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SponiX
my local unbound session doesn't seem to be logging queries to the place I told it to, any suggestions?
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SponiX
Never mind, I found the solution. I was trying to log outside of its configured chroot directory -- duh
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demido
ok ty ivy
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mtll
heh, having both my ethernet and graphics drivers built from the ports tree is a risky endeavour, I just learned
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mtll
yesterday I did a pkg upgrade
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mtll
turned on my computer to find myself in the console with no internet connection
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mtll
turns out I forgot to rebuild those drivers... had to usb tether via my phone and go do that
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ivy
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Aedil
Greet good.
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LXGHTNXNG
??
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» nwe using freebsd-update -r 14.3-RELEASE for the first time =)
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demido
YAY
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nwe
^^
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nwe
I'm relatively new freebsd user.
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Hecate
yayy
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nwe
stupid question to use freebsd-update -r <release> with custom-kernel , I must first run git pull -> git switch tag/14.3-RELEASE and build new kernel beofre I running freebsd-update right ?
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ivy
nwe: build and install it, and reboot, yes. you also need to update the kernel before the userland
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ivy
s/also/always
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nwe
so build/install kernel, reboot build/install userland? but then I cant use freebsd-update if I using custom-kernel ?
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demido
xlibre port coming soon?
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LXGHTNXNG
1. you could probably make it happen 2. it would seem to be counterproductive given their aggressively stated lack of values?
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demido
huh?
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LXGHTNXNG
you could volunteer yourself to be a porter
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demido
ya i was just asking. you seem to be weird about it tho
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demido
"2. it would seem to be counterproductive given their aggressively stated lack of values?" like wtf? bug fixes and stuff is plenty value
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LXGHTNXNG
I mean the anti-CoC stuff - «we won't turn anyone away» always ends up turning away a subset of competent programmers, who don't want to share space with people who want them dead.
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demido
so stay with your wayland junk
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demido
you just want to control others
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demido
like a nazi
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demido
even fbsd backed off their coc
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LXGHTNXNG
[citation needed]
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demido
noob
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LXGHTNXNG
I was going to go to bed in an hour or two, now I'm thinking of putting on yet another canteenful of coffee.
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LXGHTNXNG
Webchat, hm. What time is it by you, demido ?
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demido
stop obsessing/harassing me weirdo. fbsd is for code that works, simple as. take your paranoid hysterics back to #redhat
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LXGHTNXNG
I didn't come from #redhat, demido.
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LXGHTNXNG
If you would be so kind as to indulge another question, what is your current relationship with the FreeBSD project?
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LXGHTNXNG
The official Porter's Handbook may be found as a long single page at the following URL:
docs.freebsd.org/en/books/porters-handbook/book
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LXGHTNXNG
Someone else who has a better rapport with this person, if you could resend the link to the porter's handbook if it becomes necessary, that might help them a lot.
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demido
i asked when xlibre was going to be in ports. get over it. you don't need to be nitpicking everyone else controlfreak
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demido
lots of ppl, myself included, have been sharing code since before your coc religion existed. stop trying to make it into some life or death bs
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demido
you just come off mentally ill
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LXGHTNXNG
"coc religion" _wat._
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demido
enjoy some of the coffee you brought up for no reason and ask yourself honestly if you haven't actually become the person you hate. you should be better
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LXGHTNXNG
Well that just came out of nowhere.
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LXGHTNXNG
I mean, _technically_ there are a couple of screws loose up here *shakes their head around a bit*, but I fail to see how that's relevant to this discussion. What is your level of interest in working with the ports tree code yourself? By way of a tidbit of friendly advice from a hobby dev: I've actually been hacking around in a copy of the ports tree, at x11-server/xorg-server (this is the port you
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LXGHTNXNG
would copy in order to get started on porting Xlibre as they're similar programmes at this stage) - it's a little hard to understand if you aren't that "up" on how FreeBSD's make(1) utility works. The manpage of that is a bit hard to read sometimes.
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demido
i respect that you're acknowledging that you're broken. now's the important next step to start fixing your shit. you can do it if you really try
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LXGHTNXNG
Not the way you think, young padawan.
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demido
you might be surprised what i know about you
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LXGHTNXNG
You know my dedcated server's IP address, my IRC nickname, and possibly whatever I've published on my website, if you've yet found that. That's it.
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LXGHTNXNG
Prove me wrong.
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the_oz
Are you in a position where you can fulfill your assertion number 2? If not why would you think it?
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LXGHTNXNG
Meanwhile, I don't think I'm going to take advice from someone who called me a control freak two (2) times, a Nazi once, a weirdo, a paranoid hysteric (untrue, and also a shade misogynistic), mentally ill, accused me baselessly of nitpicking, called a trend of having community rules aiming to ensure a developer community can collaborate with less friction, as well as aiming to limit the damage
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LXGHTNXNG
someone with a harmful agenda can do, a "religion", and this sentence got too long for me to close it grammatically correctly.
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LXGHTNXNG
The remainder of this discussion could well be had in #freebsd-social; yes including that about technical aspects of porting.
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bsdbandit
good morning everyone
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bsdbandit
getting my laptop ready for freebsd 14.3 :)
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LXGHTNXNG
good morning bsdbandit !
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LXGHTNXNG
keep us posted on how all that goes! I hope it goes well for you!
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bsdbandit
thank you will do
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tercal
Upgraded from 14.2-RELEASE to 14.3-RELEASE without any issue. Not a huge thing, but it seems /etc/motd (/var/run/motd) is missing under 14.3-RELEASE?
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markmcb
tercal, that is odd. I'm on 14.3 and see both
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ivy
how do i force LDAP clients like ldapsearch to use simple authentication in /usr/local/etc/openldap/ldap.conf? by default they try GSSAPI, which i don't want
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tercal
markmcb: Strange.
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unixman_home
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demido
if i'm on 14.1 what should i run to upgrade to 14.3? i usually do clean installs but i wanna see how well fbsd handles jumping up 2 minor versions at once
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|cos|
demido: Try `man freebsd-update`
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CrtxReavr
demido, properly done minor version upgrades are quite trivial, impact-wise.
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CrtxReavr
Even major version upgrades are pretty painless, so long as you go into it informed.
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CrtxReavr
(Read /usr/src/UPDATING)
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CrtxReavr
Now skipping major versions when upgrading can be a sticky wickit.
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CrtxReavr
Again, it comes down to being informed, and sometimes you need to upgrade incrementally.
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unixman_home
I did an 11.4-RELEASE to 13.3-RELEASE upgrade recently, CrtxReavr. One just has to make sure the edits to the config files are good. I also had to run 'freebsd-update install' twice after reboot. Otherwise it was relatively painless.
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unixman_home
Er, make that 13.5-RELEASE. :D
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jgh
lf_
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jgh
wups, window focus
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quickrr
if you install 14.2 freebsd, fetch/checksum/install base/kernel/lib32/(ports)/... what happens when you upgrade 14.3, how do update ports?
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mzar
quickrr: issue command "pkg update && pkg upgrade"
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unixman_home
quickrr, for ports I use: portsnap fetch && portsnap update
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vkarlsen
quickrr: Do you build ports yourself? If so, which method do you use?
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nwe
why I asking is because my apple macbook air I need to add some
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a12l
I've just installed FreeBSD 14.3 on my old ThinkCentre M900 (Intel i5-6500T). During the installation I choose to install the Intel Skylake kmod driver. After booting into my installed system I run sysrc kld_list+=i915kms, and then kldload i915kms. From the last command I get the error message that it couldn't be found. So I install drm-kmod. In the post-install instruction it says
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a12l
> Please note that this package was built for FreeBSD 14.2.
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a12l
> If this is not your current running version, please rebuild it from ports to prevent panics when loading the module.
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a12l
Someone on the FreeBSD Discord server asked me to increase the prio of the FreeBSD-kmods repo and switch over to latest for that repo. Did that and ran pkg update and pkg upgrade, but nothing got installed.
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a12l
Are I doing something wrong?
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thedaemon
what did you install?
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thedaemon
drm-61-kmod ?
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a12l
no, just drm-kmod
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a12l
I.e. pkg install drm-kmod
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a12l
As it says in the handbook
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a12l
It looks like that if I just install `drm-61-kmod` all my problems go away
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thedaemon
that's what I use
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thedaemon
I actually compile the port, but yeah try the pkg first