helloo

does pipewire work in freebsd?

and if not, what solution can i use for wayland based (swaywm for example) desktop for audio?

(in linux i need pipewire for screensharing under wayland)

Fergorn: there is pipewire package, but I never tried it so I can say how good it is

meka is it in main repos?

there's only one repo, foghorn

Fergorn, it's available as a package: docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/ports/#pkgng-intro explains how to install packages.

Title: Chapter 4. Installing Applications: Packages and Ports | FreeBSD Documentation Portal

Hey all, when using freebsd-update to apply FreeBSD Errata Notice FreeBSD-EN-22:27.loader do I need to manually update the loader in the EFI partition?

kinda weird that it busywaits at the mountfrom prompt

Is there any solution to this? There is no way to run puppeteer in freebsd? this does not works even puppeteer/puppeteer #5034#issuecomment-1236913615

Title: FreeBSD is not supported · Issue #5034 · puppeteer/puppeteer · GitHub

5034 – (tcsh) blocked write on named pipe sticks in uninterruptible sleep bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=5034

Maybe not use tcsh?

tcsh delenda est

sadly it's standard equipment in freebsd

same here, I like tcsh as well.

I am on freebsd and it does not supports puppeteer. What are my choices now? docker or something else? V_PauAmma_V

Sircle: I recommend Debian or Alpine linux for docker.

Alpine makes some tiny images

ya but I wanted to use freebsd for all purposes

wez

oh

freebsd is all about gaols, it doesn't like proper virtualisation

Sircle: you my try podman. It's still fresh! freshports.org/sysutils/podman-suite

Title: FreshPorts -- sysutils/podman-suite: Metaport of podman and buildah toolkit

docker runs on freebsd ? I thought it didn't ?

I also though that

thought*

seems like the docker package is there in FreeBSD

wez so I cannot have virtualbox inside freebsd?

kwiat ok

mns ok

I wonder why there is no support of puppeteer in freebsd?

 puppeteer/puppeteer #5034#issuecomment-1236913615

Title: FreeBSD is not supported · Issue #5034 · puppeteer/puppeteer · GitHub

5034 – (tcsh) blocked write on named pipe sticks in uninterruptible sleep bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=5034

i run virtualbox with great success

even usb forwarding for smart cards

Sircle: that link answers your question, no?

does not resolves it though

yuripv

don't think there'a anything *FreeBSD* can do about it

yuripv what can be done then?

Sircle: convince the maintainer to support it; or fork the project and maintain it yourself.

Sircle: you have a ci pipeline that uses puppeteer?

rtprio what would the maintainer/ me have to do to support puppeteer in freebsd? deal with some binaries or soemthing?

rtprio no its a scrappign app

and we have written code already. Just thinking to shift to freebsd for more stability and better use of system resources that as compared to linux

Sircle: if you have to ask, you're probably not cut out for it. you would need to modify the code to work with freebsd ( assuming it can be done) and keep the code up to date and secure

you've probably spent more time horsing around than it would have taken to install linux so you can use your scraping app

rtprio its already being used on a linux machine. I am jus ttesting bsd on a vm as guest

rtprio any more suggestions?

i'm just wondering what are you scraping with this software

i ask because i think it's a component of github.com/garris/BackstopJS and it's one reason i had to spin up a linux vm for it

Title: GitHub - garris/BackstopJS: Catch CSS curve balls.

the other thing i guess you could do is hire someone to make the `chromium --headless` work in freebsd

if I plug out drive of one system that had freebsd installed and plug in on another hardware (different specs like ram, cpu etc), will it work?

rtprio I hired myself and just fixed it

yes, you should be able to move the drive around; the network might need to be adjusted

network?

oh the dhcp kind of thing?

so the drivers etc are inside freebsd. I don't need to reinstall or worry about crashing anything.?

if the network card is different, the config will need to be changed- that's the `ifconfig_em0="DHCP"` line

you don't need to reinstall

rtprio are you a linux user too? how much performance difference of same resource utilization have you observed as compared to fbsd/

ok on netword

ok on network

i only run linux for when i need docker or ..headless chromium

i much prefer the resource utilization of freebsd

oh so you also use puppeteer?

rtprio how do you compaire efficiency of linux and freebsd in terms of resource utilization percentage efficiency?

i just said i use backstopjs, which uses puppeteer as a component

well, systemd strikes me as extremely inefficient, so that's a pretty big strike for linux

rtprio ok anything else? UI difference, daemons differences, browsers, video, nginx, web servers?

heavy load?

xorg?

I had a lot of bad times with linux xorg though

Sircle: too subjctive and very much depends on the workload

furthermore few people have the time to set up two identical systems, one linux and one freebsd to see how they diffrent.

so it becomes "use the right tool for the task"

ok

Or sometimes "use the tool that fits your hand" or "use the tool that suits your taste".

ya :)

I just wanted stability and efficiency. Freebsd has it but the items it can run is limitiing me.

the puppeteer guy seems kind of curmudgeony;

Good evening. Is there a way to find out what release or code branch a package/port is using?

pmnw: it's in the Makefile

or packagename

rwp: or `pkg info portname`

Hi rtprio! Whatever that was in response to has scrolled away for me. Can I get a clue? To what was that referring?

@rwp "Is there a way to find out what release or code branch a package/port is using?" (from @pmnw)

sorry, mis-tab

it was in response to pmnw

No worries! That's the danger of using a short nick.

or using a shitty keyboard

I have often wondered if it is possible to get the pkg info output for a package that is not yet installed though?

pkg search -f

it will return all matching results, so you may have to tweak the query a bit. But that should get you started

Thanks patmaddox! See it was possible for me to benefit from the conversation anyway. :-)

rtprio: Thank you, your information was helpful.