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mage
hello
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mage
I'll have to integrate freebsd servers with a HPE MSA (HBA based)
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mage
if I have a dual path (2xHBA cards in each server) what should I do on the FreeBSD side for high availability?
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mage
is it enough to use gmultipath?
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martinrame
hi, I created a 14.2 jail and installed linux-c7, now I need to install the package linux-c7-jpeg, but it doesn't exists. It seems to have existed on older versions, but apparently not on 14.2, is there a way to install it?
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Tenkawa
martinrame: If I'm reading this commit right it was removed at least in ports...
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Tenkawa
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Tenkawa
Not sure if that would've impacted 14.2
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martinrame
Mmmm, I started installing linux-c7 because I need wkhtmltopdf, I'll try with debian linuxulator
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Tenkawa
Looks like it was removed back in April
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Tenkawa
ahh its been moved
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martinrame
Tenkawa: moved to where?
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TommyC
re-moved, some might say :D
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Tenkawa
+graphics/linux-c7-jpeg|graphics/linux-c7-imageformats-libs|2025-04-21|Merged into imageformats-libs
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martinrame
great!, installed, now I need libXrender.so.1
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Tenkawa
Yep.. there it was
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Tenkawa
pkg provides libjpeg | grep c7
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Tenkawa
Name : linux-c7-imageformats-libs-1
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Tenkawa
heh
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martinrame
yes!, pkg install pkg install linux-c7-xorg-libs
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martinrame
if I chroot to /compat/linux I can run wkhtmltopdf without issues (at least it doesn't crash), but how can I run it from the freebsd root?
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martinrame
I'm getting: ELF interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 not found, error 2
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martinrame
I have service linux start(ed)
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voy4g3r2
ohh that is so weird martinrame, i am having the same issue with trying to get brave working
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voy4g3r2
and you also have the ld-linux-x86 in the "approrpaite" location in the /compat/linux but without chroot it does not work..
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voy4g3r2
is where my position is and have yet to find a solution, myself
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martinrame
let me see, I remember having posted something related on the FreeBSD forums
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martinrame
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martinrame
But that's for ubuntu compat, not linux-c7
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Tenkawa
Once this compile I'm working on finishes.. linux emu will be next and I'll see if I run into the same..
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Tenkawa
It might be a while though... running a fairly big set of builds
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voy4g3r2
thanks martinrame , i will have to walk through these.. the linux-browser-installer looks to do something similar.. but something is "off" and i have yet to figure out
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Tenkawa
I think I know whats going on but I need to test it
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Tenkawa
Unfortunately this LLVM compile will take a while...
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scoobybejesus_tl
everyone tinkering. I love it
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Tenkawa
scoobybejesus_tl: of course... now that I found an arm64 machine with actual decent power that runs well.... It is time to play....
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mns
Tenkawa: What is the arm64 machine you found that is decent?
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» TommyC is also curious
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Tenkawa
Its the Radxa Orion-O6
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Tenkawa
Its the first higher end ARM64 I'm actually pleased with.
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Tenkawa
Its a 12 core box that just came out.. built around trying for ACPI/UEFI compliance
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Tenkawa
It can use both ACPI or DT but it works much better in ACPI mode.
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ketas
Freaky: what's your uplink
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TommyC
~$200 - $300 (USD) range
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TommyC
not too shabbeh
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Tenkawa
I was lucky... my local Microcenter had a few and couldn't sell them... I got them discounted lol
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TommyC
You got any extras? :3
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Tenkawa
Haahaa no.. 1 is a dedicated Linux build server 1 is for FeeBSD
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Tenkawa
er FreeBSD
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TommyC
Tenkawa: cross compile or is there an arm64 (Linux) distro you're building for?
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Tenkawa
Everything I do with these is for arm... I have a x86_64 server for that native work.
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Tenkawa
Its a 16 thread so it is sufficient for anything I need in that space...
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Tenkawa
Which distributed compiler system is recommended nowadays in FreeBSD? I've been using both distcc and icecc in Linux however have no insight what is recommended for the BSD world currently.
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rtprio
i've used distcc on freebsd but it was quit a while ago now
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Tenkawa
I thought I might start with it and see if it does ok.. I'm thinking at some point I might convert my second O6 to FreeBSD and add it to my compiler pool...
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Tenkawa
So that's why I am pondering.
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Tenkawa
The one unit is working great... 2 would be very interesting to try...
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rtprio
these days most cores seem fast enough to not need to fuck around with that
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Tenkawa
haahaa..
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Tenkawa
but you can never have "too many" can you?
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rtprio
you did you say it was for arm cores? that could make sense
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Tenkawa
my current LLVM compile could certainly use a few more
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rtprio
but it also depends on what you're building i guess
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Tenkawa
10239 src files takes forever on most things....
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Demosthenex
so i keep seeing the debate on pkgbase
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Demosthenex
anyone have a link to a complete design document on pkgbase?
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Demosthenex
wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase but i feel this isn't complete
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Tenkawa
Some of it needs to be reworked into phased steps with prereqs in my opinion reading it... (There's too many assumptions and potential for missed steps)
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rtprio
yolo-ops
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Demosthenex
what bothers me is things like package signing and updates aren't addressed at all yet
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Demosthenex
and... this really should be a separate command that only impacts the freebsd core system
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Demosthenex
i can appreciate they don't want to maintain 2 kinds of build tools
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Tenkawa
Yeah I notice that the unresolved issues section is quite large
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rtprio
they're not signed?
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rtprio
what's the worst that could happen!
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Tenkawa
rtprio: I don't even wamt to think of that lol
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Tenkawa
s/wamt.want
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rtprio
the rest of the packages aren't signed either so :shrug:
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ivy
all packages are signed, both ports and pkgbase
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rtprio
oh good
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ivy
and pkgbase already has built-in support for updates, all re@ has to do is update the source, run make update-packages and put the new packages wherever they like
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kevans
yeah, not sure what's going on there; pkgbase signing has been a thing for years, and the official packages have been signed since they were started afaik
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Demosthenex
then the list of issues on the wiki is out of date
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Demosthenex
that's why i asked if there was a better design document somewhere
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kevans
wiki pages frequently are
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kevans
not really, unfortunately
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» kevans looks at the wiki page, since he hasn't pulled it up since someone removed the helpful diff invocation to find new packages
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Demosthenex
if pkgbase has all the same features as the current installer and updater, plus it gets to use pkg, sounds great. but still should be a separate command
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Tenkawa
pkg signing isn't necessarily the same as pkgbase though is it?
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ivy
Tenkawa: what is the difference?
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kevans
'pkgbase' is the name of the project, update-packages/packages produce repositories
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kevans
those repositories can be signed just like any other normal pkg repo
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Tenkawa
That's why I ask... does it "use" the already existing mechanisms to read/use the pkgs?
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ivy
Demosthenex: there is no need for a separate command. this only came up because someone was surprised that asking pkg to delete all packages, deletes all package. this can be fixed with a trivial update to fix which i will suggest to bapt when he returns
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kevans
yeah, they're more or less normal pkg pkgs
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kevans
base pkgs are slightly different in that their config files are tagged as such so that pkg can do a three-way merge on upgrades
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ivy
s/to fix/to pkg
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Tenkawa
Ah ok.. then yeah I agree they should be the same as well... This implied something a bit diff
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Tenkawa
pkgbase replaces:
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Tenkawa
.txz distribution sets, which are used for installation of the OS with bsdinstall(8)
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Tenkawa
That made me think there might be actual file changes that could change core details
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ivy
the files are identical, the packages are built by running 'make installworld'* and then putting the installed files into packages instead of a single big tar.xz files (* actually make stageworld, but that's basically the same thing)
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Demosthenex
ivy: i value the strong separation between os and third party packages.
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Tenkawa
Demosthenex: same
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Demosthenex
if i do a pkg upgrade, does it do the OS or pkgs, or both?
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Demosthenex
i don't see both as a feature
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ivy
Demosthenex: depends what you ask it to do. if you want to upgrade only the OS, use pkg upgrade -r base
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Demosthenex
even if pkgbase was just a hardlink to pkg, and pkg detected it's name and only worked on the OS, that's fine
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Demosthenex
i really do get that pkg can do these things, i just don't want comingling or accidental inclusion
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Demosthenex
and adding a flag i didn't have to use before, changes the way the command is used
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Demosthenex
so, if i do pkg upgrade, it does both? or just base? or just pkgs?
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ivy
you need one tool that handles both, otherwise you'll have to manually install the base package libraries for every port you install, which gets boring very quickly (i know this as it used to work like this, there were no dependencies from ports to base)
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Demosthenex
i don't argue that pkg install a port could import a dependency from base
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Demosthenex
that's fine
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Demosthenex
i don't mind the idea that pkg maintains both. i'd just suggest we need to keep tooling with the separation
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Demosthenex
if the pkgbase tool only manages system packages, with identical flags to pkg, that sounds great
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Demosthenex
pkgbase upgrade: cool, upgrade the base system
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Demosthenex
that way the scope of pkg upgrade doesn't change, to include things in the base system it didn't do before
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Demosthenex
and something like pkgbase upgrade-all could include pkgs
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scoobybejesus_tl
I get the sense that changes are coming to how pkg is used or is perceived to function. I just hope POLA is weighed heavily.
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kserg
Hi! I can't register on freebsd forum, button "register" do nothing! Have tried firefox, chrome, linux, android. Is there any fix?
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kserg
The problem is recapture not enabled, how to fix it?
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ek
kserg: Do you have javascript allowed? Also, are you waiting to recommended time (countdown) on the registration page?
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ek
kserg: Sounds like you just need to allow javascript.
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zi
kserg: works for me in safari
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zi
and firefox
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kserg
yes, js is allowed
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ek
Looks fine to me as well.
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zi
kserg: you've prolly got extensions, pi-hole or some other thing that is filtering/blocking stuff on you
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kserg
I see the "This site key is not enabled for the invisible captcha." on right bottom corner
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kserg
on every browser i have
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zi
i click register, i see a new windowish thing pop up with a countdown timer and fields for input
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zi
you or your network is doing something to you
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kserg
i have tried VPN, the picture is the same
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kserg
wats may be the problem?
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zi
15.22 < zi> kserg: you've prolly got extensions, pi-hole or some other thing that is filtering/blocking stuff on you
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zi
15.25 < zi> 15.22 < zi> kserg: you've prolly got extensions, pi-hole or some other thing that is filtering/blocking stuff on you
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kserg
how to find this extensions?
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zi
not sure if trolling or not
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zi
heh
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ek
Yeah. Hard to tell.
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Tenkawa
Actually its giving me problems too
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Tenkawa
I'm trying to re-sign up since I haven't used my old account in years and its just hanging on Register
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kserg
have upload the screen
ibb.co/PsWVJYrb
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Tenkawa
Both Chrome and Safari acting up here
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kserg
i have reinstall firefox too
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Tenkawa
yeah thats what its doing here
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ek
Ah. I see it now. Misconfigured invisible reCaptcha.
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Remilia
zi: besides that window there's an error in the bottom right corner
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kserg
is it possible to fix?
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mzar
paywall
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Tenkawa
I saw that but I only have like 1/4 of the window so I got about 5 letters lol
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ek
Likely a bad or expired key or something.
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Tenkawa
mzar: Its not a paywall here I gurantee you...
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kserg
i have the same, but resize the window and scroll it to the right
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ek
Use the "Contact Us" link at the bottom of the page to let them know. That's an error on their end.
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kserg
it also doen not work
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kserg
also because of recapture
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Tenkawa
This is something with the site...
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Tenkawa
& recapture
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Remilia
oh did they rebrand reCaptcha
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ek
I do know that Google is slowly migrating all Captcha stuff to their GCP console thingamajigger. That might be playing a part.
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Remilia
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Tenkawa
Oh fun..
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Tenkawa
ek: This is giving me flashbacks I don't want to think about....
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Remilia
so the contact email is forum-admins@
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ek
That'll be your best bet.
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kserg
excellent idea!
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kserg
thanks, i will try
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ek
Watch FBSD's mail server reject the @gmail.com DKIM signature. Haha
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Tenkawa
kserg: to avoid spamming them let me know when you hear back if I'm online here.
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Tenkawa
I don't want to dupe send them the same breakage...
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kserg
ok
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Tenkawa
Thanks
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CrtxReavr
What is the 'vdso' line?:
bpa.st/V4IA
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ek
CrtxReavr: Virtual Dynamic.
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ek
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CrtxReavr
Interesting.
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CrtxReavr
'Specially because that binary is this tool:
fourmilab.ch/random
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CrtxReavr
Which I had to port & compile myself.
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ek
CrtxReavr: The math/ent port wouldn't work?
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scottpedia
CrtxReavr: John Walker is a legend
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scottpedia
too bad he died recently
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CrtxReavr
Well. . . I guess I was un-aware it was in ports.
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ek
CrtxReavr: Ehh... It happens.
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CrtxReavr
Though it was easy to port.
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CrtxReavr
sed -i'' -e 's/gcc/clang/' Makefile
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ek
Yeah. It's a pretty simply program.