hi

how do we see what people are working on with freebsd project?

aka product backlog

I guess nobody is here now

michaelsavage perhaps the quarterly report is a good place to start?

yes sounds good

Title: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report Third Quarter 2022 | The FreeBSD Project

that's every 12 weeks?

Yep

Every 3 months, so more like 13 weeks.

thank you just going to read through that

michaelsavage, and on a microlevel, you can look at what people are committing to the 3 repositories: cgit.freebsd.org

Title: FreeBSD Git repositories

are there any developments that are contracted to the freebsd foundation?

to freebsd basically?

for example, does net flix contract freebsd to do development or another enterprise?

Hy!

this tier 1 cloud service is interesting

michaelsavage: Which one?

Title: FreeBSD as a Tier I cloud-init Platform | FreeBSD Foundation

this one

ah nice

my questions on this is that how do they approach and plan on getting it done?

cloud-init is mostly used by AWS right? Or have other adopted it?

have they broken this task up into story points that will get completed in 5 weeks?

I think oracle adopted it also if I remember correctly

michaelsavage: I think they use T-Shirt sizes over story points

Or dog breeds

are you serious or joking?

Joking, I have no idea what they use

but T-Shirt sizes and dog breeds are other common ones

well is this project going to fall through the cracks or is it getting done?

in progress when was the start date and what is the progress?

All excellent questions

how do we get answers?

I guess I will contact the office

I'm sort of trying to understand how they go about getting things done

is FreeBSD repo still using cvs?

we go about getting things done :) since I can be considered part of the team :)

yes I think so

why not git?

they use git

good

git just transfers over a fie

there's actually a nice article about why svn is better

but you can use one or the other and get the same results

i've readed git docs (while using it for ~4 years before) and found that cvs is drastically feature-less than git

for example no feature branch workflow process

hi wer

sorry for coming so long again my laptop suddenly froze and was watching a television show

Been racking my brain trying to figure out why 'block drop quick proto tcp from <f2b-fast-log-pbt> to any

' is not working. I am seeing IPs in the table 'f2b-fast-log-pbt' still being able to send traffic.

And the f2b anchor is the first thing after block all, so there should not be any reason it is still being forwarded.

blarg, after spending nearly an hour bashing my head in about it, I realized derp... proto tcp... yeah, just removed that and it is happy

okay, no difference

VVelox, You might have states? Have you checked the rule hits after flushing everything?

Also "tcpdump" with remote IP addresses as source|destination specified could be instructive

Oh, at least during the debugging I hope you are logging everything

parv: ohh! forgot about that, thanks!

VVelox, So was it the pre-established states that allowed the block rules to be skipped?

parv: either that or something else funny with the rules... went wrote most of them as there was lots of stuff no long relevant in them, I think one of those blew state that causing the issue

VVelox, Ah. Alright

parv: hmm... okay actually looks like I needed to flush it via pfctl -F state

restarting/reloading apparently does not do it

Hey!

Anybody did succesfull installation on QEMU KVM with KDE Plasma desktop environment?? I cant set up xserver...

Oclair: Should work now.

parv: So was apparently wrong. Did not make a difference.

parv: if you are curious... bsd.to/s7Y1 it looks good... that said looks like a few lines got wrapped after ->

Title: dpaste/s7Y1 (Plain Text)

michaelservice I think not directly, but Netflix contributes code to FreeBSD, either/both code developed in-house or by sponsoring independent developers. Look in the changelog for "Sponsored by: Netflix" (unsure of capitalization, so use -i)

michaelsavage: see above (from V_PauAmma_V) and <cgit.freebsd.org/src/log/?qt=grep&q=Sponsored+by%3A+Netflix>

Title: src - FreeBSD source tree

any idea why ntp_gettime() returns code 5 (ERROR)

Greetings, when executing a "pkg search samba" the newest one i get is 4.13 on FreeBSD 13.1. Is this correct?

Title: XnL4

hello folks

Nevermind, saw now that 4.16 is not available (yet) in quarterly.

I'm looking to migrate a server form linux (qemu/kvm VMs) to freebsd+bhyve.

how would I interface with the headless bhyve VMs on the remote machine? other than SSH, ofc.

Lesson learnt hard way don't run `service netif stop` over ssh :)

and if TRIM support implemented yet? didn't find clear information on that.

fragcula: :-)

fragcula: is the machine within resonable distance from you?

thorre: Monday morning it will be :X but not a production machine at all

normal_user: add a COM port and use nmdm(4) plus tip(1)

debdrup simple enough, thanks!

hi. i screwed up my termcap and pretty much everything is broken in my system now

i tried to run cap_mkdb /etc/termcap and it generates the termcap.db but all shells tell me that xterm is not recognized

export TERM=xterm

zsh: can't find terminal definition for xterm

hello

hjf: when I fixed that once after breaking it, I ended up using ed

debdrup: how did you fix it? i restored termcap back to the original but it still doesn't work

hjf: sorry, I really don't remember anything else about it, it was almost two decades ago

You might be able to use single-user mode and /rescue

i'm able to use the system. things kind of work inside gnu screen

ok finally

it was a ~/termcap.db file.

Does someone know if there's a map like that for BSD kernels? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel#/media/File:Linux_kernel_map.png

Title: Linux kernel - Wikipedia

i want to use wget to capture a file on an ftp server, but run a simple script that would append the date to the output file name. how can i do that in bash?

define a variable?

Does wget have an option to set the local filename?

OK, it does. -O. Bash understands backquotes IIRC, so use something like wget -O filename.`date '+%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M-%S'` ftp.example.org/path/to/filename

V_PauAmma_V: yes, but it doesn't seem to have an option to add a string to the file name

oh, really?

See above.

it's that simple?

thanks! I'll give that a try

(Even if bash doesn't understand backquotes as such, ISTR it has a way to include output of a command into the arguments of another.)

backquotes are old-style and deprecated

$(blah) is preferred, because the quoting rules are easier to understand

and that's not a bash-ism either, it's POSIX standard

Duly noted.

best example is probably echo '`' vs. echo `echo '`'` vs. echo $(echo '`')

I haven't needed to read and understand sh code in over a decade, or write any in... 2 or more.

is lua set to replace sh eventually for non-C code in freebsd?

or maybe only for new such code, since no reason to replace existing sh code

how does freebsd handle dns? (is there a /dev/dns?)

Define "handle dns"? If you mean "how does it resolve names", see "man resolver" for the userland API.

the blocking resolver has some obvious issues. a /dev/dns would solve that.

(in fact a /dev/dns would be far more flexible)

can you mount a file system at more than one place?

Quick opinion poll: If someone asked you, "How many programming languages do you know?" - would you include assembly in your answer?

which assembly?;)

Any.

of course. language is language.

My initial reaction wasn't a quick yes or no. It was questioning, "Well, what level of constructs are we talking?", "Is it Turing-complete?" (before I realized 2 seconds later that duh, of course it is)

I mean assemblers don't have to deal with semantics like compilers do (afaik, though I haven't ever written a real assembler).

crb: yep

Soni: man 5 resolver

_xor: i would, but only if it was relevant

V_PauAmma_V: thank you so much! that works quite well

morning

wiki.freebsd.org/PackageManagerRosettaStone how to update this?

Title: PackageManagerRosettaStone - FreeBSD Wiki

all the stuff about openbsd is wrong

or not added

sup koobs

Anyone here use neomutt? if so what terminal emulator do you use. looking for a good emulator that can open up links

Could you not assign a key binding in "neomutt" to open a link in whatever browser you want? Or, how does opening a link depends on an emulator?

parv: Some terminal emulators let you click on links to open them in web browsers. I'm guessing that's what they're looking for.

shiroyasha, Ah. Thanks