polarian: i still have stuff at Jump as well

it looks like meta_mode does not work nice with pkgbase and release or rather vice versa

i can reproduce #283679

angry_vincent: please file a separate PR for the pkgbase issue and cc ivy⊙fo

pkgbase is not part of release, so those are probably separate bugs

when i run make release i seeing pkgbase-repo.tar in TARGETS

added in afdc022deb9124e47a8d623417fb487d6ea89862

no idea it is related to the pkgbase itself

yes, release/Makefile builds some pkgbase-related files, but pkgbase itself (i.e., the 'make packages' target) is not part of release

so if make packages fails with meta mode, that's not releated to any bugs in release

related

i will try make packages now

please file a PR with the full log of all make targets you used (not just make packages)

i did not use any targets. but i have /etc/src.conf with some stuff disabled. and i use META_MODE

if you ran "make buildworld packages", then the targets are "buildworld" and "packages". you can't run make in src without any targets

and if you have a custom src.conf, also include that in the PR please

i did run `make packages`

ivy: bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=290010

angry_vincent: can you please include the full output of "make buildworld"? i will try to reproduce the issue here, but having the logs makes it much easier

(that's why i asked for the logs of all targets you used, "buildworld" is a target)

damn someone constantly updates Makefile.inc1 i have patches applied onto eh

:)

ketas: not that often: cgit.freebsd.org/src/log/Makefile.inc1 - but this does contain pkgbase targets which are receiving a lot of updates right now in preparation for 15.0

i wonder why pkgbase didn't all that attention years ago

because we were all very surprised when releng announced it will be the default in 15.0

in my case i have this patch turns src package off if commandef

d

which resulted in FreeBSD Inc. hiring someone to fix bsdinstall, and Colin and i working basically full on time on pkgbase for the last month to get it ready

i did not see existing option

is there one?

no, but patches accepted

called the option WITHOUT_SOURCE_PACKAGES after a short thinking

unsure

or maybe better focus on releases eh

i have already filed few prs with patches that were sitting around 10y or some were recent, were good i heard, one needed work i don't know how to do

ivy: hello

but unsure eh

scottpedia: moin

i am interested in contributing to freebsd cause I have a nice idea to see implementation.

where do you think I should start? ivy

lets see the idea

ketas: you wanna hear about it here?

scottpedia: write the code and put it in bugzilla. if it's a significant change to how the system works, you should ask arch@ first which is where that sort of change is discussed

what's arch@?

scottpedia: lists.freebsd.org/subscription/freebsd-arch

okay alright

thanks man

how likely that my feature may get merged into master?

zero, since we don't have a "master" branch, but i assume you mean main. in which case i have no idea since i don't know what your feature is

is there any sort of screening process? I can assure you my feature is useful but not sure to which extent.

uh, like do we screen contributors to determine if they're worth of contributing? no

okay alright

proposed changes are decided on technical merit, but significant changes to how the system works should be discussed on arch@

what's "technical merit"?

a change which is bad will not be merged

tbh if you have some time I may talk about my proposal with you. is that okay for you now?

again, if you are unsure about whether a change is acceptable, arch@ is the right place to discuss this

okay

but if you want to summarise it here someone might reply

alright

scottpedia: one of my small change is here: bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=283457

still aren't sure either

okay

apparently got over my head

you mind PM? ketas

no

everyone can pm me :p

noone ever does so i don't limit those

but i don't have any other or hidden info for you

you accept one PM and like a week later you're getting marriage proposals

hmm

:p

how many did you get

ivy: you read too much into it my friend

:)

yep, marriage proposals on FreeBSD channel are quite frequent issues

i am not reading anything into anything, i was making a joke

most of us here are of the same sex

and I am not homosexual

i oncd got that proposal as well

not on fbsd channel

had to decline eh

so i guess i could add that patch to bugzilla as well?

makefile one

scottpedia: don't worry, i think there are some guys here too

it's not big arch change

ketas: bro you read my PMs?

ketas: yes, that's fine, you don't need to ask arch@ about that

ivy: what? I implied that most of us here are guys.

i hoped someone would pick it up from current@

wrong idea maybe

scottpedia: oh. speak for yourself, i guess

bugzilla has huge backlog

i often find those

ketas: bugzilla tickets are not processed in order. if you have a simple change which is clearly correct there is a good chance it will committed quickly

ketas: for pkgbase issues, add ivy⊙fo to cc

then i check on top if it'a fixed and often it's not

well yes

importance etc

hi! I'm running makewhatis -p to generate my man page db to use apropos, but I keep seeing that almost everything gives me a name missing in NAME section

am I doing something wrong?

hi guys, im installing freebsd on my desktop for the first time and i desperately cant get the amdgpu driver working

always hangs at boot or kernel panics when loaded manually

is the old drm-510-kmod driver still a good option?

lil_lasagna: I believe it just doesn't like the compressed man pages

cyric: true, all of these pages in question are compressed

so mandoc can read/display those, but makewhatis (which is a hardlink to mandoc) can't for some reason

then idk what to do about it. if pkg installs them compressed and makewhatis does not like them compressed, how does the system usually populate it's mandocdb?

lil_lasagna: or my guess is completely wrong and it's about the symlinks, where the page's name doesn't appear in .Nm

s/symlinks/hardlinks/

e.g. there's uma(9) man page that has '.Nm UMA' and a lot of links to it, all of those seem to be reported

how's 15 shaping up?

Hmm. I can no longer find hyprland on FreeBSD 14.3. Has it been removed?

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oh dang, I'm definitely failing to keep up with development at all anymore.. this is the first I've heard of pkgbase and it's already included in 15-REL

lol. "a call for testing was made in March 2016"

Regarding hyprland, I had to switch to "latest" branch for pkg.

what's the "right" way to add rust as a build dependency to a port: BUILD_DEPENDS= rustc:lang/${RUST_DEFAULT} is ok, if I don't know of any version constraints?

BUILD_DEPENDS+= rust>0:lang/rust

thank you

I saw most ports use sth like: ${RUST_DEFAULT}>=1.35:lang/${RUST_DEFAULT} with some version...

and: RUST_DEFAULT?= rust, in the Mk files

Yesterday I discovered sysutils/lnav, quite nice log file viewer. But I've stumbled upon some bugs which I resolved with upstream. But trying to build the current git HEAD from fails without rust, so the question. The current version in ports is somewhat oldish

Makes a nice IRC log viewer too :), search for messages by a nick, browse by day..

Hi

Look at the vermaden work vermaden.wordpress.com/2021/04/02/ufs-boot-environments

no zfs needed

ibs was hearing good things about hyprland. like it?

Guys

I want some help here

Searching for alot of time, I find that ZFS won't help in anything (just consuming more time)

I will not change the system disk

to ZFS the only option here is to create a pool for only 2 partitions; bec. the other disk is a ntfs, and the third one currently disconnected

I think it will be more better if I just buy a 1TB disk move all data from the third one, and create a ZFS pool there

and as I can see I can get an UFS boot environment..

But why the fsck only runs only on the root partition in boot?

not the others, I need to do it manually

man fstab, search for fs_passno

Ah thank you

It was set to 0

divlamir: should now make it 2?

you choose the order, but 1 is reserved for the root filesystem, so yes, 2 is ok

Oh it's an order

so it should be 3; due to efi takes the num 2

Oh, no dump is set to 0, isn't that eats more space?

Remilia: Might be worth installing a system with ZFS in a VM, or on spare hardware, right from the start, so you can get a feel for what it's like running ZFS.

Mistab. I guess Retrofan is gone.