what's the most accurate way to sample the bandwidth rate going through a NIC in and out? i have iftop but i'd like to double check that it's accurate tyvm

wow i just found systat -ifstat. and that comes in every install? it's really nice!

kerneldove_: depending on the driver, there's also a bunch of stuff in sysctl, eg. dev.em.0

What's everyone using for process supervision on FreeBSD these days?

A few times a year dhclient dies and I'm left without internet until i log in and `# service dhclient start igb0`

adavis3: i'd probably switch to a dhcp client that doesn't break. maybe try dhcpcd from ports? this is going to replace dhclient in base eventually anyway

Just to confirm i've got the right one. This one? freshports.org/net/dhcpcd

yes - although i've never actually tried it, i don't have any freebsd system that use dhcp

alternatively, for a service manager, i recently heard a couple of people using runit who seemed happy with it

at an old job we used python's supervisord for everything, which works fine but it does mean bringing in python everywhere

Thanks, I'll take a look. This is for my home router, dhclient dying lead to no internet for the house :/

re service manager. I'll take a look at that too.

i just did a fresh 14.3 install, did freebsd-update fetch/install, rebooted, then on startup saw console message: unbound warning setsockopt so_sndbuf was not granted no buffer space available, so-sndbuf 4194304 was not granted. got 9216. anyone run into that or know wtf?

kerneldove_: I haven't seen that, but I don't run unbound. If you attempt to start unbound after the system boots, does it run?

well it started, it just complained that it didn't get as much buffer space as it wanted i guess

btw is there a way to check if any of the networking buffers are being filled/exceeded?

netstat -m shows mbuf statistics, but i don't think filling up the send/recv queue is tracked anywhere since that's normal

(for example serving any static file over HTTP will probably full the socket sendq, assuming your disk is faster than your network)

ok well i guess i'll just ignore the unbound complaint. dns resolution works *shrug*

your unbound message is not because it's filling the sendq, it's because it requested a larger sendq than is available. i forget how that limit is set by default but i think it's related to system memory size... but 4MB is extremely large for a DNS server

i sometimes use glances

it's a terminal-based activity monitor

if you don't have any local changes to the unbound config, i would consider filing a PR for this, we might want to reduce the default size unbound uses

i have 256GB ram, but 0 swap

it has very detailed stats including buffer

i just tried service unbound restart nowthat box is up and running, same warnings shit out. (but it does restart, and works)

lemme see if my config has anything weird

ya nothing mem or buf or wahtever in the config

kerneldove_: Yup. As ivy suggested, just file a PR about it.

to be clear, the message is harmless, but i think we shouldn't produce errors using a base daemon in the default config

i agree ty

i don't have bugzilla but i'll think about making account

kerneldove_: if you do, you may cc ivy@ and des@ (he is working on unbound in base)

tyvm

adavis: have you looked into *why* your dhcp client fails?

What happened to khard in FreeBSD? vdirsyncer and khal is still available. They all come from the same project and belong together.

what are khard, vdirsyncer and khal?

ivy: calendar, contacts and a tool for syncing the data from like Nextcloud.

oh, are you talking about ports?

deskutils/py-khard still appears to exist

I get zero results when I search for it.

how are you searching for it?

pkg search khard

I would assume that all or none would be there. :)

And not 2 out of 3.

you are probably using quarterly packages, it seems like the port was fixed shortly after 2025Q3 was branched so it's missing in current quarterly: freshports.org/deskutils/py-khard - i assume it will turn up once 2025Q4 build is done

ohh

You can probably tell that I'm new to FreeBSD. ;)

And thanks!'

:)

ivy: i have now packages built. thx

ivy: it was DISTDIR, indeed, unbeknowst it interferring between ports and base

no i have release issue. i did in /usr/src/release make -DNOPORTS -DNODOC -DKERNCONF="GENERIC" release

Hello there, Is there any way to disable Linuxulator logging?

sysctl compat.linux.debug=0

compat.linux.debug: 3 -> 0

isn't?

sysctl -d compat.linux.debug and find out

rtprio: Yeah, I just discovered and applied above

rtprio: Anyway, thank you very much

With a bourne shell, how I can test that the first part of a string matches something? e.g. if [ "14" ~= "$jail" ] - meaning jail starts with 14

dvl: github.com/dylanaraps/pure-sh-bible or github.com/dylanaraps/pure-bash-bible

wavefunction: The first one doesn't mention bourne, but I recognize some of the stuff they talk about. the second one is probably not bourne.

dvl: I usually throw the sucker in a `case` statement, though I don't know where that's the most effective method or not

case "$jail" in 14*) whatever;; *) ;; esac

kevans: Yeah, case is what I'm going with.

bourne shell is posix - to which they suggest "use a case statement"

bourne shell is not posix shell