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How do i keep up to date with freebsd news? my driver ax201 isnt supported via stable current etc. would like to have freebsd on my laptop one of these days. i have no ethernet port so i'm out of luck

jb1277976: what level of detail would you be after?

jb1277976: each wiki page has its own rss feed, you could subscribe to changes to pages you were interested in

view-source:https://wiki.freebsd.org/WiFi/Iwlwifi

Title: WiFi/Iwlwifi - FreeBSD Wiki

for example

wiki.freebsd.org/WiFi/Iwlwifi rather

Title: WiFi/Iwlwifi - FreeBSD Wiki

re iwlwifi itself, i dont think theres an open/public repo bz@ is working out of, which would be nice

in the absence of that, you can 'grep' git logs like so: cgit.freebsd.org/src/log/?qt=grep&q=iwlwifi

Title: src - FreeBSD source tree

but it realies on commit message logs including 'iwlwifi' or whatever term you want

gets most of it, but may not be perfect

jb1277976: there's also twitter.com/FreeBSDHelp

Title: FreeBSD Help (@FreeBSDHelp) / Twitter

big or important to user changes are almost always shared there

Ok stable i get a bad checksum when i use iwlwifi i tried 3 mirrors and all have bad checksum i don't know how to fix that. current and release crash when connected to my wifi driver. any ideas? i can't even finish the install. it just wipes it on current soi'm left without an OS

jb1277976: also, vermaden posts a weekly roundup: vermaden.wordpress.com/posts

Title: Posts | 𝚟𝚎𝚛𝚖𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚗 | Another ${RANDOM} sysadmin sharing his experiences of work at IT industry.

jb1277976: if youve otherwise isolated local issues, next step is to provide feedback. id recommend doing so publicly on say freebsd-wireless mailing list cc bz@ with iwlwifi: crash on current ( or similar)

jb1277976: there's also the option, and this is a good option, of getting the crash info and reporting it on our bugzilla

ok

jb1277976: if its already not a known issue

jb1277976: can you get a screenshot of the crash?

there's usually a panic message, and a backtrace

koobs: I installed linux already since i was stuck without an os for like 5 hours of trying to install freebsd 0_o

roger that

koobs: Any ideas of what a checksum error is?

jb1277976: for example and reference, this month on freebsd-wireless: lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-wireless/2022-October

Title: freebsd-wireless⊙Fo

"[Bug 266887] iwlwifi crashes after 'ifconfig up':"

Title: 266887 – iwlwifi crashes after 'ifconfig up'

[Bug 267029] iwlwifi: Panic on initial network startup:

Title: 267029 – iwlwifi: Panic on initial network startup

so, point being, things are getting reported

jb1277976: need more info to provide an answer on checksum. exact command, exact error etc

where the error is seen...

something about a checksum error with base.txz mismatch or corrupted. tried two diffreent usb drivers

when doing what though?

koobs: During the install proccess using stable

so the error is seen in the install process? during which stage?

it wipese the drive downloads base.txs kernel.txs etc.. then at the end at about 99% i get the checksum error

what stable image are you using?

bootonly ?

or ..

yea boot only

use mini memstick

what is boot only?

actually one moment

literally boot only, everything fetched from repo's

not sure if and why stable snapshots would checksum error

but it wouldnt surprise me if snapshots arent lined up

jb1277976: for iwlwifi, id just stick with CURRENT, or wait for release

problem with the latter is, any issues for your card may not be tested/receive feedback for them

ok

just checking mini memstick for you hang on

I'm gonna install freebsd in a vm later or tomorrow to test it out so i can get to know how to install and set stuff up

yeh id do that

you can pci passthrough the wireless card (as an experiment)

jb1277976: yeh so you want memstick (not mini memstick)

it contains the install distributions

you dont need to select ports (just use git to grab it if you want ports (as opposed to packages)

you can get away with no src too (during install), use git for that too when you need it

only thing to mention with current (and stable), is that you dont get freebsd-update binary updates, and need to build from source, which is not hard, but one needs to actually build it

so to test in a vm use memstick and then try pci passthrough. to install on bare metal keep an eye on the bugszilla/mailing list to see if there are any updates?

if you want to isolate/report crash info for them to be fixed, then yeh having a reproducible freebsd env is useful, vm may provide it, may not (perhaps only bare metal)

i think its important for you to first decide 'yep i wanna deal with the bleeding edge'

which will set you up for all the next steps if you decide to go that way

not hard (email crash information to mailing list), check if your crash has been reported, report it if it hasnt, update when iwlwifi code is fixed

but, non-zero effort, and youll need to drive that forward

you have our help/support/advice of course

ok

koobs: What iso do you recommend i try on bare metal. im using the first boot only iso. maybe i'm using the wrong one?

boot only fetches everything remotely, which if there are issues with checksum sync for -stable versions, might have that problem

with memstick (not mini memstick), you can install from the image, no remote stuff needed

so rather than spending time with someone to track down the checksum issue, im just recommending to use an image that doesnt need remote files

latest compressed memstick image of CURRENT (20221020)

it would be nice to have mini memstick be more than bootonly, but not as big

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:|

~300mb just for kernel/lib32/base

koobs: Sweet if this works I'm on FreeBSD quick :P

jb1277976: technically :)

you have the option too of buying a supported usb wireless device

atheros/intel or whatever

koobs: Is there a. Guide on how to get the meme stick onto a usb?

~20-30 bucks maybe

jb1277976: same way you get any img -> usb

depending on the OS you currently have

Sweet

I light do it tonight

Might*

no rush, but youve got options

take it easy and let us know what you decide and how it goes

koobs: Somebody answered here the other day about wibox or wifibox for Wi-Fi

sure, you could do that too

freebsd -> full linux -> wifi driver feels a bit weird to me

but if that sounds appealing/interesting to you go nuts

only other thought is

the current blocker for your hardware is a crash

given good crash info feedback

stuff like that is fixable relatively quickly

Title: WiFi/Iwlwifi - FreeBSD Wiki

check your device against: wiki.freebsd.org/WiFi/Iwlwifi#Supported_Hardware

Title: WiFi/Iwlwifi - FreeBSD Wiki

that will answer is it 'expected' to work or not

if not, it would be good to get it explicitly added, so others can known

and then once you have your crash info : wiki.freebsd.org/WiFi/Iwlwifi#Contact

Title: WiFi/Iwlwifi - FreeBSD Wiki

koobs: Thanks will keep you guys up to date

roger, take care

koobs: Besr thing just happened. I installed FreeBSD with the memstick

Let me read up on how to get Wi-Fi up

Gotta give kid a shower brb

Guys i installed cinnamon but when trying to startx or what not I get no screens. I put my bus id but still nothing . Any ideas?

koobs: Freebsd is installed 😎

And I got an ip

first place to look is /var/log/Xorg.0.log

arielmt: What N I looking for ?

am*

any errors, warnings, or info lines that would hint at why startx doesn't give you a screen

Ok

jb1277976: wooooooooooooooooooo!

koobs: I'm on 14 current

This no screens and i915km is driving me insane lol

It's not loading for some reason. I get an error. Error loading i915kms with kldload

Hello all

Hi.

jb1277976: i use wifibox. it is way more stable and faster. Yes, i know it is sort of hack, but a decent one. great, that you can do such thing by power of bhyve

jb1277976: try ihd.

I don't find how to list installed package with pkg

pkg info

ok, i was wondering why it only output pkg itself

but it seems normal

thanks

hi what would would be the easiest and fastest way (an correct freebsd way of doing things) to allow a port only from localhost and prevent it from anywhere else?

i suppose pf would be the way forward

since pf is from openbsd, surely ipfw is the correctest way? :D

in all seriousness, any firewall would be the way to do that - so use whichever one you prefer

so...

keiserr: the question is ambiguous: what do you mean by allowing a port from localhost? You mean that someone who ssh-s into your system isn't allowed? Or do you mean that particular port listens on the network, and you want it to listen to localhost only?

thin jails. Can jid0 be constituted as one? I have to assume it would be thicker than the others as it has to run the kernel, and has to mount all other filesystems.

keiserr: X-Y problem.

In case of the former: I don't think that is possible, from a FreeBSD perspective a user ssh-ing into the machine is local

Sjottelsplak, nevermind, i just wanted to allow traffic from localhost. I followed the pf manuals, seems like it works now

:D

Reinhilde: I think the correct kernel-level nomenclature is prison0.

oh.

Anyway, that's not what I'm asking. I'm asking about a filesystem layout commonly known as "thin jails".

Sjottelsplak: you can use pam_jail to automatically jail users who log into the host ssh.

security/pam_jail I mean.

There's quite a nice little collection of pam modules in ports, that're easiest to locate by this search on freshports.org: freshports.org/search.php?stype=nam…arch=Search&format=html&branch=head

You can probably also do it with find(1), but that's a bit harder to link. ;)

Err, I forgot to escape the underscore in that query, so here's the correct one: freshports.org/search.php?stype=nam…arch=Search&format=html&branch=head

hello, i just installed kea(dhcp server) but I can find no rc.conf stuff

anyone knows how to autostart it correctly?

Not all ports have files in /usr/local/etc/rc.d, so you might need to write your own based on docs.freebsd.org/en/articles/rc-scripting

Title: Practical rc.d scripting in BSD | FreeBSD Documentation Portal

Seems like it should though, based on cgit.freebsd.org/ports/tree/net/kea/files/kea.in

Title: kea.in « files « kea « net - ports - FreeBSD ports tree

Does it show up in `service -l`

yes it does

ill just service enable it then?:)

perfect, thanks

Unless you want some flags, yes

Guys I'm getting no screens when trying to start x I've installed xfce xorg enabled dbus hald etc.. at first I was getting errors about framebuffer mode fixed that. Then no Bus is fixed that now just no screens. Any ideas?

I don't know how to get logs

check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for EE lines

Ok

Vesa v_bios address 0x9 out of range

screens found but none have a usable configuration

No screens found

0x0

I installed xf86-video-intel also and added intel as a driver to /etc/X11/xorg.conf since that didn't work I deleted it and added it to /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/driverintel.conf

Same issue

try with no X configuration at all, and without xf86-video-intel at all and use kms instead

sopparus: note that Kea's DHCP6 server exhibits inconsistent behaviour on system start-up; it occasionally won't send any advertisements and won't reply to requests despite the log file showing everything is fine, the solution is to reload or restart it

Xorg would find it automatically ( supposedly it should )

jb1277976: I hit that the other day with a questionable cable/adapter combo where FreeBSD couldn't get a valid set of modes from the monitor. Linux has 'nomodeset' for this situation but FreeBSD struggles a bit more.

Hmm

jb1277976: There's #freebsd-xorg on EFnet where some subject matter experts hang out.

Sweet

hey, what would be the easiest way to install a headless browser and which one would it be? I see that when trying to install firefox/chrome, lots of deps are pulled in, even X... on a server jail.

chromium does have headless configure option, but i am not sure whether it is in port for it

so far I've installed firefox only, didn't even try chrome

firefox ( upstream ) has an option to build without X, assuming you woul use wayland ... speaking of headless, not sure it has one.

a way to use it in some sort of headless way is through selenium framework

that would be my goal

then, maybe invest time to learn selenium

there is a gmail abuse report form which contains loads of javascript and it scrambles the data before submitting so it can't be automated via pure python. so I figured I'd need a headless browser

Title: Selenium firefox headless - Python Tutorial

(way to go, google)

hm, there is jsdom with nodejs, might give it a try

mason: This resolved my issue forums.freebsd.org/threads/xorg-doe…t-devices-wont-load-to-screen.71134 I guess I just had to keep searching 😎

Title: Solved - Xorg doesn't detect devices, won't load to screen | The FreeBSD Forums

i need to learn how to write freebsd kernel modules

i have never written a kernel module before, not even for linux

does anyone know how to read interrupts in freebsd?

"read interrupts?"

Elaborate.

keyboard interrupts, to be precise

i saw medium.com/rossdotpink/writing-a-si…-freebsd-kernel-module-9302bd4cfae1, that was helpful

Title: Medium

but i still don't know about how to count interrupts

jb1277976: Ah, you weren't loading drm-kmod?

mason: Yep

Can anyone help me get sound working and my microphone to work to test or what not? i have snd_hda loaded and i can play sound in firefox but i would like to test my mic

jb1277976: Maybe try onlinemictest.com ?

Title: Microphone Test - Check Your Mic With Our Online Tool | OnlineMicTest

kodcode: Thanks. Trying to get sound up was writing earlier until I installed oss

Working *

Hi! Somebody have a tutorial how to make a package ports?

my tool have 1 shell script only

Hi

I'm having trouble with the ports book. Is there a tutorial that is simpler or more direct?

mbnunes: is there something in porters-handbook specifically that you don't follow?

rtprio: I already created the makefile, but I didn't find the part where I point my script to be executed

sorry for my english, using google translate

you run `make` to run the makefile, unless you're asking about how to run something else

humm

 

"The first entry in CATEGORIES should be the directory where the port lives"

mbnunes: The "physical" category, as opposed to any of the virtual categories it might also belong to

my CATEGORIES= x11

ok

i can pastebin my makefile here?

Yes

Title: PORTNAME= freebsd_desktopDISTVERSION= 1.0CATEGORIES= x11MASTE - Pastebin.com

it's my firts try to make a ports package

mbnunes: You're off to a good start, but the distfile fetching doesn't quite work like that

looks like thre's a shortcut for github

Title: Ports/SimpleGithub - FreeBSD Wiki

for that you probably want to use USE_GITHUB (distfile fetching) use NO_BUILD (you don't have anything to build) and a custom do-install (there isn't a makefile or similar with an install target in the source)

mbnunes: Something like this works: termbin.com/pkab

Next will be the do-install part as nimaje mentioned

kodcode not working at least not on two browsers. I changed the default mixer to pcm0 and mixer says there is a mic and everything there just can't verify with any other software or don't know any software that can record your voice with built in mic

thanks rtprio and vkarlsen

I'm realizing that FreeBSD isn't for the faint of heart 😬

i'm faint with worry using other things

Question i manually loaded cuse when i reboot it gets unloaded. how can i get it to start at boot ? kldload cuse works then i can run service virtual_oss start fine. it just needs to be persitant

jb1277976: kld_list in rc.conf

jb1277976: update your /boot/loader.conf with the line cuse_load="YES"

Oh, or that.

mason: which is preferred? i'm new ;]

Demosthenex: Some things want to load early, and some things choke if they load early. The package install message will likely say which this wants.

ah

Oh, is this not a port? Hrm.

Demosthenex: Ah, cuse(3) suggests your method.

np, just curious =]

i threw it in puppet and promptly forgot about it

My FreeBSD journey just begun last night but I can tell you that you learn about your system fast 😎

jb1277976: exciting :)

so verythings generally working, and youre on CURRENT now ?