mzar: I'm thinking about doing that, just because I hate to see this 16 Core Xeon with 256G of ram setting idle. Watchiinig code compile is very entertaining LOL

ivy: what is "pkgbase" ?

sponix2ipfw: wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase

hello I am struggling with the file system concept

and was looking for help

I added a block storage to my vps and then I created a gpart created gpt system, then added two drives one for swap 8gb and then one for the media files the balance of the 40gb but that's the extent of my figuring it out

using a book to do this

now I assume there will be mounting and some other configuration possibly

ic I looked it up so I need to now format it, then mount then ...

sixpiece: Oh, cool.. I will update me to 14.2 Beta 3

FreeBSD 14.1-RELEASE releng/14.1-n267679-10e31f0946d8 GENERIC

How do I make it do 14.1-stable instead though?

interesting I am at 14.1

I need help

is there someone that can help me on this?

should I go to the mailing list?

dstolfa: guess it was you I should be thanking ... thanks for the pkgbase heads up

Hi, I had an original zpool with two 1.82Tb disks mirrored. Now I added a new mirrored vdev of the same size, hoping to have an extra 1.82tb available. For a couple of hours I had that space. Then I did send/recv that stopped with an error and now I only see the original (almost empty) space. BTW, this is on a TrueNAS system, but I ask here because the experts live here ;)

It looks like there are some hidden snapshots that didn't finish recv'ed?

lol, they weren't kidding when they talked about knowing how to use boot environments. I went to 14.2 Beta 3 and sure as shit my system didn't boot all the way up into the login manager :P

luckily I did have a BE from when I did freebsd-update to p6 prior. Lost a lot of my installed packages, but at least it left my home and data in tact

Boot Environments Rock!

sixpiece: I was curious about the same thing. if only you were here to see my reply

Hi chat, Is this room the one tied with FreeBSD discord server?

i guess I am not the only one that was bit by 14.2-BETA* installs leaving the OS stuck in single user mode waiting to press enter to fire up /bin/sh after reboot.

U2C97: there's no bridge as far as i know

i dont keep a display connected to servers and the current one doesnt have a vnc console. so i had too drag a display and keyboard over to that and sit there fixing it.. like an animal!

rtprio: The people on discord were talking about FreeBSD IRC, i hope its this room. My country has the amazing idea of entirely blocking discord

this irc channel doesnt have a bot link to any discord server that I am aware of

I suppose ill try to fully migrate to IRC (and other protocols like xmpp, matrix etc.) and drop discord

Also, How is XMPP like? Ive never used it before. the only chat protocols ive used was matrix and IRC

your home country blocked discord entirely?

Yep, turkey has weird stuff going on

I do have knowledge on why they did it, but im not sure its SFW enough to be talked about here

thats a lotta leaves and enters

mrelcee has that been reported? wiki.freebsd.org/action/login/Releng/14.2ISSUES doesn't mention it for example

any menion elsewhere would be good

/12

precisely selected time window, have a nice build

;-)

mrelcee: I can't find any related bugs either. would like to know if this will require fixing in 14.2.-RELEASE

mrelcee I don't see it on a mix of VM & bare metal, uefi and bios going from 14.1R-14.2B3.

dch: ive seen warnings to not attempt to cut steps and reboot where instructions instruct to

esp with 14.2-beta

yeah that would do it. 14.1 -> 14.2 will need to reboot to new kernel and *then* update userland

ive never been bit by skipping that.. this particular server started life on 10.. and has been updated via freebsd-update all the way to 14.1, with tracking the RCs and beta releases since 12.0\

first time in that run where I was left with a machine that wasnt functioning also.

lucky. I've definitely hit this in the past, always the same mistake, not upgrading boot blocks for BIOS boot, or forgetting the uefi loader update.

it reminded me why I need a server that has a vnc KVM. present incarnation is a plain old desktop motherboard with an Intel CORE processor. what was I thinkiing! :)

(as I dragged a kb and monitor over to the server)

mrelcee: you can set up a serial console without firmware support (and a surprising number of desktop systems nowadays also support serial console for the firmware interface, although it's not guaranteed) - at least then you only need a laptop with a USB serial adapter

I have some programs I want to alwasys run on my freebsd box (eggdrop & irssi within tmux). How would you do that? Daemonize them or create cron tasks?

cron is for running things one time at a schedule, not usually ongoing tasks

kids have been asking about running eggdrop on freebsd since the dawn of time

daemons also aren's auto-restarted on any error. You can have crontab on @restart IIRC.

wow, I haven't been called a kid in a few decades

mms: as those as personal services, i would put them in cron with @reboot

mms: there's a tmux option (i can't remember what it is, but it's in the manual) to make it detach on startup, so from cron's perspective it runs and immediately exits

is the reason running under my user?

yes

i feel like i've tried putting tmux in @reboot but don't recall having luck with that

that's a nice thing to have in mind. T.Hanks!

mms: you could use an rc.d script if you want, it's not wrong, but i prefer to keep rc.d for system-wide services

Yeah, that makes sense.

although in the case of eggdrop, assuming it's running under a dedicated account, you could argue that is a system service

It just never occured to me.

It's running in it's own jail

I use cron's @reboot to run at script which starts tmux which starts my IRC programs.

cron starts script. script sets variables and starts tmux. script tells tmux to start irssi IRC client. Works well.

jrtc27: Do you use FreeBSD at all on The RPI? Or does anyone else run it currently on the RPI5? I'm trying to get opinions/recommendations on tuning.

It is running fairly well for me ... just like to tune all I can.

I don't, no

we've done freebsd on a pi cluster in the past for OS teaching

rpi4 I believe

Nod... I'm very pleased so far to see that I only needed to add a RTL88XXAU to get AC wifi on it..

i put in on a rpi1b. it was extremely slow

rtprio: the 5(BCM2712) on a nvme is quite swift now...

dsadas

u guys are all pwned

md5sum -c checksum.md5

How coms freebsd md5 cant even do something so simple

...

Tenkawa: i would believe it

psionic: what are you talking about

what I'm talking about that in linux with md5sum you can read the md5s from a file and check the original files to see they match the checksum or not

fbsd seems to have some crappy md5 in it expect me do them one by one from command line lol

psionic, md5sum -c string file

I need this for fbsd 10.3-STABLE FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE

any chance I can dl the binary from somewhere?

not in the mood of compiling

the_oz: isn't the BSD syntax ie: md5 -c 1edc3944e1323839336a91e91c7137e3 /usr/bin/file

md5sum needs a file doesn't it for reading hashes with -c doesn't it?

bsd vs gnu

I don'

t know

md5 -c 1edc3944e1323839336a91e91c7137e3 /usr/bin/file

MD5 (/usr/bin/file) = 1edc3944e1323839336a91e91c7137e3

yes

md5sum -c 1edc3944e1323839336a91e91c7137e3 /usr/bin/file

md5sum: 1edc3944e1323839336a91e91c7137e3: No such file or directory

if you give it a bad sum you get:

md5 -c 1edc3944e1323839336a91e91c7137f /usr/bin/file

MD5 (/usr/bin/file) = 1edc3944e1323839336a91e91c7137e3 [ Failed ]

usage: md5sum [-bctwz] [files ...]

because -c doesn't take a parameter

md5 does

md5sum on freebsd does not work the same on linux

you could probably install the coreutils to get the gnu version if it's that important to you

ivy: I've actually got some usb to rs232 port devices. Theres an idea... wire up a chunk of cat5 cable to a rs232 port plug and route it next to the ethernet run over to my desk area.

Relevant, mostly: looking to fill a userland developer position: klarasystems.com/careers/freebsd-software-engineer

If one were to read the man page one would see that md5 is the BSD style command and md5sum is the GNU style command. With options that associate each way. Both are available on both systems. Using the appropriate command should yield the expected results.

I don'

damnit

I don't think Linux has md5 and/or FreeBSD got md5sum - there's gmd5sum in coreutils however on FreeBSD

kevans: I had friends forwarding me the link to that job offer

we have md5sum as of late

armin: md5sum is on my debian box

armin: ah, nice. so our reach is reasonable

I have both on my freebsd server.

mrelcee: There's indeed /sbin/md5, good hint, that's the same binary as the md5 program though

mrelcee: looks like hard-linked?

md5sum introduced in 13.1, 14.0+

interesting

md5*, sha*, skein* are all implemented by the same program, mux'd on the name of the link

mux'd :D

big fan of substituting a single letter with a single character