reported my wlan non-ascii ssid issue as a bug because it seems to be one

I'm trying to set up Wayland on a Libreboot system (libreboot-20241206rev8_x220_8mb_seabios_txtmode). I'm using SeaBIOS in text mode, and the first thing I realize is that on my 16:10 display, FreeBSD only takes about the space for 4:3. I attempted to install Sway and related Wayland software according to the handbook, in addition to mesa-dri, mesa-libs, and drm-kmod. I added kern.vty="vt" in

/boot/loader.conf with no effect. Then I tried kldload i915kms, which caused my screen to flicker for two seconds, then all text disappears and I am left with a black screen with a few rows of semi-random white pixels that respond to my input. Does anyone know how I could begin to debug this?

buy a 4:3 monitor

it's a laptop

and I would like to use it as a laptop

what's the deal with kern.vty?

do you have an intel video card?

Yes

It's a ThinkPad X220i

Intel 2nd Generation Core Procesor Family Integrated Graphics Controller

Update: I was able to get Sway working by blindly typing sway at a broken VTY. VTYs are still completely broken; I suspect kern.vty="vt" is not working somehow

Also, vt(4) says that the GENERIC kernel uses vt when not set

So I suspect that setting kern.vty=vt in loader.conf doesn't make a difference

VT: Driver priority 0 too low. Current 100

fbd0: not attached to vt(4) console; another device has precedence (err=17)

This is suspicuous

how can i get disk info in GB and have it not change to TB? like i don't want to see 3.6TB i want the value in GB like 3,600GB or whatever it would be

Is there something like brightnessctl

that works on wayland?

looks like df -BG does what i want!!

oh that only works on linux damn

maybe it's df -g on freebsd

It seems like pad.bsd.to is down

port options_radio sets only amd64?

how much is the min disk space you'd give a freebsd server not counting applications or user data? basically just OS and swap

i installed freebsd and bare OS takes 1.1GB. then 2GB for swap so that's just over 3GB

leaving some space free so disk isn't full and we're up to 4GB

no building anything, only installing stuff with pkgs

Hello, if any comitter can support I would really appreciate it. It is a matter of love and humanity. To any porters who can support me, I would appreciate it. bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=284389

i guess you can say the letter went to /dev/null

:(

not very funny ring0_starr

Thank you to everyone who can help by supporting.

i don't think it works that way

rtprio I know. But it's an attempt that might be worth it.

demido: there is the GNU version gdf

(i must have gotten it form coreutils)

but you may try sed

df -g works

runxiyu: backlight(8)

the display server doesn't control the brightness, this is something handled by the kernel, backlight(8) is used to interface with the device

Quick question about the performance characteristics of embedding a geom_uzip mfs_root image into the kernel statically. Will the entire image be decompressed once before mounting it as the root filesystem (i.e. with no decompression on any subsequent reads)? Or will it stay in memory compressed and every further read will add CPU overhead?

hrm. i upgraded from 13.2 to 13.4, and now in x11 my windoze key and arrows don't respond as a key chord, but windoze nonarrows does.

Demosthenex: you can go even further and upgrade to 14.2

mzar: yeah, in steps ;]

already had to fix stumpwm and sbcl

seems minor, but super/meta key chording is always weird. didn't change my termtype, setkbd, etc.

how much is the min disk space you'd give a freebsd server not counting applications or user data? basically just OS and swap. i installed freebsd and bare OS takes 1.1GB. then 2GB for swap so that's just over 3GB. leaving some space free so disk isn't full and we're up to 4GB. no building anything, only installing stuff with pkgs

demido: you can always add space later if it's a VM

sure but that's a separate question and no, not a vm

demido: What is the use case?

server

for server you usually assing whole avaliable storage, unless it's multiboot server

assing?

demido: you need to read "FreeBSD ultimate server guide"

url? didn't come up in search

don't know why it's so hard to get some answers to this question from ppl. like ppl don't have experience?

I found one on google search

that didn't talk about minimum practical space for OS

IMHO reasonable minimum space for server nowadays is 500G

why does the OS need 500G?

but your mileage may vary

microserver and nanoserver could be thinner though

mzar so a freebsd install takes 1.1G, so where's the other 498.9G required?

500GB? :O File Server, probably lol

can't be. i already said OS, and not applications or user data, and surely mzar can read

devnull: for mega and giga server you need more

mzar?

?

mzar so a freebsd install takes 1.1G, so where's the other 498.9G required?

for your convenience

why not 500T for my convenience then mzar?

demido: more information you'll find reading hier(7) and FreeBSD wiki

already read them, so i asked here for other opinions. why'd you even bother "answering" if it was just going to be screw off responses?

why not just go about your day? you surely have important things to do with your time

sure, but we are here to socialise and help, aren't we ?

no there's a channel for socializing and this isn't that channel. and it's not helpful to pretend to help but not actually help and just waste time

it's not waste of time, unless we are still alive, if AI gets behind these nicks, we'll be lost

blah blah

demido: have you ever installed any server ?

i ask for min practical server OS install size sans apps and user data and you say 500G, get real

you surely have important things to do with your time, ya surely

demido: To be fair, the question you're asking is also quite broad. Without knowing what you're going to be installing, how much you'll be logging, what data you're going to house, it's not really possible to know.

Why not just call it 5GB total and see what happens?

already said sans user data

That's fine.

to solve demido's problem we'll need some measures and surveys, it could take some time to answer the question "what's the minimum practical space for OS"

demido: maybe you can ask on the mailing list and in the social media ?

to deal with more ppl like you? why bother. i ask a question in #linux and get a dozen thoughtful perspectives. i ask in #freebsd and i get 1 screw off answer by someone with no value on their time

sad tbh

demido: you are lucky, since I have some overdue backups to complete, so I have a while to guide you

typical loser snark

if the answer is know from other channels, there is no need to ask here demido

mzar cool that you take your petty bitterness about life not working out how you wanted out on freebsd users

I've noticed that over the last few years, tools like `service` and `sysrc` and others have grown a -j option, to allow them to run in jails.. I have a bunch of tools that use `jexec` for the same purpose. If they work now, is there any reason to change them? Impending deprecation (!) of jexec for example? Or if it works, don't fix it?

ghoti: there were no talks about jexec(8) depreciation, just -j option is added to more and more utilities for your convenience

demido: I tend to give 40 gigs to my small ones and 500 gigs to more generic ones unless I know more will likely be needed

vkarlsen in what situation does just the OS need 40G?

demido: It does not

so why give 40G to an OS if it doesn't need it?

demido: Take my local resolver as an example; it has 40G, and reports 32.8G free. So sure, I could've given it less than 10G without problem. But it costs me nothing to give it access to more space than it needs. It would cost me (time and hassle) if I had given it 5G, run it full and then have to deal with allocating more. My 40G default is quite arbitrary, it just gives me room to do a number of

things without having to think about space. One ...

... less thing to worry about.

cool

And this is with a vm where it's easy to grow it. Had I purchased a physical 5G medium and run out of space, it would've been an even bigger hassle.

vkarlsen: they left

Oh

I was about to pastebin a df -h from that one. Time saved, I guess

no worries

mzar: jexec depreciation was just an example. The quesion wheher it makes sense to refactor for some reason, for example .. example. Perhaps not; the -j option might be just an added feature, not a recommdation for change.

I'll accept the new convenience if it's not inconvenient. :)

cool

Sigh. I have doggedly hung on to csh/tcsh as my login shell on most systems for something like 30 years. I feel like I'm ready for a change. What to you use? Bash? Zsh? FiSH?

bash and zsh

I'd say bash. . . more practical and less. . .

Well, less. . . ohmyz.sh