AMD Ryzen 5 users? Any issues?

skered: you have to hop one one foot between the beastie logo and when init starts or it will hang

what sort of question is that

Which one? Left or right?

am i right in thinking incremental snapshots are impossible for an encrypted zfs?

or say if a zvol is made so a bhyve guest is zvol-backed. if it's say ubuntu guest and the guest "disk" is encrypted, are incremental snaps (of the zvol) impossible?

I believe the incremental backups are at the block level and work fine with encryption.

Snapshots that is...

I do them with TrueNAS between two servers

And they are encrypted.

quit

Erhard: really!

ok thats great

its unexpectedly great

skered: do VMs count?

Remilia: Most likely not. Just wondering if there's any oddities with newer AMD CPUs.

if you want oddities try new Intel CPUs with differently clocked cores

It seems there's a bit of 5 and 7 on nyc dmesg

So it seems alright.

skered: I have an AMD Ryzen 5600.

_xor: And that's running FreeBSD? 13?

Yes.

1301505

Cool. Thanks.

Anyone in here use nomad?

can usernames begin with numerals, despite the POSIX insistence to the contrary? it appears POSIX will accept this.

or

er

pw*

can usernames begin with numerals, despite the POSIX insistence to the contrary? it appears pw will accept this.

my brain doesn't want to go in gear today.

passwd(5) does not seem to say anything about restricting the starting character other than it being not "-"

posix seems to say the same?

is there way to find out what exact filesystem is on usb disk? 2048 976771087 1 linux-data (466G) in gpart. but i forgot what filesystem is there.

file -s /dev/...

or fstyp

thx!

linux rev 1.0 ext2

now need to wipe it and use zfs :)

_xor: occasionally, yes, for test/support purposes (I'm not properly an end user of NomadBSD)

A question for anyone using bhyve for graphical guests. How to make bhyve keep the mouse cursor from leaving the guest until a key combo is pressed ?

let's ask a weird question

if I ask directly you will kill me :)

let's give context first

I bought a VPS from contabo, with freebsd images, but the default install isn't a zfs root

contabo allows to reinstall manually from iso, but adding the iso costs 1,2$ per month

;-)

the only rescue iso i have are linux ones

so

is there a way to install freebsd from linux

?

Can't boot off a FreeBSD ISO?

i mean by that, - get the rootfs to unarchive it on the right zfs dataset, put the bootloader in the right place, manually put the efi file

CrtxReavr: nop

only linux

i can boot a freebsd iso, but then i need to pay

i don't want to pay

Familiar with this project?: daemonology.net/depenguinator

Title: Depenguinator

nop, reading

Basically, program runs in linux, creates a FreeBSD boot/install volume, which you reboot to.

So yeah. . . you can install FreeBSD from linux. . . sorta.

that's exactly what i need, i'm trying to understand how it works

is that working with 13.1 ?

CrtxReavr: thanks for clearing my memory block, I had it bookmarked but would never have remembered the name (or keywords)

I've done it as a test and it worked. . . never did it "for real."

CrtxReavr: you rock, thanks

Colin Percival (the author of that tool) is insanely smart.

You might need to start with a crazy old version of FreeBSD.

Title: The Depenguinator, version 2.0

Actually. . . . start with that page.

Works with FreeBSD 7.

ok

Title: GitHub - allanjude/depenguinator: Use depenguinator 3.x to overwrite a remote linux server with a FreeBSD installer

"##Warning: Still contains sharp edges, is not really for automated use. It is very likely that using this tool without understanding it will leave your server in an unbootable state."

ahahah

more and more

where is the v4.0 ?

:D

At least one step in that process came from my interactions with Colin while testing it.

so let's try with the AllanJude version first in a VM

hey but here, I want to install FreeBSD from FreeBSD

it should be even simpler

i have a freebsd install running

just that i can't boot rescue to an iso

a freebsd one i mean

if freebsd is booting why do you want to use a rescue iso?

rtprio: backlog

maybe i forgot to tell here

because the default install in not zfs rooted

"Change "7.0-RC1" to the appropriate release name"

how to get the right release name string ?

for 13.1

Bruh

after the last update - MPV got even more broken

now if you had loop forever turned on - after you SHIFT+Q and then come back - the loop is turned OFF

I mean, really - do the maintainers even test if things broke for FreeBSD (assuming it's not MPV dev's fault)?

that assumes that maintainers have infinite time

which they don't, as they're volenteers

I suppose you're correct (trying to imagine myself doing it)

PredatorONormies: also, did you consider that that's a bug or feature that the MPV authors introduced ?

sooo, say - does anyone notice bug reports if they reported in here?

as opposed to e-mail

rtprio, it's definitely a bug - it wasn't like this for years

I see no good in it so that it would be a feature

nope, file it; irc is ephemeral

AllanJude: 0x0.st/oxvJ.txt

on Debian 11

so you're missing a c compiler and other things lit looks like

how much memory does this vps have? i can't imagine zfs is much of a gain here.

yep just installed cc-tool

but missing SHILLY flags line, are strange too

and the "cannot unlink" error too

cannot stat 'mfs/usr/lib/libgnuregex*': No such file or directory

too

lets install gcc instead of cc

with gcc it fails to compile

the readme did say it had some rough edges

yep and ?

and that means you're going to have to figure it out yourself if it's important to you

how do you know that this is the meaning ?

when was the last commit to that repo?

and ?

are you trying to help ?

not sure that it is the right way too, but thanks for trying ;)

s/too/To

ok so for first errors, it seems that I'm not using bsdtar

Does anyone run a desktop installation on a 11th gen intel cpu without an additional graphics card?

> <rtprio> nope, file it; irc is ephemeral < I don't feel like it xD

maybe i could now try this : github.com/kusumi/makefs

Title: GitHub - kusumi/makefs: Create a file system image from a directory tree

instead of netbsd makefs from 2008...

apt install makefs , and it worked

BUT

my vps debian default install, doesn't use a swap partition

:')

where does freebsd installer put his logs ?

his?

eoli3n, I'm not sure it has any. Remember that writing to the install medium isn't always possible, and that until late in the install, there's nowhere else to write, because there's no file system on the installation target storage device.

I'm trying to add FreeBSD to a multiboot system. I've got a root FS untarred in a zpool, and extracted the contents of what FreeBSD usually places at /boot into /boot/freebsd13. This apparently breaks a lot of things:) I'm currently chaining from GRUB2 to loader(8) (or zfsloader, actually) and it looks like I can probably override enough settings

in loader.conf to make that work. However, I'm starting to wonder if it would be less work to have GRUB load FreeBSD's kernel directly. The caveat there is that I'm not sure what all variables/settings need to be passed to the kernel (which is why I was trying to use loader). In short, I'm here to ask if anyone can advise configuring loader(8) vs

having GRUB directly boot the kernel, or for that matter if there's a better way to do all of this.

I've used FreeBSD before but I never got as far down as mucking with the boot process, so any advice is welcome:)

Finally got that server kicked the right place to make it behave.

Be sure to make a note of that spot for the future next time.

morning

Mornin'

Looks like you are near my timezone koobs! Welcome to near +11:00 UTC!

Time is realtive, lunchtime doubly so? ;)

midnight here, half of the shift over just yet

fekk

wez: yay :)

I always assume it is the IRC convention of UGT Universal Greeting Time.

It is morning when people join and it is night when people leave. Regardless of actual timezone.

rwp: how bout night owls?

I am also a night owl. But on the Internet no one knows you are an owl. :-)

Reference: urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ugt

Title: Urban Dictionary: ugt

Note that I am neither advocating for or against it. Just that when I hear a good morning on IRC that I always assume it.

rwp: yah me too

yjftsjthsd3: no one does things the easy way anymore, eh

i've never heard of using grub to load freebsd

For me when I did multiboot I always found it sub-optimal. Because I was always in the wrong OS and needed to reboot.

These days if I need that I find virtualized machines to be a much better solution.