there a style guide on how to assign options, -s (hort) and --long, conventions, what's usually used for what?

wanna make a cli util that feels like it fits in with freebsd

not that i'm aware

So why hasn't 14.0-RELEASE not been anounced yet?

so cli options are all just random and that's ok?

BillyJoeBob: It will be anounced in a day or so, iirc there was an email on the mailing list that they had to fix some issues.

polyex: usually they follow the first letter of the signifnant action

Gotcha

is there a more active freebsd # on another network?

nomia, This is the main #freebsd channel and is often very busy. It's just quiet now because people were already really excited here yesterday and now they are resting.

If you have questions about FreeBSD just ask them and if someone knows something then they will say something. That's a good way to make activity in the channel.

hi, I have a arm64 FreeBSD device, I'm interest FreeBSD can disable DMA on PCIE? thanks

rwp: ok

i saw mostly account spam when i looked at channel history

Account spam? You mean people joining and departing? That's pretty normal activity for all of the channels. People come and go all of the time.

where is the source code of the freebsd package manager found?

have a good day

hyperedge: github.com/freebsd/pkg

Title: GitHub - freebsd/pkg: Package management tool for FreeBSD. Help at #pkg on Libera Chat or pkg⊙Fo

Oh, it was not pinned and I was checking inside the tree of src. Ty sphex

Will I be kicked if I am idle, I see "disconnected" each day. I am using a bouncer and I am supposed to stay online 24/7

you are allowed to idle in this channel

hyperedge: it might be your isp disconnecting you every 24h

I really doubt that. I idle in #gentoo for weeks with no problems

* hyperedge has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

oh, ok, will check my bouncer Melon

is there an offtopic channel for freebsd?

#freesbd-social

freebsd-social

my typing is no good. broken right middle finger, sorry

:thumbsup

mns yet from the handbook it seems that you download an uncompress an image for thin jails, it is like you do not really use the base system

14

difference between hostname and domain?

polyex: www.freebsd.org <- "www" is the hostname, "freebsd.org" is the domain

ok so what's www.freebsd.org then? because fqdn is www.freebsd.org.

Host = computer, hostname = computer name. Example: billy. Whereas domain = some unique identifier which points to an ip address

the confusion comes because hostname can be used to identify a computer on a network and a domain name can also be used to identify a computer on a network

the fqdn ist host + domain

fqdn requires trailing .

do you call www.freebsd.org a hostname or a domain?

sometimes on the www the hostname is left out, so you can reach websites without the hostname of the http server (ie. specify freebsd.org directly)

(ok, these days sometimes > 99%)

freebsd.org is a domain and it can have multiple servers (ip addresses) doing different things. like, www.freebsd.org serving websites, mx.freebsd.org sending emails, ftp.freebsd.org hosting an ftp server, etc.

nowadays freebsd.org is understood to host the website and www is kind of obsolete

How do I find out which upstream version of BoringSSL the port freshports.org/security/boringssl contains? If I specify the environment variables BORING_BSSL_PATH, BORING_BSSL_INCLUDE_PATH mentioned in docs.rs/boring/latest/boring, Cargo seems to pick up the files from the port below the specified 'sysroot' -- so far so good --, but it displays a version "boring-sys v2.1.0", and if you look at the displayed URL (github.com

Title: FreshPorts -- security/boringssl: Fork of OpenSSL

signalapp/boring?branch=libsignal#3809a7e1), you'll see a version 4.0.0[-rc*]. Unfortunately, the interfaces don't match.

(Native builds -- without cross-compiling, that is -- also show "Compiling boring-sys v2.1.0 (github.com/signalapp/boring?branch=libsignal#3809a7e1)", but this works flawlessly.)

Title: GitHub - signalapp/boring: BoringSSL bindings for the Rust programming language.

I'm getting an interesting error with bhyve

# vm poweroff -f comp0

errno = 37

any thoughts ?

uskerine_: you can see in the link I pasted yesterday that the base/template jail is used for the part of the file system that is shared and immutable. That jail uses the same file you could use to create a new full FreeBSD host, so no you're not sharing files with the host. Look at the fstab

scoobybejesus thanks

I am still trying to get my first thinjail up and running

antranigv: i think that means your vm is already off

babz thanks! I will try to kill it somehow

kill what ?

bpa.st/BGLQ <- shall the (thin)jail contain all filesystem folders under 13.2-RELEASE-skeleton? I am almost 100% sure that I have followed the handbook step by step (twice)

Title: View paste BGLQ

babz not sure :(

lol

I am glad that somebody has God attributes and does not file (like the Pop in the Middle Ages)

fail*

Pope*

uhm why would root not have access to kmem and mem in /dev ? first time ive noticed this during a install mtree operions

mtree: dev/mem: Permission denied

mtree: dev/kmem: Permission denied

ls from root on those provides the same thing

uskerine_: i guess that write-up is partly stale. damn it. i am looking for something for you. i have an idea.

scoobybejesus I am using UFS, it seems that most of the material uses ZFS

where is your base jail? you had to download base.txz and extract it somewhere. can you ls -l that directory?

i haven't done manual jails in a while. i should get familiar again

dch wrote really nice guide on it

i also prefer just plain manual jails with no managers for them

CmdLnKid: securelevel

don't checksum /dev

scoobybejesus: if I understood the question correctly, my base jail is /usr/local/jail

Title: View paste YEGA

scoobybejesus: with ls -l bpa.st/D5VQ

Title: View paste D5VQ

uskerine_: you can see there is a dev folder in the skeleton. that folder also needs a soft-link. the error above says it didn't find dev

I'll note that the built sudo-1.9.15p2 package became available yesterday and it has the tty fix in it. It's good to go.

or you need to copy the dev folder into the skeleton, if that's how you did it

scoobybejesus: should not that be done by mount.devfs parameter in the jail.conf?

the error message: jail: notebook: mount.devfs: /usr/local/jails/containers/notebook/dev: No such file or directory

in /usr/local/jails/containers/notebook, you have the skeleton. and the skeleton doesn't have the dev folder in it

getting this right the first time is tricky. softlinks using relative paths can definitely confuse someone

Actually in /usr/local/jails/containers/notebook I just have 13.2-RELEASE-skeleton, and inside there I have dev etc home root tmp usr var, this is the structure you end up by following the handbook step by step

i would start over, really. it doesn't take long to redo

I can do that, not a problem,but I think the handbook is not accurate

learn how to recover from that

in this paste, the dev folder is missing bpa.st/BGLQ

it will help you later

Title: View paste BGLQ

well it could be that I followed the process in a wrong way three times. Obviously I am not getting what is wrong:

Title: View paste CGPA

bpa.st/4UBQ containers/ does not contain dev, actually all folders are under 13.2-RELEASE-skeleton

Title: View paste 4UBQ

well yeah.. you have to mount devfs for it

i'm guessing you are missing something in the 46-50 range for dev, as well as the 53-58 range

i.e., the handbook may need to be updated to include this dir

and by missing that step (missing from the handbook), the following steps need to be performed fresh

just following the handbook seems weird here

i.e., rm -r /usr/local/jails/containers/notebook, and then start again at line 60

i guess that just means redoing 60-61, not the entire remainder... i think

How do I figure what is the problem when getting "BTX halted"?

jcarl43: that sounds like the bootloader, is there any more context?

rtprio: I update from 13.2-p4 to 13.2-p5 and after that the reboot hangs.

With 13.2-p4 everything was working fine

just "btx halted", nothing else?

do you multiboot this system?

no multiboot

are you able to boot again into 13.2-p4

Not sure, it's a Hetzner server and have a KVM

src/stand/i386/btx is where the BTX loader lives, but since it's basically all hand-optimized assembly, it's a bit above my pay-grade.

BTX server? Nomenclature differs.

do you see the boot menu?

rtprio: Figured it out and back at the old kernel

system started with old kernel and have ssh access

How do I force the bootloader to load the old kernel by default?

search "btx halted" in the forums, there looked like a way to repair it

or... mv /kernel /kernel.bad; mv /kernel.old /kernel

Is there a gui sip client that works in freebsd? Something usable by someone without command-line savvy?

CmdLnKid scoobybejesus any tip or suggestion?

uskerine_ new 51 mv /usr/local/jails/templates/13.2-RELEASE-base/dev /usr/local/jails/templates/13.2-RELEASE-skeleton/dev and new 59 ln -s skeleton/dev dev

Where can I find the changes that were introduce between 13.2-p4 to 13.2-p5?

Starting jails: cannot start jail "notebook":jail: notebook: mount.devfs: /usr/local/jails/containers/notebook/dev: No such file or directory

is it that etc, home, root, usr, tmp, var, dev shall be in /usr/local/jails/containers/notebook/ instead of /usr/local/jails/containers/notebook/13.2-RELEASE-skeleton/ ?

uskerine_: these are thin jails you're starting?

Yes I am trying to create my first thin jail named notebook

I am repeating the process from scratch again adding your two lines for dev

Heh. For ease of management, all my jails live in a zfs filesystem mounted on /j.

If you have a root that you mount via nullfs, it may be missing. Mounts in the wrong order might generate that error.

I tried again to be sure that there were no typos, same error: jail: notebook: mount.devfs: /usr/local/jails/containers/notebook/dev: No such file or directory

# ls -ltr /usr/local/jails/containers/notebook/ drwxr-xr-x 9 root wheel 512 Nov 16 15:32 13.2-RELEASE-skeleton

shall the contents of 13.2-RELEASE-skeleton be actually under /usr/local/jails/containers/notebook ?

# ls /usr/local/jails/containers/notebook/13.2-RELEASE-skeleton/ ---> dev etc home root tmp usr var

i thought the jail setup system mounted /dev/ for you

I am trying to locate more resources on thin jails but thick jails seem to be preferred

I find appealing the idea of sharing the base system for my particular case

I only use thin jails.

But I have my own toolset for building them..

Upgrades are often a bit of a hassle with thin jails, but they are also often easier to secure.

But you use ZFS right?

my server uses UFS, I think there is some step overlooked in the Handbook, likely something easy to fix if you know what you are doing but pretty blocking if you are not knowledgeable

Heh, nice...

Title: GitHub - microsoft/inshellisense: IDE style command line auto complete

I'm running freebsd in hyper-V on Gen2 option. My mouse and keyboard are not getting captured/transfered to the VM XFCE desktop. How do I correct this?

can i install freebsd 14 like this? forums.freebsd.org/threads/freebsd-bananapi-m3-support.58728

Title: Freebsd BananaPi M3 support | The FreeBSD Forums

idk how to build a image on linux

xzcat FreeBSD-14.0-RELEASE-arm-armv7-GENERICSD.img.xz > /dev/mmcblk0

this doesn't work

nomia, Try reading the data written back and verifying the hash signature. But I presume the problem is that the result does not boot?

I have never booted an ARM that way so I don't know anything about the arm boot side of things but I write SD cards quite often.

For that matter if there is trouble then it is good to verify the original file hash signature too.

uskerine_: yes, I use ZFS. When making a new jail, I mount my mroot to the jail location (`mount -tnullfs -oro /j/mroot-13.2-R /j/foo`), which has symlinks like "/usr/local -> /s/usr-local" and "/var -> /s/var", then mount the jail's skeleton onto /s in the jail (`mount -t nullfs /j/s/foo /j/foo/s`).

You could do this in UFS I guess, but the jail creation process would be more complicated. Right now it's a ZFS send/receive to make /s.

Heya folks, I'm trying to get Logseq running on my system by extracting the appimage. (Building it didn't work). I set chrome-sandbox permissions like it said to, but now it apparently can't find the libffmpeg that came with the appimage, despite `ldd` confirming that it knows where it is. Any ideas?

uskerine_: The mounts are done by an fstab that is part of my jail creation process. sprunge.us/VwrG9b Pretty basic, `mount.fstab="/etc/fstab.$name";` in /etc/jail.conf. If a jail needs more filesystems, I just add them here and let mount take care of things.

My problem could also be to do with "Failed to read /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches"

which I assume is a linux compat thing

oh wait there's a port for it in 14!