01:39:34 my local unbound session doesn't seem to be logging queries to the place I told it to, any suggestions? 02:11:42 Never mind, I found the solution. I was trying to log outside of its configured chroot directory -- duh 03:19:43 ok ty ivy 05:58:24 heh, having both my ethernet and graphics drivers built from the ports tree is a risky endeavour, I just learned 05:58:42 yesterday I did a pkg upgrade 05:58:57 turned on my computer to find myself in the console with no internet connection 05:59:31 turns out I forgot to rebuild those drivers... had to usb tether via my phone and go do that 08:01:31 14.3 is out: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/14.3R/announce/ 08:03:58 Greet good. 08:18:15 ?? 09:33:14 * nwe using freebsd-update -r 14.3-RELEASE for the first time =) 09:43:56 YAY 09:46:26 ^^ 09:47:12 I'm relatively new freebsd user. 09:53:36 yayy 09:57:58 stupid question to use freebsd-update -r with custom-kernel , I must first run git pull -> git switch tag/14.3-RELEASE and build new kernel beofre I running freebsd-update right ? 09:58:26 nwe: build and install it, and reboot, yes. you also need to update the kernel before the userland 09:58:31 s/also/always 10:00:00 so build/install kernel, reboot build/install userland? but then I cant use freebsd-update if I using custom-kernel ? 10:07:41 xlibre port coming soon? 10:08:48 1. you could probably make it happen 2. it would seem to be counterproductive given their aggressively stated lack of values? 10:09:08 huh? 10:11:13 you could volunteer yourself to be a porter 10:11:49 ya i was just asking. you seem to be weird about it tho 10:12:17 "2. it would seem to be counterproductive given their aggressively stated lack of values?" like wtf? bug fixes and stuff is plenty value 10:15:42 I mean the anti-CoC stuff - «we won't turn anyone away» always ends up turning away a subset of competent programmers, who don't want to share space with people who want them dead. 10:16:24 so stay with your wayland junk 10:16:35 you just want to control others 10:16:42 like a nazi 10:17:08 even fbsd backed off their coc 10:17:23 [citation needed] 10:17:29 noob 10:18:53 I was going to go to bed in an hour or two, now I'm thinking of putting on yet another canteenful of coffee. 10:30:44 Webchat, hm. What time is it by you, demido ? 10:31:43 stop obsessing/harassing me weirdo. fbsd is for code that works, simple as. take your paranoid hysterics back to #redhat 10:33:33 I didn't come from #redhat, demido. 10:34:15 If you would be so kind as to indulge another question, what is your current relationship with the FreeBSD project? 10:36:47 The official Porter's Handbook may be found as a long single page at the following URL: https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/porters-handbook/book/ 10:41:46 Someone else who has a better rapport with this person, if you could resend the link to the porter's handbook if it becomes necessary, that might help them a lot. 10:45:53 i asked when xlibre was going to be in ports. get over it. you don't need to be nitpicking everyone else controlfreak 10:46:20 lots of ppl, myself included, have been sharing code since before your coc religion existed. stop trying to make it into some life or death bs 10:46:25 you just come off mentally ill 10:51:03 "coc religion" _wat._ 10:52:03 enjoy some of the coffee you brought up for no reason and ask yourself honestly if you haven't actually become the person you hate. you should be better 10:52:21 Well that just came out of nowhere. 10:52:41 I mean, _technically_ there are a couple of screws loose up here *shakes their head around a bit*, but I fail to see how that's relevant to this discussion. What is your level of interest in working with the ports tree code yourself? By way of a tidbit of friendly advice from a hobby dev: I've actually been hacking around in a copy of the ports tree, at x11-server/xorg-server (this is the port you 10:52:42 would copy in order to get started on porting Xlibre as they're similar programmes at this stage) - it's a little hard to understand if you aren't that "up" on how FreeBSD's make(1) utility works. The manpage of that is a bit hard to read sometimes. 10:53:32 i respect that you're acknowledging that you're broken. now's the important next step to start fixing your shit. you can do it if you really try 10:53:51 Not the way you think, young padawan. 10:55:19 you might be surprised what i know about you 10:55:51 You know my dedcated server's IP address, my IRC nickname, and possibly whatever I've published on my website, if you've yet found that. That's it. 10:55:56 Prove me wrong. 10:57:21 Are you in a position where you can fulfill your assertion number 2? If not why would you think it? 11:01:03 Meanwhile, I don't think I'm going to take advice from someone who called me a control freak two (2) times, a Nazi once, a weirdo, a paranoid hysteric (untrue, and also a shade misogynistic), mentally ill, accused me baselessly of nitpicking, called a trend of having community rules aiming to ensure a developer community can collaborate with less friction, as well as aiming to limit the damage 11:01:05 someone with a harmful agenda can do, a "religion", and this sentence got too long for me to close it grammatically correctly. 11:06:54 The remainder of this discussion could well be had in #freebsd-social; yes including that about technical aspects of porting. 11:23:39 good morning everyone 11:23:53 getting my laptop ready for freebsd 14.3 :) 11:26:06 good morning bsdbandit ! 11:26:21 keep us posted on how all that goes! I hope it goes well for you! 11:29:33 thank you will do 11:41:15 Upgraded from 14.2-RELEASE to 14.3-RELEASE without any issue. Not a huge thing, but it seems /etc/motd (/var/run/motd) is missing under 14.3-RELEASE? 12:37:01 tercal, that is odd. I'm on 14.3 and see both 12:40:40 how do i force LDAP clients like ldapsearch to use simple authentication in /usr/local/etc/openldap/ldap.conf? by default they try GSSAPI, which i don't want 12:49:06 markmcb: Strange. 14:17:03 Er, https://www.freebsd.org/releases/ has a mistype: https://files.eracc.org/uploads/freebsd/Screenshot%20at%202025-06-10%2006-09-52.png Where should I report that? 14:27:55 if i'm on 14.1 what should i run to upgrade to 14.3? i usually do clean installs but i wanna see how well fbsd handles jumping up 2 minor versions at once 14:34:31 <|cos|> demido: Try `man freebsd-update` 14:41:24 demido, properly done minor version upgrades are quite trivial, impact-wise. 14:41:55 Even major version upgrades are pretty painless, so long as you go into it informed. 14:42:19 (Read /usr/src/UPDATING) 14:42:49 Now skipping major versions when upgrading can be a sticky wickit. 14:43:33 Again, it comes down to being informed, and sometimes you need to upgrade incrementally. 15:02:20 I did an 11.4-RELEASE to 13.3-RELEASE upgrade recently, CrtxReavr. One just has to make sure the edits to the config files are good. I also had to run 'freebsd-update install' twice after reboot. Otherwise it was relatively painless. 15:05:02 Er, make that 13.5-RELEASE. :D 15:44:16 lf_ 15:44:32 wups, window focus 17:58:24 if you install 14.2 freebsd, fetch/checksum/install base/kernel/lib32/(ports)/... what happens when you upgrade 14.3, how do update ports? 18:24:40 quickrr: issue command "pkg update && pkg upgrade" 19:02:57 quickrr, for ports I use: portsnap fetch && portsnap update 19:17:02 quickrr: Do you build ports yourself? If so, which method do you use? 19:27:55 why I asking is because my apple macbook air I need to add some 22:56:00 I've just installed FreeBSD 14.3 on my old ThinkCentre M900 (Intel i5-6500T). During the installation I choose to install the Intel Skylake kmod driver. After booting into my installed system I run sysrc kld_list+=i915kms, and then kldload i915kms. From the last command I get the error message that it couldn't be found. So I install drm-kmod. In the post-install instruction it says 22:56:02 > Please note that this package was built for FreeBSD 14.2. 22:56:11 > If this is not your current running version, please rebuild it from ports to prevent panics when loading the module. 22:57:36 Someone on the FreeBSD Discord server asked me to increase the prio of the FreeBSD-kmods repo and switch over to latest for that repo. Did that and ran pkg update and pkg upgrade, but nothing got installed. 22:57:56 Are I doing something wrong? 23:22:48 what did you install? 23:22:52 drm-61-kmod ? 23:31:20 no, just drm-kmod 23:32:11 I.e. pkg install drm-kmod 23:32:22 As it says in the handbook 23:35:29 It looks like that if I just install `drm-61-kmod` all my problems go away 23:42:01 that's what I use 23:42:15 I actually compile the port, but yeah try the pkg first