01:49:11 Installed portscout, but unsure whether I really need to use Postgres or SQLite is just fine 02:03:31 on my host firewall (pf) i got a option set skip on tap, so traffic in or out of bhyve vms gets passed always. is there something like set skip on tap for jails so traffic in or out of a jail gets passed always? 02:04:06 the jail interface is epaira, so i can do set skip on epair? 02:05:54 like sysctl.conf net.link.epair.up_on_open=1? 02:33:13 You forgot sysctl kern.bugs=0 02:39:45 set skip on epair actually works!!! 02:40:17 o/o/\ 02:40:38 set timeout.womoneys = 3 06:39:22 Soni: lack of IPv4 shouldn't cause boot delays, i haven't noticed that on any of my ipv6-only systems. if you want to remove IPv4 support, you can try building src with WITHOUT_INET=yes and remove 'options INET' from your kernel, but i suspect this isn't well tested, so be prepared to send patches 06:42:52 (IPv6 actually slows down boot a lot more because it waits for DAD on every interface... i feel like that should be optional, or perhaps it is and i just didn't find the option to turn it off) 07:43:36 Processing entries: 340070% <- go home pkgng, u drunk 08:32:49 lw: it is optional. You have to turn it off to work around a bug in iocage 08:33:16 I wish it wasn't something i had to turn off though as ipv6-dad is very useful 08:33:44 i don't mind DAD, i just wish it didn't wait for it on every boot. i guess not doing that might interfere with services that need networking though 08:33:44 The problem is a race conditions where daemons try to bind to addresses before slaac and dad have finished 08:34:16 So when you bring up a jail, it fails to start daemons properly if at all 11:32:38 Does anyone want/need basic to intermediate FreeBSD related assistance? Just looking to stretch my legs a bit. 11:33:12 :D 11:33:15 what a nice offer 11:37:46 lw: we had to take DHCP out of some sysrc thing and that got rid of the boot delays 12:38:35 found a bug compiling without 'options INET', trivial patch: https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/pull/1155 ... haven't actually tested the built kernel yet 12:38:36 Title: sys/netinet6/in6_pcb.c: fix compile without INET by llfw · Pull Request #1155 · freebsd/freebsd-src · GitHub 12:46:39 I do know about "https://ports.freebsd.org/". Is there any other package archive I can search for FreeBSD available packages if I don't have a BSD at hand? 12:46:40 Title: FreeBSD Ports Search 12:46:46 * buhtz is a Debian users 12:46:58 buhtz: https://www.freshports.org/ 12:46:59 Title: FreshPorts -- The Place For Ports - Most recent commits 12:59:51 and another: https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/pull/1156 12:59:52 Title: sys/dev/irdma/irdma_cm: fix compile without INET by llfw · Pull Request #1156 · freebsd/freebsd-src · GitHub 13:04:02 freshports.org feels like time traveling into the 90s. Is this the official FreeBSD repository? 13:04:15 "ports" doesn't sound like it. 13:04:22 buhtz: it's not official but it's very widely used 13:04:38 I am not looking for a 3rd party source like PPAs, AUR or something similiar. Just the pure official FreeBSD package repo. 13:04:44 "ports" is the source tree that freebsd packages are built from, freshports tells you what version is in ports and what version is in the various binary package repositories 13:04:57 oh, if you mean does freshport index the official ports repository, yes it does 13:05:11 it's basically what everyone uses to get info about ports/packages 13:05:22 But why "ports"? 13:05:29 I mean where does this term comes from? 13:05:35 because ports is software which has been ported to freebsd 13:06:16 openbsd and dragonfly also call theirs 'ports', netbsd's is called 'pkgsrc' which is perhaps a bit more pedantically accurate ... 13:06:49 But isn't this a bit masochistic? Sounds like FreeBSD is something on the edge and outsider. What is about software that is written exclusivley for FreeBSD? That wouldn't be a port. 13:08:48 I was looking for "Back In Time" (an rsyn based GUI backup tool) on *BSD. 13:38:18 and one more non-INET patch to fix pf: https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/pull/1157 ... with this, a non-INET kernel boots and works fine on my mail server 13:38:19 Title: sys/netpfil/pf: fix non-INET module build by llfw · Pull Request #1157 · freebsd/freebsd-src · GitHub 13:43:30 lw: what the hell happened with the cross-builds and ktrace? lol 13:43:38 why is it failing in a completely unrelated part of the code 13:44:00 oh it's been failing on main as well 13:44:03 dstolfa: i don't know! i'm pretty sure it's not my fault though 13:44:16 i think cross-building is just broken, maybe something to do with the llvm output? 13:44:33 there are some recent ktrace changes, though 13:47:09 dude where's my ipv4 https://www.le-fay.org/tmp/30d/M5iU12.txt 13:47:23 next is to test WITHOUT_INET, but i need to build a separate pkgbase repository for that which is a hassle 14:16:17 buhman: 'port' is a historical term. The port is the Makefile etc used to create the package. 14:34:55 jbo: ping 15:18:01 jbo, pong 15:18:08 err... 15:18:10 lw, pong 15:18:38 jbo: i finally got syncoid working with delegated permissions, seems to work fine except it can't mount anything without usermount enabled (which is fine, zfs mount -a works). since i use Kerberos, i got it working without any SSH keys, too 15:18:55 just in case you're interested, not sure where you got up to on that 15:19:08 lw, oh, I got syncoid working with delegated permissions too - I thought I told you about that 15:19:43 lw, I really appreciate that you were still thinking of that/me. Thank you :) 15:20:02 lw, I still didn't setup a sanoid config on the backup destiation host to delete old snapshot tho 20:37:17 there anything wrong with having a network bridge configured that bhyve vms access through tap and putting the host's ip on the host's interface? right now the host's ip is on the bridge and everything works but i'm curious about putting the host ip on the host interface instead of the bridge 20:39:50 YAY.. I finally got a GUI going in the FreeBSD VM !! 20:39:58 NICE 20:40:13 how do you connect to vm gui? tigervnc? 20:50:16 https://itsfoss.community/t/freebsd-as-a-guest-vm-in-virt-manager/11276/9 20:50:20 Title: FreeBSD as a guest VM in virt-manager - #9 by nevj - Other Distributions - It's FOSS Community 20:50:30 I'm using virt-manager and just bringing FreeBSD up in its console viewer 20:50:51 local as a guest on my Fedora 40 Host OS 20:54:50 Good Documentation always helps 21:05:06 yes it IS possible to put an ip on a host's interface instead of the bridge on the host 21:18:47 i really like the idea of putting the host ip on its interface and not the bridge so i can make clearer firewall rules 21:19:07 rules that clearly affect only the host, or not 21:28:17 we can't get the filesystem to grow and we can't fit /usr/src into it 21:29:00 we have created a new filesystem but we're not sure how to point both /usr/src and /usr/obj to it, apparently nullfs can be used for this? 21:38:05 well, that seems to work 22:02:03 If I install a port of something that I already have a pkg of -- will it override the binary pkg install with the ports one? 22:02:10 like will it "upgrade" the pkg from the ports? 22:22:41 I would really like it if when something installed it actually sent an email 22:23:42 hell it can be to root@localhost 22:37:54 alepzi, You should run a network I/O performance benchmark in both of the different configurations and verify that there is no performance reason for one way over the other way. 22:45:23 oh that's a good idea 22:45:57 I want to run FreeBSD as my hypervisor using CBSD. I also want to have a NAS on the same server. I am wondering if I should not virtualize the NAS part. For context, it will be a powerful machine to host my own cloud, run AI models, etc. 22:58:08 why do you think about not virtualizing the nas part? 23:27:29 nimaje, I am thinking if being closer to the metal would have benefits 23:37:49 use paravirtualization features like virtio and passing thru the disks directly 23:38:13 likely that is performant enought