how can i troubleshoot cron? the command i put in does not seem to be executed, but in the cron log, it shows it runs the command, but the command is partially cut off in the log

CCLFL_Man: what does your configuration line look like?

CCFL_Man: your root might receive a mail with output (at least, if the exit code was not `0`—output on `stderr` might trigger that too. Includes environment etc.

35 19 * * * /usr/local/bin/wget -q -O /home/closet/tivocidcalllog/cidcall.log.`date '+%Y-%m-%d'` ftp://192.168.0.103/var/log/cidcall.log

the command works fine run from the shell

make a wrapper script, call the wrapper script instead of the complex command line

then you can throw in troubleshooting in the script, like touch a file or whatever

BTW: in the mail, the environment etc. are in the mail header (X-Cron-Env: entries)

nacelle: but it should run on its own though

it's the user cron

i have sendmail disabled

so the root account won't receive a mail

to wrap it is a good idea. is a `wget` stuck? (ttyout or the like?) (e.q. see top)

Well it is handy to install dma or something and just get the mail using MAILTO / MAILFROM variables in the crontab. That and a wrapper script. Those are the easy ways to troubleshoot.

can the wrapper script be a shebang and the command?

You bet.

CCFL_Man: you can't use `` inside a crontab

ey, this may be a weird one: does the i386 build of freebsd support EFI, or will I only be able to use it on a BIOS-based IA32 system? I don't have anything unusual, this is just for a virtualization use

... is there still an i386 build of freebsd?

Title: Index of /pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/i386/ISO-IMAGES/

I don't think it supports EFI, but I could be wrong.

I see a mention of "i386" at wiki.freebsd.org/UEFI -- cannot say anything else about it

Title: UEFI - FreeBSD Wiki

right on, I think I will just use BIOS for my IA32 testing

Actually, wiki.freebsd.org/SummerOfCode2012/IntelEFIBoot

Title: SummerOfCode2012/IntelEFIBoot - FreeBSD Wiki

looks like it does?

now, do I do GPT/BIOS or do I use the classic MBR disklabel? heck, do I use a BSD disklabel on the whole disk, like some kind of maniac?

MBR

sensible, sensible.

y'know what, it's nothing too production-sensitive, I just want to see what'll happen. I'll try the BSD disklabel first

well, this is going well. I've tried to fire up the memstick image twice now, once as virtio disk and once as USB disk, and seabios isn't having it

Got CD?

or try PXE boot

I fired up the bootonly cd and managed, after some hackery, to get a shell on ttyu0

I'm having to do the installation manually, using fetch and tar

fun times, fun times

`sysrc sendmail_enable=NONE` to turn off sendmail, right?

oh, fancy, my terminal's getting hangups

hanging up your modem

S2=255

Plasmoduck: quite

is there anyone manage emails in both cli and graphical client?

mictty: ????

how to do emailing list? I mean I how to organize and read them happily?

mutt/neomutt?

What mailserver are you using? On my system where I export my mailboxes, I use Dovecot for storage and Nightmare Mail, my own fork of qmail, for federation. Nightmare Mail is also readily compatible with running one's own mailing list service.

LXGHTNXNG: I tried mutt and will try self-hosting server but

When it comes to reading mail locally, I use Heirloom mailx, though I wouldn't call myself a fan; it has to index mail every time I open my maildir

whenever I open my email, it looks so messy I don't want to read email

in my largest maildir, that takes an exceptionally long time.

gmail, mutt, graphical cli whatever

mictty: use the mutt or neomutt client

it works in console and terminal

It's curses based

... those are the same thing Plasmoduck

kinda

anyway

mictty: I tend to use Thunderbird if I have an IMAP server I can point it to.

mictty: you need to sort out your config file or inbox

I used thunderbird as well. the gmail syncing was good

but I need some good organization scheme

organization?

sorry, *Organizing

my bad sense of noun

:/

mictty: I mean, what do you mean by an organizing/organization scheme?

do you mean about how it organizes into several directories?

Perhaps you would need set up filters to shove mail in different folders^Wlabels

parv: IMAP does have a concept of different folders, which on my system are represented as separate maildirs

as I use dovecot for storage

LXGHTNXNG, Well, mictty is talking about "gmail"

it is just a high level idea. I sometimes decide to keep on track of some mailing

then some month later forget or decide not to

then such stuff piles up

then disaster

Add a filter to find email of X days old & delete as you are not reading them anyway

right...............

parv: I've often read very old emails

so, that's not really a choice

one could separate by source domain, although that is spoofable?

parv: I agree. Sometimes I need to let them go.

LXGHTNXNG, Let me rephrase, "mictty: Add a filter to find email ..."

parv: I just need to give up for those emails

mictty, You could also reduce the lists that you are subscribed to

or divert them into a separate directory, as I do

parv: so one should design to have sort of expiration duration?

parv: like milk?

mictty, Certainly if one cannot keep up with the rate of incoming emails

rules

if ports@ move to Ports

LXGHTNXNG: I sometimes read old emails for like signed documents or receipt

mictty, Sort that in a "long term" or some such "folder"

read delete repeat

parv: periodic un-subscribing..

1. expiration, 2. long-term box, 3. periodic un-subscribing

or create an email account specifically for ML's

ML? I thought of a scripting as some filter?

mailing lists

procmail can do some nice things

but these days do you really need to join X@ ML ?

are you talking about webbase mailing archive?

freebsd also has something like that if I have googled properly

Title: Mailing Lists | The FreeBSD Project

those

LXGHTNXNG: diversity... I will try as well

well, sh--

thank you all. fun to talk.

my installation did not succeed

it shouldn't have done, anyway; it was a simple setup with just an a partition on a BSD labeled whole disk

I just got a pair of hdds. I will try zfs

then I will store email

then I will organize them and read them happily

right. it was the wrong bootstraps. you want /boot/boot for a bsdlabel.

remember that if you ever have a BIOS system and you are using a bsd disklabel rather than the usual mbr disklabel.

any reason why you want to store emails rather than just view them online ?

cpet: somebody has to store them for you for you to be able to view them on the Web

I should install SDI on this VM...

more like a group of people

well, true

will /dev/ufs/<label> settings work in fstab?

Hi everyone. Is bhyve officially supported only on FreeBSD or can it be used as a hypervisor on other variants, as well?

It has been used with some success on illumos.

LXGHTNXNG, so it's just FreeBSD and Illumos so far?

I think so

thanks

Title: GitHub - machyve/xhyve: xhyve, a lightweight OS X virtualization solution

xhyve is sadly busted at the moment because of changes to the MacOS network stack. It's been forked to "HyperKit," which is what powers newer versions of MacOS Docker. It would be nice if those folks sent some of their good work back upstream to bhyve!

It would've been quite neat if the other BSDs had adopted bhyve instead of reinventing the wheel, but that's not what happened.

e.

There is something to be said for a desire for capabilities bhyve may not be able to supply.

hello people i need please a help i have system freebsd 12.02 and i get error when i write cpan ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.32/mach/CORE/libperl.so.5.32: Undefined symbol "strerror_l@FBSD_1.6"

someone can please to help me

with?

i have problem in freebsd 12.2 when i write cpan i get error

this what i get ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.32/mach/CORE/libperl.so.5.32: Undefined symbol "strerror_l@FBSD_1.6" you know about it please?

you know bittin?

ASHER: ldd /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.32/mach/CORE/libperl.so.5.32 and see if there's something mismatched or missing maybe?

no i try write cpan and this what i get

mason i try write that cpan install Term::ReadLine::Perl

you know about it please?

someone please?

ASHER: ldd /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.32/mach/CORE/libperl.so.5.32 and see if there's something mismatched or missing.

i told to you i try write cpan install Term::ReadLine::Perl and this what i get

ASHER: usually this means you need to either update your system, or build the port from scratch (rather than using the package)

but this a system freebsd 12.2

:S

right. build the port from scratch to reinstall and it should work

Pretty sure 12.2 needs to be upgraded.

it doesn't have to be

Well, it is unsupported.

yeah, he should upgrade

There's a p5-Term-ReadLine-Perl package anyway.

But enough CPAN and it may be unsalveable anyway.

not sure what that package has to do with anything

unsalvageable*

rtprio: It's a mystery, yeah.

not working

i install that and again i get error

start by upgrading your OS, ASHER

to 13?

there is a reason it's considered "UNSUPPORTED"

ASHER: 12.3 or 13.1

ASHER your problem looks like you are trying to run something built with a more recent version than yours

ok

i wiil try but i see also problem too 13

as a rule a newer OS will continue to run old software but an old OS won't be able to run newer versions

ASHER: You're undefined symbol issue indicates that something disagrees with that library, or that that library depends on something unavailable or something of the sort. It's not coherent and matching, and it all needs to be. Programs are built with conceptions of certain symbols that require that the linked libraries match.

this mean i need install c?

ASHER: Some of this might come from CPAN being confused about versions. In general where possible you're safest using system packages (ports/pkgs in this case) to get the Perl libraries you want, as they will match.

ASHER: Vaguely related, if you DO need CPAN for stuff, you'd be well advised to make heavy use of local::lib, as that'll contain potentially conflicting sets of CPAN-originated packages.

FWIW, there's a package for it as well: p5-local-lib

ok

This is the sanest way to move forward, as then if you need to migrate your code, you'll have a small, contained local::lib tree and a known set of system packages.

ok i will try thanks

That said, upgrading to a supported FreeBSD is a lovely idea. For 12, that'd be 12.4.

Sorry, 12.3, although 12.4 is Real Soon Now.

Title: FreeBSD 12.4 Release Process | The FreeBSD Project

ok thanks i make upgrade

ASHER: Realize that if you have a bunch of CPAN stuff in there, that might still present a problem post-upgrade. Come back if so.

:( i want back to 11.8 but i know freebsd is not support about this version

why would you want to do that

beacouse is have very much memory

11.8? doesn't sound like freebsd version

11 goes to 11.4 on freebsd.org/releases

Title: Release Information | The FreeBSD Project

the only .8 release is 4.8

it was a good one

(i mean, outside of 2.2.8)

its only 19 years old now

3.3 was my first, i think

i did some stuff with 4.6 but only to interface with another 4.6 box well after 4.6 was EOL

thanks guys for the help with cron. putting the command in a script did the trick

nacelle, 4.x went up to at leats 4.11

least

CrtxReavr: sure

CrtxReavr: the point was someone said they wanted 11.8 ...

People were freaking out over it too.

That's where I was exposed to the term "bikeshedding."

'Course, the OS went through a lot of flux in the 4.x days.

CCFL_Man: you're welcome

Was a huge difference in features between 3.x & 4.x, plus there was all the Matt Dillon fuckery that head to the split in the project to FreeBSD & DragonflyBSD.

And 5.x was a steaming pile as a result.

Things settled down and continued ahead well by 6.x though.

morn