists video
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cpet
do you only have one card ?
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mariuss
Yes, its an all-in-one machine
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cpet
so why are you messing with busid ?
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cpet
pastebin what /var/log/X11.log says
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cpet
Xorg.0.log
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mariuss
I wasn't. Earlier, somehow /etc/X11/xorg.conf was missing, and hence startx could not find it
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cpet
chris@beastie:/tmp % ls /etc/X11/
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cpet
chris@beastie:/tmp %
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cpet
x just works
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cpet
you probably are missing one of the xf86-video-amdgpu
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cpet
that doesnt get install with xorg for some reason
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Tingo
after xorg -configure you have move xorg.conf.new file to /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/xorg.conf .. if it wasn't found..
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cpet
you dont need xorg.conf to get x working
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Tingo
k
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cpet
the onyl thign I have is a custom conf to force X to use my gfx card rather the CPU based one
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cpet
nothing more
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cpet
this has been the case with xorg for a very long time
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cpet
doing xorg -configure isnt even recomended any more
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cpet
Historically, the X.org server was configured with files in /usr/local/etc/X11/. This is still supported for edge cases, but conflicts with dynamic autoconfiguration.
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Tingo
mariuss: did you changed back kld_list="amgpu" to kld_list="radeonkms" in /etc/rc.conf ? btw.. it was working with radeonkms earlier..
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cpet
Do not create configuration for the X.org server in xorg.conf or run Xorg -configure unless automatic configuration fails.
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cpet
straight from handbook
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cpet
now you may add this to xorg.conf.d
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cpet
Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "radeon"
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cpet
EndSection
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cpet
and see if it works
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Tingo
* kld_list="amdgpu"
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cpet
er amdgpu
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cpet
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Tingo
one more thing.. what this command says: # kldload radeonkms
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cpet
if you cant change the wording to use updated drivers
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cpet
really god help you heh
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mariuss
xorg.conf.d?
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cpet
:(
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mariuss
Installing x86-video-amdgpu did change the out for the log file. However, the same error persists.
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Tingo
mariuss: # kldload radeonkms
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mariuss
I did remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
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cpet
what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say
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JetpackJackson
cpet: to make sure configs don't mess up the fresh setup
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cpet
JetpackJackson: they install things to a different place
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mariuss
Yes, I already changed kld_list to "amdgpu"
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mariuss
kldload radeonkms: module already loaded
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Tingo
#kldload amdgpu same message for it as well ?
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mariuss
Yes, same message
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Tingo
$ xorg and then check logs of /var/log/Xorg.0.log .. same messages are showing ?
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Tingo
tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log for more info..
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mariuss
See updated log file in my gist
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cpet
try install xf86-video-ati
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cpet
and remove amdgpu as according to man radeon.4 you card is supported in the radeon driver
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mariuss
xf86-video-ati was already installed
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mariuss
Now setting kld_list to amdgpu doesn't make sense
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cpet
your card is old so
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cpet
2014 old
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cpet
and that error is as simple as your card not being supported
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cpet
so you may have to use the older drm 5.x
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mariuss
How do I do that?
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cpet
drm-515-kmod
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cpet
shoudl remove the older one
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cpet
see if that works
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mariuss
Drat: boot now hangs on Loading kernel modules: radeonkms
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cpet
boot to single then remove radeonkms
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cpet
press space bar when you see the boot menu
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cpet
and at the prompt type in boot -s
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cpet
or select it
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cpet
i dont like to use that boot menu so I remove or disbale it
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JetpackJackson
cpet: OK fedora gets me can't load kernel
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JetpackJackson
Alpine is not doing any thing
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JetpackJackson
Also I have to force kill VM console each time
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cpet
i sware you people really need to learn to show logs, error message or something to work with
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cpet
this vague errors dont do anyone any good
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JetpackJackson
Sorry
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JetpackJackson
I'm sorry
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mariuss
I commented out radeonkms
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cpet
at this point would probably be quicker if I just logged in hah
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cpet
but we all know this is 2003 and that wont happen so
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cpet
isnt*
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mariuss
Lol. It reminds me of an earlier time where I telneted from the local SGI office to my linux box and then on to one od the SGI Indigos in the computer lab.
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JetpackJackson
One sec gotta reboot
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mariuss
I can reboot, but no longer have a kernel video module
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JetpackJackson
cpet: termbin.com/vvpy
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cpet
that doesnt tell me anything
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cpet
cp /usr/local/share/vm-bhyve/*.conf /path/to/vm/dir/.templates
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JetpackJackson
Where are the VMS installed by default
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cpet
go have fun with google
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mariuss
What should kld_list be set to ?
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JetpackJackson
I'm sorry
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JetpackJackson
I'm an idiot
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JetpackJackson
Found it..
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JetpackJackson
I had defined it myself in RC conf
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JetpackJackson
Im sorry
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JetpackJackson
.
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mariuss
Well, amdgpu also hangs the boot with "BIOS signature incorrect"
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JetpackJackson
OK I got garbled text on the console now and I'm not sure what im supposed to do to get tigervnc working for it. I'm tired and my brain is stupid and I need to go to bed and stop yapping here when I need to figure out my problems myself instead of bothering you all when I haven't even read the most basic stuff ever.
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JetpackJackson
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JetpackJackson
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mariuss
I guess I'll end this experiment and get some sleep.
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JetpackJackson
Crap im sorry mariuss
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mariuss
Old computers...
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JetpackJackson
Im sorry
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JetpackJackson
I'm being an idiot in here and ruining everything
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mariuss
Fortunately, my other FreeBSD boxen are servers, w/o this video driver mess.
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JetpackJackson
I have a cat on my lap and I'm trying to relax re: the stress. Im sorry I let it bleed into here. It was stupid
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JetpackJackson
mariuss: oh I see
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LxGHTNxNG
I had amdgpu cause me some gender of kernel panic, on a fork
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v01d
yakubin: the problem is that the repo is read only can't build anything from it
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Tingo
back
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Tingo
mariuss: did you found any solution for it ?
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Tingo
tomorrow will check out this issue again.. :)
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cpet
mariuss: amdgpu if radeonkms hangs
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cpet
JetpackJackson: edit the config file and add in debug=yes
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cpet
and then find out where the vms are located at and read the error from debug.log
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cpet
paste that in pastebin
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cpet
JetpackJackson: vm info vmname should tell you where it's located in
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cpet
i use zfs so I chose to put my vms in beer/vms
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cpet
cause why not name your pool beer
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voy4g3r2
cpet: i always leaned towards brainbank myself.. but beer works
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voy4g3r2
and make the comment.. the only place a wrinkle is good.. is the brain
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cpet
voy4g3r2: tank or beer
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cpet
tank as that is what zfs root was originally named
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cpet
for some reason I dont like zroot
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cpet
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voy4g3r2
yes the sun people were a cheeky bunch
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ek
I only like zroot for FBSD because it's the default so it takes very littler effort if this go awry. No overthinking having to re-examine recommended commands for recovery.
-
ek
Name doesn't matter one bit.
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voy4g3r2
no it does not, just adds personality to the whole situation. my homelab is family members and tattoo themes.. its just a thing
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voy4g3r2
but when i get to generic services, like postgresql.. that is the name of the jails hostname.. because it is simple to remember
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cpet
jail names are jail#
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ek
Fair enough.
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mason
With meetings working, the next thing to tackle here I think will be Steam.
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mason
I'm also kind of itching to convert a system to pkgbase so I can update it to 15. I might give it a try on a sacrificial test system.
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cpet
pkgbase isnt an issue
-
cpet
its when people do weird things when it gets to be an issue
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kenrap
mason: there is a good amount of effort for getting steam working by shkhln
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cpet
wine plays sc1 fine
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v01d
I have base sitting in my phone but I can't build it
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cpet
base sitting in your phone but cant build it
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cpet
last i herd freebsd doesnt work on a mobile phone
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v01d
~/freebsd $ ls COPYRIGHT boot lib mnt rescue sys var base.txz dev libexec net root tmp bin etc media proc sbin usr ~/freebsd $
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v01d
yeah not compatible
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v01d
man that suck!
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cpet
ls doesnt mean anything now a uname -a will
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mason
kenrap: Is that the steam-utils package or whatever it's called? I was thinking of trying it in Wine first, but I'm game for whatever offers a good experience.
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v01d
I know
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mason
linux-steam-utils I guess
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cpet
you cant run much games using that
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kenrap
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mason
Mm, was just reading that.
-
cpet
the whole ecosystem of gaming when steam was a thing
-
cpet
pretty mcuh messed it all up
-
cpet
however the game "I" play work in wine
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cpet
sc2, warcraft 2 etc..
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v01d
would it be fucking nice to have base just like that on your phone mann
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v01d
haha
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cpet
i hate th ecosystem of phone
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v01d
fuck me
-
cpet
the fact that these kids spend more time on there phone
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kenrap
It's possible to get FreeBSD booting on a phone, but as far being able to make calls is another thing.
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cpet
99.9% of the people who call I answer with a fuck do you want and they hang up
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cpet
kenrap: graphene os works fine
-
cpet
if you have a pixel phone
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v01d
qemu I heard but real slow
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kenrap
cpet: great minds think alike. That's what I use on a pixel 9 pro
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cpet
yeah I like my pixel it runs a beta version of 16
-
cpet
and I like that it can use a cli
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v01d
would it possible to wrap the freebsd manpages website
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v01d
to have it like an app
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cpet
yeah
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kenrap
I think mine just upgrade( to 16. I noticed the UI changes, espeically with the icons and battery symbol being more colorful.
-
cpet
not sure why you would want to do that but yeah
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kenrap
*upgraded
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v01d
-
cpet
why would you want to view manpages on a shity 7" screen when you can view it at a higher res
-
v01d
convinience and portability
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cpet
so you have to read man pages on a train ?
-
v01d
yeah
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v01d
and have easy quick ✋ access
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cpet
ssh into a systen and do man x
-
v01d
just like that in your pocket
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cpet
i hate my phone and widh it utter death
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v01d
lol why
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cpet
ill be damned if ill read man pages on it
-
v01d
haha
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v01d
you give it too much importance
-
v01d
its just a portable computer
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cpet
no i dont half the time its tossed on my bed and hidden under the covers
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kenrap
I would only read man pages on my phone if I needed to. Like if my machines were borked in some way and I needed to quickly reference something.
-
cpet
i have a dual monitor setup
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v01d
but why hate it
-
cpet
why in the name of jebs would I use my phone for anything really hah
-
v01d
I like android device
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cpet
im guessing your no where near your 40's or have used a computer in the days when a 14.4 baud modem was the shit
-
v01d
I always liked gadget
-
v01d
When I was a kid a liked gameboy cellphone toy mini game gadget
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cpet
what does that even mean
-
v01d
now you put an android device in my hand I'm like a kid
-
v01d
you can do everything with that
-
v01d
I mean my cellphone is more powerful then my computer
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kenrap
(gameboy would've implied you're at least a millennial)
-
cpet
bull shit it is
-
cpet
you are telling me my pixel 7 is more pwoerful than my ryzen 7 with 64gig of ram
-
cpet
come on now
-
v01d
color and advanced
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cpet
i stopped liking phones when it invaded our lives
-
cpet
social media is garbage
-
cpet
the fact that I can run a cli and ssh into my computer at home is the only real reaosn why I have one
-
cpet
other then that ill be using voip with a suto response that say fuck off
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kenrap
(and when phones are constantly spying and phoning back home your data to whomever)
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cpet
kenrap: thats another issue
-
cpet
and thats pretty much any OS
-
cpet
windows, mac os call home
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cpet
all you have to do is watch using wireshark
-
v01d
people don't know how to use it
-
kenrap
Yeah, telemetry is what's cool these days for mainstream OSes.
-
v01d
and most phones are garbage
-
v01d
I'm talking about the technology in it self
-
v01d
what Google Facebook meta and shit do with it yeah that's bullshit
-
v01d
I'm going to have 1 TB storage 16 gb ram Gos in my pockets real soon
-
v01d
haha
-
cpet
play doom on it
-
v01d
I play conker bad fur day on my Samsung s24
-
kenrap
He can just download a gameboy color emulator and play pokemon gold on it.
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v01d
hahaha
-
v01d
you kill it
-
cpet
i kind of like the idea of playing a game on my 32" LCD's
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cpet
rather a small screen
-
v01d
-
v01d
-
cpet
seeing how most of us dont irc on our phone
-
cpet
i mean at the end of the day it comes down to each there own really
-
cpet
i personally dislike my phone and only have it for personal needs rather anything else
-
cpet
i really should get ride of it and just use voip
-
v01d
I have Weechat installed on my freebsd but it's not set yet
-
v01d
yeah if you don't use it
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v01d
and it as no use for you
-
cpet
i use it as a GPS
-
cpet
old man gets lost need to find my way back
-
cpet
:(
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v01d
🤣
-
v01d
so it's useful for that at least
-
cpet
now my car has a gps but its old
-
cpet
and im not paying 99.99 for the update
-
v01d
man that I hate it the invasion of car with ai sensor bluetooth
-
v01d
garbage computer program
-
cpet
honestly sometimes its easier to just press the onstar button than to deal with gps
-
cpet
remeber than AI is taking our jobs away
-
v01d
Because ai is dumb
-
cpet
its not dumb as all
-
cpet
I have asked AI to help me fix many programming issues
-
v01d
like
-
v01d
?
-
v01d
it can help
-
v01d
but it can't replace us
-
cpet
tell that to IBM, MS, Apple
-
cpet
list goes on
-
v01d
yeah they just feeding their cash bubble
-
cpet
says the person who warships phones
-
v01d
its only data training and algorithm
-
v01d
I don't worship phones
-
cpet
yeah you do
-
v01d
I appreciate the technology for what it is
-
cpet
but you dont appreciate AI
-
v01d
llm too is cool
-
v01d
I use it
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v01d
too
-
cpet
i used AI to fix an issue I was having with my firewall and suricata
-
v01d
that's nice
-
cpet
not really the inner working of suricata is weird
-
v01d
if I compare the help I get with llm and the one I get with a human being, the human being is more efficient given he his competent
-
v01d
I found that to have a solution to a problem with llm can long and painfull
-
v01d
not with humans
-
cpet
seeing how I spend more time blocking AI bot than I Do maintaining my actual web server
-
v01d
also reading documentation made by us is more helpful then asking llm and doing research on DuckDuckGo more quick than asking llm
-
cpet
yes time is always an issue
-
v01d
they are fare from Sentient
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v01d
very very very very far away
-
v01d
lol
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v01d
and the worst of it is the amount of energy they take for so little outcomes for sure they have to sell the moon to the world
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v01d
Basically time is precious for us and is more valued when invested in real actual exchange and real studying
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v01d
asking ai is a waste of time
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cpet
its only a precious as we make it
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v01d
in reality it doesn't worth much
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cpet
the vois isnt worth much
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cpet
void
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v01d
if you compare the actual experience you get
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cpet
its just empty space
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v01d
it doesn't bring much result
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v01d
its not so surprising
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v01d
doesn't have so much capacity for all the power it gets
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cpet
the power
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v01d
and waist
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v01d
if we compare llm with smartphone smartphone is something llm not that much.
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v01d
at least its my view
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cpet
your phone is probably sending more shit to home row than any device
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kerneldove_
respect to freebsd team to have more rc's to make sure 15R is really solid
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kerneldove_
i think sshd in base has a bug. even tho i don't set a banner file, sshaudit.com can detect my OS through a banner. "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_9.9 FreeBSD-20250219"
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kerneldove_
14.3
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carneous
kerneldove_: try ssh -v to your host from anywhere that you allow connections from.
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kerneldove_
what for? obviously something is wrong if that site could tell the host OS no?
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carneous
no
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kerneldove_
why not? how can the site detect im running freebsd?
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carneous
because you let it connect to you sshd.
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carneous
your*
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vkarlsen
kerneldove_: Do you have VersionAddendum set in sshd.conf?
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kerneldove_
why can ssh client detect host OS just because it can connect?
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kerneldove_
no
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kerneldove_
i'll look
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kerneldove_
NICE
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kerneldove_
vkarlsen is today's hero
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JetpackJackson
cpet: OK I'll try that once I'm at the computer. I figured out the location of the VMS yesterday ans was testing VM templates from
github.com/churchers/vm-bhyve/wiki/Supported-Guest-Examples
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JetpackJackson
I just woke up so its gonna be a while
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JetpackJackson
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polarian
I just found an interesting issue
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polarian
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polarian
inside a freebsd jail
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polarian
ifconfig shows no tap interface both on host and jail, and yet it cant be created because it already exists :P
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polarian
somethings gone wrong xD
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voy4g3r2
i was today's years old when i tried zfs send | receive between datasets on the same machine.. and it worked.. wow
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voy4g3r2
polarian: what does a FULL ifconfig display?
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voy4g3r2
i am able to do a ifconfig tap5 create | ifconfig tap5 destroy with no issue. but i also do not have a jail using the tap5
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polarian
voy4g3r2: the full ifconfig doesnt have i
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polarian
it
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polarian
seems I hit an edge case
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polarian
I was bringing the jail up and down
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polarian
I will need to reboot my system
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voy4g3r2
hold up a second
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voy4g3r2
let me paste an example rc.conf
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voy4g3r2
i use cloned_interfaces and bridge stuff.. maybe this will help
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voy4g3r2
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voy4g3r2
this is how i setup tap interface and link my nic and bridge together
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voy4g3r2
in my case, taps are used to support bhyve stuff and i use epair with jails..
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voy4g3r2
i just "leave" the taps available instead of trying to bring up and down with the bhyve.. added too much complexity (my brain hurt) and left it this way
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polarian
voy4g3r2: I know how to do this stuff mate
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polarian
I have done it many times
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polarian
what I am saying is I have ran into an edge case where ifconfig shows no interface, cant delete the interface as it doesn't exist, but cant create it either because it does exist
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voy4g3r2
yes, i have had this issue before.. myself.. and found a resolution which i pasted
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voy4g3r2
but YMMV
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markmcb
anyone experiencing issues with the latest RC4 updates? my previously working machine won't boot and stops early after "Loading splash ok" with no errors indicated
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markmcb
Attempting single user mode gives the same result
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JetpackJackson
cpet: also termbin.com/doaf
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polarian
voy4g3r2: the pastebin just has "up"
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polarian
thats the only diff I see
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markmcb
i booted the RC4 memstick image and manually copied the kernel over. working again. whatever was in the pkgbase kernel update in the last 24 hours has something not quite right
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Chip1972
how to disable IPV6 on NonadBSD
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zip
what manner of problem has you wanting to disable ipv6?
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zip
either way, one of my VMs doesn't seem to have IPv6 by default and the other has `ifconfig_DEFAULT="DHCP inet6 accept_rtadv"` in `rc.conf`, in which case I would expect removing `net6 accept_rtadv` would be a good start
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zip
but it's probably a good idea to explain to us what you're trying to achieve by disabling ipv6 first because it's an odd thing to want to do
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rwp
Agreed. Disabling IPv6 does seem very odd to me.
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rwp
The only routine "disabling" for that which I do is edit /etc/hosts so that localhost is not ::1 because so many things are binding privately to 127.0.0.1 and expect localhost to go there directly and not need to timeout passing through ::1.
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rwp
It has more or less taught me to connect to 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost for those services on machines I have not reconfigured for it. That also works of course.
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cpet
JetpackJackson: try changing the loader to uefi and install bhyve-firmware
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cpet
rwp: you can disable ipv6 by recompiling the kernel without INET6
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cpet
options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols
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cpet
on a running kernel you can use
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cpet
kern.features.inet6: 1
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cpet
changing that to 0
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rwp
cpet, I think you meant that for Chip1972 maybe? I already know that and I don't want to do it. I advocate configuring IPv6.
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rwp
All Internet server systems should have a working IPv6 configuration. Many Internet clients especially mobile phone clients won't get an IPv4 address at all in many places.
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cpet
my ISP doesn't and probably never will
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cpet
so having a ipv6 stack is pretty much useless
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rwp
And in other places if they don't the ISP will have implemented CG-NAT which creates many problems on the server side of things.
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cpet
ive been meaning to setup a he tunnel
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rwp
If you ISP does not configure IPv6 then the machines connected won't have it either and network connectivity will use IPv4 by default without doing anything. But in those cases just don't include any IPv6 configuration in /etc/rc.conf at all and it won't do it.
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cpet
rwp: too each there own
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JetpackJackson
cpet: I did, one sec lemme get another bin
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cpet
JetpackJackson: which OS are you trying to install CachyOS or Fedora?
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JetpackJackson
Both
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cpet
ok
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JetpackJackson
Now I'm trying arch and Debian cause I got those to boot
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JetpackJackson
With no internet
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JetpackJackson
Here are the configs: termbin.com/7ib5
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cpet
remove all the grub stuff
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JetpackJackson
Ok
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JetpackJackson
For both?
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cpet
# vm switch create public # vm switch add public em0
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cpet
and do that to get netwokring working
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JetpackJackson
I have the switch already, should I delete it and recreate it
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cpet
nope
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JetpackJackson
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cpet
ok
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JetpackJackson
Does that look correct
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cpet
ok i got cachyos to boot and install
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JetpackJackson
With internet?
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cpet
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cpet
use that config
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cpet
when you instal use the systemd loader
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cpet
prevents you form having to do all that grub bullshit
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JetpackJackson
Ok
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cpet
use that for fedora as well
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cpet
when doing a vm list you should see VNC is running
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cpet
so you can use tigervnc to install
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cpet
and give the VM some more ram
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cpet
not sure why you need all those
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cpet
but ok
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cpet
i have used cachyos and I find it to be buggy as hell updates breaking your system and such but I guess since this is a VM it doesnt matter
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JetpackJackson
Alright
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JetpackJackson
Cool it seems to be working so far
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cpet
KDE in itself like ram so
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JetpackJackson
Gonna test network
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JetpackJackson
The host machine has 4GB ram
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cpet
my host has 32
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JetpackJackson
Nice
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cpet
the desktop im on now has 64
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JetpackJackson
This an old laptop that I'm tinkering with
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cpet
how old ?
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JetpackJackson
Uhhhh
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JetpackJackson
Lemme dmidecode
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cpet
if the CPU doesnt have the VX-x crap it wont work right
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JetpackJackson
Cause internet searches pull up different models with different specs
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cpet
but I think it will tell you when you try to load the module or run bhyve
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cpet
the old HW i have is a Ryzen 7
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JetpackJackson
Bios says 2019
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JetpackJackson
Ooh nice
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JetpackJackson
My dad just got a ryzen for his new pc
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JetpackJackson
Ok cachy gives me a mouse pointer on a blank screen so
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JetpackJackson
Oh
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JetpackJackson
There it goes
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JetpackJackson
Hi KDE
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JetpackJackson
Will the cachyos template work for Debian too
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cpet
the newest is a intel CPU: 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-13700H
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cpet
should work for most
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cpet
any particula reaosn why you bogging your system with Linux VM's ?
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JetpackJackson
Was testing to see which worked
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JetpackJackson
Guess I just need one
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cpet
they all work fine you just need to mess with the config a bit
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cpet
windows is the only OS that doesnt work well with bhyve
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cpet
but thats due to the need for TPM
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cpet
not that any one really cares any more heh a lot of people are moving away due to that
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JetpackJackson
Was helping my dad with windows 11 and holy cow
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JetpackJackson
So bad
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hodapp
it's obnoxious as fuck
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cpet
i have it cause 1 i have a license and two I like to play old games
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cpet
and you cant play warcraft 2 or sc2 on a PS5
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JetpackJackson
Ah
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JetpackJackson
OK cleaned up the other VMS, running arch with the config you sent
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cpet
hodapp: all that ewaste as well forcing people to buy new systems when the older ones qork just fine for most people
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JetpackJackson
Hmm network is still being weird
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cpet
its wireless ofcourse itsa going to be weird
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hodapp
cpet: that too
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JetpackJackson
Well I would like to find out why internet isnt working in the vm
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JetpackJackson
Should I try tethering my phone and using that for the switch
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cpet
weird and doesnt work are two different things
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JetpackJackson
The interface is up in the vm
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JetpackJackson
But Theres no internet
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cpet
set it up ?
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JetpackJackson
I can't copy and paste in vnc one sec
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JetpackJackson
Is it OK if I send a picture
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cpet
yeap
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JetpackJackson
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cpet
how did you create the switch ?
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JetpackJackson
The two commands you gave but using wlan0
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cpet
try using ping6
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cpet
or ping -6
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JetpackJackson
"Temporary failure in name resolution"
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JetpackJackson
In the vm
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cpet
ok thats DNS issue
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JetpackJackson
Is it resolv.conf time
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cpet
what does /etc/resolv.conf say
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JetpackJackson
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cpet
try changing that to another DNS
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cpet
such as google
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cpet
127.0.0.53 looks like youre using unbound
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cpet
so you would have to add lo0 to the switch to get that to work
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cpet
or just use google
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cpet
since you are using ipv6
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cpet
you would add in nameserver 2001:4860:4860::8888
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cpet
and try to ping again should work
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JetpackJackson
I'll try the lo0 thing cause adding 8.8.8.8 to resolv isnt working
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JetpackJackson
Oh
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JetpackJackson
I'll try that thing
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cpet
any reason why youre installing arch and not cachyos which is basically arch with a better installer ?
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JetpackJackson
Uh idk
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JetpackJackson
Cachy was taking a long time cause its graphical I think
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cpet
cant wait ?
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JetpackJackson
I guess I can
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cpet
i only ask cause the gui installer will setup your network for you
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cpet
just have to wait for it to finish loading
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JetpackJackson
Oh
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JetpackJackson
OK I'll do that then
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cpet
and it uses all the AUR crap and such just like arch does
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JetpackJackson
Ping is giving me name or service not known after I edited the name servers and did dhcpcd
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cpet
dhcp gives you 2 IP's
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JetpackJackson
Hmm I can't add lo0 to the switch
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cpet
you may have to find out which one is actually the one that routes out
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JetpackJackson
Oh
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cpet
and thats on you as you should know your ISP working
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cpet
based on screenshot it adds two IPs and 2 routes
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JetpackJackson
Idk what starlink does other than cgnat crap
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cpet
you live in the middle of no where ?
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JetpackJackson
Yeah
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cpet
i would use viasat than anything owned by Elon
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JetpackJackson
Hmm cachy installer says it can't proceed cause no internet but its connected
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JetpackJackson
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JetpackJackson
cpet:
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dacav
Hi. I think I found a mistake in a manpage: hcreate(3). It says: The hdestroy() function calls free(3) for each comparison key in the search table but not the data item associated with the key.
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dacav
I don't think this is correct
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rwp
dacav, What makes you think that is not correct?
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dacav
I will produce a proof in form of code
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rwp
Before you go to too much work, have you looked at the source code of it? That's one of the best things about BSD is that all of the source is *easily* available and compilable.
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dacav
yes: the code doesn't seem to free keys
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rwp
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dacav
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rwp
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dacav
it frees entries, but not each of them
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dacav
I think the code does the correct thing, and the manpage is wrong
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rwp
Since you have spent the time analyzing this please submit a bug ticket with your understanding of things and a suggestion for corrected wording of the man page. That's the best next step!
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dacav
thank you
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JetpackJackson
cpet: can I DM you the WiFi images? I tethered my phone and added it to the switch but now it's not quite working in a different way
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dacav
-
JetpackJackson
OK I removed the WLAN from the switch and I can ping in the vm
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JetpackJackson
Strange
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JetpackJackson
cpet: it works!!! I have to tether but it works!!
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JetpackJackson
Thank you!
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JetpackJackson