pkg upgrade wants to upgrade nvidia-driver nvidia-kmod and nvidia-settings but no nvidia-drm-66-kmod neither nvidia-drm-kmod so if i install ... its gonna break right?

aGaTHoS: ... I don't like how that sounds.

well i just locked these packages, till pkg upgrade really wants to install new version of all of them, weechat updated so gonna quit and reenter :)

aGaTHoS: uname -mvKU

aGaTHoS: uname -mvKU

Also, latest or quarterly?

FreeBSD 15.0-RELEASE-p5 GENERIC amd64 1500068 1500068 and im in latest

Wow 15.0 is already up to patch 5

I'm looking at the pkg-status dashboard to see the build queue. I saw on 15-default that sylve 0.2.2 was built, but 0.2.2 is on the queue again to be built? shouldn't it be 0.2.3?

sylve is not listed (not queued) at <pkg-status.freebsd.org/beefy21/buil…quarterly&build=98f7022e8ee5#queued>.

main-amd64-default for CURRENT lists 0.2.3, <pkg-status.freebsd.org/beefy24/buil…ld=pe46d80fd517c_s306c9049c6#queued>.

ah, I missed it then, was checking beefy23

<pkg-status.freebsd.org/beefy23/buil…4-default&build=e46d80fd517c#queued> also lists 0.2.3.

Sorry, the link to quarterly was n/a

ah-ha, my pkg-status was only showing completed builds

Xinayder: <people.freebsd.org/~grahamperrin/pkg-status> (via <redd.it/102lt8a>), it's outdated but the principle is much the same.

hi

I'm trying to upgrade packages on a FreeBSD server with pkg upgrade. It told me that it founds a new pkg version which needs to be installed first and after it writes that the most recent versions of packages are already installed and it loops indefinitely

is there a solution to get pkg working again

sorry found a solution by removing my local repository and use only the FreeBSD one then pkg succeed to be reinstalled

anyway another question: how to get py-certbot and py-caldav since the first one needs urllib3 and the second urllib3-future?

does ‘timeout’ come already installed on freebsd? and if no, is it in pkg?

i ask here because my freebsd machine is not running right now

GoSox: I believe so

cool that will come in handy

howdy dudes, anyone here, i could use some help ...

i’m here but i don’t know anything

Bushmaster: Ask your question, people will look and answer if they can

thanks vkarlsen i am in the process of configuring SFTP server which harness the 20 GiB storage partition ada0p5 in my case

if anything goes wrong, i may need some help

Bushmaster: Using ssh from base, or from ports, or...what?

ssh and i am not successful

it says connection closed

Anything in the logs?

this is how i declared the path and permissions etc dpaste.com/2EK52W2FU

i think it is something to do with permission because /media/gooncat is mounted partition of /dev/ada0p5

Ok, but check the logs

how to check SFTP log

Look at /var/log/messages and /var/log/auth.log

i think i located the problem, on log, let me pastebin you

line number 9 i think is the problem, i need to rediti the sshd_config with correct path

i think

It would indeed seem so

still problem vkarlsen

Can you verify that /media/gooncat/sftpGoon/bushmaster/ exists?

it does not exist, let me pastebin you what i did in sshd_config file

Oh, ok, did you restart sshd after fixing the config?

which i did, i am sure its something to do with wrong path declaration somwehere

Match Group sftp

ChrootDirectory /media/gooncat/sftpGoon/%u/

X11Forwarding no

AllowTcpForwarding no

ForceCommand internal-sftp

this is what i did in sshd_config

i think i just need to do /media/%u/ right?

because /dev/ada0p5 is mounted on /media/gooncat

The dir has to exist, for starters

this is how I laid out directory structure for my SFTP server dpaste.com/GHN3CCTL4

not sure where i am going wrong

You have /media/gooncat/sftpGoon/uploadDownload on your filesystem, but your config points to /media/gooncat/sftpGoon/<bushmaster>/

and the users should have access to /media/gooncat/sftpGoon? why do you try to confine them to the non-existing /media/gooncat/sftpGoon/<username>/ then?

I put bushmaster in <> because that's what %u will translate to

excellent problem solving skills you have and excellent question, i am kind of new to these, let me think and think

users will only have access to uploadDownlaod directory under sftpGoon

# pw useradd -n bushmaster -d /media/gooncat/sftpGoon -g sftp -s /sbin/nologin

# mkdir -m 0750 /media/gooncat/sftpGoon

# chown root:sftp /media/gooncat/sftpGoon

# mkdir -m 0770 /media/gooncat/sftpGoon/uploadDownload

# chown bushmaster:sftp /media/gooncat/sftpGoon/uploadDownload

then you have to change ChrootDirectory to reflect that

ChrootDirectory, giving me headache and I am lost there

lack of knowledge of path declaration I guess

is this look okay aligning with my directory structure? ChrootDirectory /media/gooncat/sftpGoon/uploadDownload/%u/

No, because that %u at the end will resolve to the username of the user logging in

/media/gooncat/sftpGoon/uploadDownload/%u/ ==> /media/gooncat/sftpGoon/uploadDownload/bushmaster/

You cannot chroot to a directory that does not exist

This is why your auth.log says: stat("/media/gooncat/sftpGoon/bushmaster/"): No such file or directory

your user(s) will only have access to ChrootDirectory and sub-directories of it, so if you don't want that user-specific, then don't add %u in it

you folks have conceptions very clear, and i am struggling to understand the theory

what i do not want is user can access my FreeBSD root system

cannot

i do not want remote user end up accessing my root system

and that is where I am struggling

Is this any clearer: your sshd config points to /media/gooncat/sftpGoon/<USERNAME>. That last part of the path does not exist.

Please let me know if you understand what I'm saying

I have to go eat, will be back a bit later

vkarlsen, i will take a break, and return to change the directory structure, and will message you

vkarlsen, and nimaje thank you so much, you really broadened my conceptual understanding specially with SFTP path declaration

i have finally resolved it, thanks to your brilliant minds

here is the final output dpaste.com/7E7C2SDRX

Bushmaster: Happy to hear that! \o/

few more things I need to do over the coming weeks

i need to configure apache webserver and i want to bring certbot for https if that is even possible

sure it's possible

<billboard.bsd.cafe> delicious

how complex is your apache config? could now be a time to liberate yourself to caddy?

cool rtprio mfisher i have not configured apache in freeBSD, my last project was on Debian 13 but Certbot challenge failed with Debian 13

is there a simple way to run php7 on freebsd?

maybe in a jail?

why php7

becaue i need to run legacy software

it's not going to be simple

that what worries me :[

i can do a jail and pass packets to it i guess

Definitely not "simple". It is doable, though. You'll need to pull an old ports tree repo and build it manually.

It's not terribly difficult. You may run into some gotcha's, though. Some older PHP7 code might not be fetchable.

it's like

every time i tryu to do something in a freebsd jail i meet this wall i cannot breach

maybe freebsd is not for me :[

wsky: Would it be easier or more beneficial to do the same task on another OS?

well

If so, I'd do that. But, I'd also stick with FBSD for other things that it does excel at.

on debian i could debootstrap a legacy debian system in a simple way\

i'm a debianer :[

Fair enough.

freebsd is like stabbing me constantly with the every command i type

If you're familiar with ports, it should just be a simple git command to pull an old tree. Then, just run your "make install" for PHP7. It shouldn't be too bad.

wsky: How so? What issues are you running into?

it's like everything is not right

That's the exact way I feel about Linux. Haha

I'm not bad-mouthing Linux, though. Don't get me wrong. I just never know what to expect or where anything is.

I get lost and then it all starts to feel broken.

when I have to use Windows 11 at work, both Linux and FreeBSD are a huge breath of fresh air

hodapp: I've heard REALLY bad things about Win11. Especially the ad stuff.

Like, even if you pay for a license you still get ads all over the place? Is that true?

ad stuff, Copilot shit, pushing OneDrive & Teams shit everywhere

it's a fucking obnoxious mess

Holy cow! That is definitely something I couldn't deal with. Sorry to hear you've got to. :(

Are Macs an option?

for my work?

Yes

I'd go with a Mac before Windows any day of the week.

sort of but not until they get past some other regularity nonsense

regularity? regulatory.

Bummer.

At one of my old ${JOBS} they would give you a Windows laptop unless you requested a Mac specifically.

And, if you did, you had to fill out all kinds of questionnaires to explain why you needed it.

I had success with FreeBSD as work laptop until Teams came along. Screensharing was the unbeatable boss

lts: Yep. There are some hurdles, for sure.

have never done FreeBSD on a laptop before

Does that work with Linux?

I've done Teams on Linux before, yes

Worked with Linux last I tried. Switched to a Mac a couple years ago

($DAYJOB requires either Mac or Windows nowadays)

we *had* Linux laptops for awhile, System76 ones

i'm pretty sure i've used Teams on FreeBSD via the webapp, but it's been a while since i used it on desktop, so i might be remembering wrong there

It worked fine until you had to share your screen

I had a role which required presenting now and then so it just didn't work. I'm sure it was Microsoft's fault.

it did work on linux -- during COVID lockdown, I threw it into a systemd-nspawn container

ivy: Were you able to screenshare?

I'm actually surprised I've never tried this. I'll have to give it a go.

Very rarely have I ever shared my screen. I usually just have people join my tmux session or something.

Granted, I don't do a lot of work involving point-and-click.

I'd say i gotta try that tmux session sharing thing, but i have practically no friends who use the command line for anything hehe

ek: maybe i didn't try that, i don't do it very often

scoobybejesus: Welp, time for some training! :)

ivy: Samsies. I'm gonna spin up a VM and see if I can get it to work.

anyone knows if nvidia drivers are broken? when doing pkg upgrade it wants to install nvidia-driver nvidia-kmod and nvidia-settings but don't nvidia-drm-kmod and nvidia-drm-66-kmod, lasta time i've got one of these packages with diferent version than other the module failed to load giving a missmatch version, so this time i have locked the packages to be updated until there are new versions for

all of them, is this correct?

I resend my question: how to get py-certbot and py-caldav since the first one needs urllib3 and the second urllib3-future?

i have py311-certbot, what is the problem?

er, to rephrase, what's the problem with urllib3?

rtprio: urllib3 and urllib3-future are mutually exclusive. py-certbot use urllib3 and py-caldav use urllib3-future.. so when I try to install both pkg ask me to remove the other etc.

ah, that's tough

there are other acme clients, if your setup is simple

this situation is quite boring :(

what uses py-caldav ?

a custom application

yeah, use a different acme client, or run one or both of your python utilites inside a virtualenv

:(

the general school of thought is custom apps should not use system packages such as that

aGaTHoS: You can do it that way. I like to build them myself and thus avoid the whole problem. They don't take that long to build.

i use packages not the ports

And that's why you will sometimes run into this problem, because the packages come from different pkg repos that aren't updated synchronically :)

i think its possible to mix packages and ports but i would have to do research first, so i better wait to developers to upgrade the two missing packages

Mixing the nvidia drivers from ports with the rest from pkgs won't cause you any grief

different repos? what do you mean? i only have one repo and one for kmods

The kmod pkg probably came from the kmod repo, and the driver and libs came from the ports repo, and they are not necessarily updated at the same time, causing a version mismatch between them

i think i dont really have any package installed from FreeBSD-ports-kmods, gonna see if i can guess

ok i have one, one of these missing precicely: FreeBSD-ports-kmods drm-66-kmod-6.6.25.1500068_8

ups no, its not the nvidia-drm-66-kmod its just drm...

all the nvidia packages belong to FreeBSD-ports repo

so they just updated 3 of them and not the other 2

The kmods repo contains only a few kernel modules, so it doesn't take long to build the whole thing. The regular ports repos (latest and quarterly) contain every distributable pkg, and take much longer to build. There can be a window of time where their versions are out of sync.

well i will wait