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parappa
Installed portscout, but unsure whether I really need to use Postgres or SQLite is just fine
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alepzi
on my host firewall (pf) i got a option set skip on tap, so traffic in or out of bhyve vms gets passed always. is there something like set skip on tap for jails so traffic in or out of a jail gets passed always?
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alepzi
the jail interface is epair<jid>a, so i can do set skip on epair?
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alepzi
like sysctl.conf net.link.epair.up_on_open=1?
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sfox
You forgot sysctl kern.bugs=0
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alepzi
set skip on epair actually works!!!
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o/o/\
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xFCFFDFFFFEFFFAF
set timeout.womoneys = 3
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lw
Soni: lack of IPv4 shouldn't cause boot delays, i haven't noticed that on any of my ipv6-only systems. if you want to remove IPv4 support, you can try building src with WITHOUT_INET=yes and remove 'options INET' from your kernel, but i suspect this isn't well tested, so be prepared to send patches
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lw
(IPv6 actually slows down boot a lot more because it waits for DAD on every interface... i feel like that should be optional, or perhaps it is and i just didn't find the option to turn it off)
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moviuro
Processing entries: 340070% <- go home pkgng, u drunk
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sfox
lw: it is optional. You have to turn it off to work around a bug in iocage
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sfox
I wish it wasn't something i had to turn off though as ipv6-dad is very useful
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lw
i don't mind DAD, i just wish it didn't wait for it on every boot. i guess not doing that might interfere with services that need networking though
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sfox
The problem is a race conditions where daemons try to bind to addresses before slaac and dad have finished
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sfox
So when you bring up a jail, it fails to start daemons properly if at all
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jauntyd
Does anyone want/need basic to intermediate FreeBSD related assistance? Just looking to stretch my legs a bit.
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tykling
:D
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tykling
what a nice offer
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Soni
lw: we had to take DHCP out of some sysrc thing and that got rid of the boot delays
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lw
found a bug compiling without 'options INET', trivial patch:
freebsd/freebsd-src #1155 ... haven't actually tested the built kernel yet
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VimDiesel
Title: sys/netinet6/in6_pcb.c: fix compile without INET by llfw · Pull Request #1155 · freebsd/freebsd-src · GitHub
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buhtz
I do know about "
ports.freebsd.org". Is there any other package archive I can search for FreeBSD available packages if I don't have a BSD at hand?
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VimDiesel
Title: FreeBSD Ports Search
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» buhtz is a Debian users
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lw
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VimDiesel
Title: FreshPorts -- The Place For Ports - Most recent commits
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lw
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VimDiesel
Title: sys/dev/irdma/irdma_cm: fix compile without INET by llfw · Pull Request #1156 · freebsd/freebsd-src · GitHub
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buhtz
freshports.org feels like time traveling into the 90s. Is this the official FreeBSD repository?
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buhtz
"ports" doesn't sound like it.
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lw
buhtz: it's not official but it's very widely used
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buhtz
I am not looking for a 3rd party source like PPAs, AUR or something similiar. Just the pure official FreeBSD package repo.
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lw
"ports" is the source tree that freebsd packages are built from, freshports tells you what version is in ports and what version is in the various binary package repositories
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lw
oh, if you mean does freshport index the official ports repository, yes it does
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lw
it's basically what everyone uses to get info about ports/packages
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buhtz
But why "ports"?
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buhtz
I mean where does this term comes from?
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lw
because ports is software which has been ported to freebsd
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lw
openbsd and dragonfly also call theirs 'ports', netbsd's is called 'pkgsrc' which is perhaps a bit more pedantically accurate ...
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buhtz
But isn't this a bit masochistic? Sounds like FreeBSD is something on the edge and outsider. What is about software that is written exclusivley for FreeBSD? That wouldn't be a port.
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buhtz
I was looking for "Back In Time" (an rsyn based GUI backup tool) on *BSD.
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lw
and one more non-INET patch to fix pf:
freebsd/freebsd-src #1157 ... with this, a non-INET kernel boots and works fine on my mail server
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VimDiesel
Title: sys/netpfil/pf: fix non-INET module build by llfw · Pull Request #1157 · freebsd/freebsd-src · GitHub
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dstolfa
lw: what the hell happened with the cross-builds and ktrace? lol
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dstolfa
why is it failing in a completely unrelated part of the code
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dstolfa
oh it's been failing on main as well
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lw
dstolfa: i don't know! i'm pretty sure it's not my fault though
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lw
i think cross-building is just broken, maybe something to do with the llvm output?
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dstolfa
there are some recent ktrace changes, though
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lw
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lw
next is to test WITHOUT_INET, but i need to build a separate pkgbase repository for that which is a hassle
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dvl
buhman: 'port' is a historical term. The port is the Makefile etc used to create the package.
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lw
jbo: ping
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jbo
jbo, pong
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jbo
err...
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jbo
lw, pong
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lw
jbo: i finally got syncoid working with delegated permissions, seems to work fine except it can't mount anything without usermount enabled (which is fine, zfs mount -a works). since i use Kerberos, i got it working without any SSH keys, too
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lw
just in case you're interested, not sure where you got up to on that
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jbo
lw, oh, I got syncoid working with delegated permissions too - I thought I told you about that
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jbo
lw, I really appreciate that you were still thinking of that/me. Thank you :)
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jbo
lw, I still didn't setup a sanoid config on the backup destiation host to delete old snapshot tho
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alepzi
there anything wrong with having a network bridge configured that bhyve vms access through tap and putting the host's ip on the host's interface? right now the host's ip is on the bridge and everything works but i'm curious about putting the host ip on the host interface instead of the bridge
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SponiX
YAY.. I finally got a GUI going in the FreeBSD VM !!
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alepzi
NICE
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alepzi
how do you connect to vm gui? tigervnc?
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SponiX
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VimDiesel
Title: FreeBSD as a guest VM in virt-manager - #9 by nevj - Other Distributions - It's FOSS Community
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SponiX
I'm using virt-manager and just bringing FreeBSD up in its console viewer
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SponiX
local as a guest on my Fedora 40 Host OS
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SponiX
Good Documentation always helps
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alepzi
yes it IS possible to put an ip on a host's interface instead of the bridge on the host
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alepzi
i really like the idea of putting the host ip on its interface and not the bridge so i can make clearer firewall rules
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alepzi
rules that clearly affect only the host, or not
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Soni
we can't get the filesystem to grow and we can't fit /usr/src into it
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Soni
we have created a new filesystem but we're not sure how to point both /usr/src and /usr/obj to it, apparently nullfs can be used for this?
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Soni
well, that seems to work
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SponiX
If I install a port of something that I already have a pkg of -- will it override the binary pkg install with the ports one?
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SponiX
like will it "upgrade" the pkg from the ports?
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nmz
I would really like it if when something installed it actually sent an email
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nmz
hell it can be to root@localhost
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rwp
alepzi, You should run a network I/O performance benchmark in both of the different configurations and verify that there is no performance reason for one way over the other way.
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alepzi
oh that's a good idea
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nocturne777
I want to run FreeBSD as my hypervisor using CBSD. I also want to have a NAS on the same server. I am wondering if I should not virtualize the NAS part. For context, it will be a powerful machine to host my own cloud, run AI models, etc.
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nimaje
why do you think about not virtualizing the nas part?
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nocturne777
nimaje, I am thinking if being closer to the metal would have benefits
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nimaje
use paravirtualization features like virtio and passing thru the disks directly
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nimaje
likely that is performant enought