00:11:13 mzar: I'm thinking about doing that, just because I hate to see this 16 Core Xeon with 256G of ram setting idle. Watchiinig code compile is very entertaining LOL 00:11:40 ivy: what is "pkgbase" ? 00:12:24 sponix2ipfw: https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase 00:21:22 hello I am struggling with the file system concept 00:21:26 and was looking for help 00:22:22 I added a block storage to my vps and then I created a gpart created gpt system, then added two drives one for swap 8gb and then one for the media files the balance of the 40gb but that's the extent of my figuring it out 00:22:32 using a book to do this 00:22:52 now I assume there will be mounting and some other configuration possibly 00:24:29 ic I looked it up so I need to now format it, then mount then ... 00:24:46 sixpiece: Oh, cool.. I will update me to 14.2 Beta 3 00:25:14 FreeBSD 14.1-RELEASE releng/14.1-n267679-10e31f0946d8 GENERIC 00:25:17 How do I make it do 14.1-stable instead though? 00:25:18 interesting I am at 14.1 00:27:23 I need help 00:27:29 is there someone that can help me on this? 00:27:38 should I go to the mailing list? 00:27:50 dstolfa: guess it was you I should be thanking ... thanks for the pkgbase heads up 00:29:53 Hi, I had an original zpool with two 1.82Tb disks mirrored. Now I added a new mirrored vdev of the same size, hoping to have an extra 1.82tb available. For a couple of hours I had that space. Then I did send/recv that stopped with an error and now I only see the original (almost empty) space. BTW, this is on a TrueNAS system, but I ask here because the experts live here ;) 00:32:03 It looks like there are some hidden snapshots that didn't finish recv'ed? 02:12:32 lol, they weren't kidding when they talked about knowing how to use boot environments. I went to 14.2 Beta 3 and sure as shit my system didn't boot all the way up into the login manager :P 02:13:13 luckily I did have a BE from when I did freebsd-update to p6 prior. Lost a lot of my installed packages, but at least it left my home and data in tact 03:21:34 Boot Environments Rock! 03:55:23 sixpiece: I was curious about the same thing. if only you were here to see my reply 05:16:45 Hi chat, Is this room the one tied with FreeBSD discord server? 05:23:49 i guess I am not the only one that was bit by 14.2-BETA* installs leaving the OS stuck in single user mode waiting to press enter to fire up /bin/sh after reboot. 05:24:11 U2C97: there's no bridge as far as i know 05:27:50 i dont keep a display connected to servers and the current one doesnt have a vnc console. so i had too drag a display and keyboard over to that and sit there fixing it.. like an animal! 05:29:52 rtprio: The people on discord were talking about FreeBSD IRC, i hope its this room. My country has the amazing idea of entirely blocking discord 05:31:06 this irc channel doesnt have a bot link to any discord server that I am aware of 05:32:40 I suppose ill try to fully migrate to IRC (and other protocols like xmpp, matrix etc.) and drop discord 05:36:17 Also, How is XMPP like? Ive never used it before. the only chat protocols ive used was matrix and IRC 05:37:26 your home country blocked discord entirely? 05:40:09 Yep, turkey has weird stuff going on 05:42:02 I do have knowledge on why they did it, but im not sure its SFW enough to be talked about here 07:09:37 thats a lotta leaves and enters 10:03:23 mrelcee has that been reported? https://wiki.freebsd.org/action/login/Releng/14.2ISSUES doesn't mention it for example 10:03:45 any menion elsewhere would be good 10:06:29 /12 10:08:20 * dch is warming the room up building cmake, rust, clang, and more with poudriere 10:10:56 precisely selected time window, have a nice build 10:14:08 ;-) 10:14:40 mrelcee: I can't find any related bugs either. would like to know if this will require fixing in 14.2.-RELEASE 10:55:47 mrelcee I don't see it on a mix of VM & bare metal, uefi and bios going from 14.1R-14.2B3. 11:18:28 dch: ive seen warnings to not attempt to cut steps and reboot where instructions instruct to 11:18:43 esp with 14.2-beta 11:19:05 yeah that would do it. 14.1 -> 14.2 will need to reboot to new kernel and *then* update userland 11:22:39 ive never been bit by skipping that.. this particular server started life on 10.. and has been updated via freebsd-update all the way to 14.1, with tracking the RCs and beta releases since 12.0\ 11:23:34 first time in that run where I was left with a machine that wasnt functioning also. 11:27:21 lucky. I've definitely hit this in the past, always the same mistake, not upgrading boot blocks for BIOS boot, or forgetting the uefi loader update. 11:31:31 it reminded me why I need a server that has a vnc KVM. present incarnation is a plain old desktop motherboard with an Intel CORE processor. what was I thinkiing! :) 11:33:30 (as I dragged a kb and monitor over to the server) 13:24:46 mrelcee: you can set up a serial console without firmware support (and a surprising number of desktop systems nowadays also support serial console for the firmware interface, although it's not guaranteed) - at least then you only need a laptop with a USB serial adapter 13:40:43 I have some programs I want to alwasys run on my freebsd box (eggdrop & irssi within tmux). How would you do that? Daemonize them or create cron tasks? 13:43:05 cron is for running things one time at a schedule, not usually ongoing tasks 13:43:31 kids have been asking about running eggdrop on freebsd since the dawn of time 13:43:44 daemons also aren's auto-restarted on any error. You can have crontab on @restart IIRC. 13:44:05 wow, I haven't been called a kid in a few decades 13:44:19 * mms blushing 13:44:23 mms: as those as personal services, i would put them in cron with @reboot 13:44:49 mms: there's a tmux option (i can't remember what it is, but it's in the manual) to make it detach on startup, so from cron's perspective it runs and immediately exits 13:44:50 is the reason running under my user? 13:45:36 yes 13:45:47 i feel like i've tried putting tmux in @reboot but don't recall having luck with that 13:46:02 that's a nice thing to have in mind. T.Hanks! 13:46:15 mms: you could use an rc.d script if you want, it's not wrong, but i prefer to keep rc.d for system-wide services 13:46:32 Yeah, that makes sense. 13:46:40 although in the case of eggdrop, assuming it's running under a dedicated account, you could argue that is a system service 13:46:55 It just never occured to me. 13:47:00 It's running in it's own jail 17:11:45 I use cron's @reboot to run at script which starts tmux which starts my IRC programs. 17:11:48 cron starts script. script sets variables and starts tmux. script tells tmux to start irssi IRC client. Works well. 17:23:38 jrtc27: Do you use FreeBSD at all on The RPI? Or does anyone else run it currently on the RPI5? I'm trying to get opinions/recommendations on tuning. 17:24:30 It is running fairly well for me ... just like to tune all I can. 17:29:13 I don't, no 17:29:31 we've done freebsd on a pi cluster in the past for OS teaching 17:29:45 rpi4 I believe 17:33:24 Nod... I'm very pleased so far to see that I only needed to add a RTL88XXAU to get AC wifi on it.. 17:34:08 i put in on a rpi1b. it was extremely slow 17:34:42 rtprio: the 5(BCM2712) on a nvme is quite swift now... 17:51:08 dsadas 17:51:19 u guys are all pwned 17:51:34 md5sum -c checksum.md5 17:51:45 How coms freebsd md5 cant even do something so simple 17:51:47 ... 18:10:34 Tenkawa: i would believe it 18:10:44 psionic: what are you talking about 18:27:46 what I'm talking about that in linux with md5sum you can read the md5s from a file and check the original files to see they match the checksum or not 18:28:01 fbsd seems to have some crappy md5 in it expect me do them one by one from command line lol 18:28:35 psionic, md5sum -c string file 18:31:21 I need this for fbsd 10.3-STABLE FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE 18:31:31 any chance I can dl the binary from somewhere? 18:31:41 not in the mood of compiling 18:33:09 the_oz: isn't the BSD syntax ie: md5 -c 1edc3944e1323839336a91e91c7137e3 /usr/bin/file 18:33:32 md5sum needs a file doesn't it for reading hashes with -c doesn't it? 18:33:42 bsd vs gnu 18:34:29 I don' 18:34:33 t know 18:34:41 md5 -c 1edc3944e1323839336a91e91c7137e3 /usr/bin/file 18:34:42 MD5 (/usr/bin/file) = 1edc3944e1323839336a91e91c7137e3 18:34:45 yes 18:35:00 md5sum -c 1edc3944e1323839336a91e91c7137e3 /usr/bin/file 18:35:00 md5sum: 1edc3944e1323839336a91e91c7137e3: No such file or directory 18:35:35 if you give it a bad sum you get: 18:35:36 md5 -c 1edc3944e1323839336a91e91c7137f /usr/bin/file 18:35:36 MD5 (/usr/bin/file) = 1edc3944e1323839336a91e91c7137e3 [ Failed ] 18:44:21 usage: md5sum [-bctwz] [files ...] 18:44:28 because -c doesn't take a parameter 18:45:39 md5 does 18:47:39 md5sum on freebsd does not work the same on linux 18:48:24 you could probably install the coreutils to get the gnu version if it's that important to you 18:54:49 ivy: I've actually got some usb to rs232 port devices. Theres an idea... wire up a chunk of cat5 cable to a rs232 port plug and route it next to the ethernet run over to my desk area. 22:12:00 Relevant, mostly: looking to fill a userland developer position: https://klarasystems.com/careers/freebsd-software-engineer/ 22:30:51 If one were to read the man page one would see that md5 is the BSD style command and md5sum is the GNU style command. With options that associate each way. Both are available on both systems. Using the appropriate command should yield the expected results. 23:41:38 I don' 23:41:42 damnit 23:42:16 I don't think Linux has md5 and/or FreeBSD got md5sum - there's gmd5sum in coreutils however on FreeBSD 23:44:01 kevans: I had friends forwarding me the link to that job offer 23:45:45 we have md5sum as of late 23:45:52 armin: md5sum is on my debian box 23:45:58 armin: ah, nice. so our reach is reasonable 23:47:32 I have both on my freebsd server. 23:50:02 mrelcee: There's indeed /sbin/md5, good hint, that's the same binary as the md5 program though 23:50:16 mrelcee: looks like hard-linked? 23:50:24 md5sum introduced in 13.1, 14.0+ 23:50:41 interesting 23:50:52 md5*, sha*, skein* are all implemented by the same program, mux'd on the name of the link 23:51:06 mux'd :D 23:54:21 big fan of substituting a single letter with a single character