All Hardware Sucks. All Software Sucks.</asr>

yes

you cant avoid the computer vortex...

i

is FreeBSD opens serial console by default if I download the PI image?

this shit pi zero w dont even have HDMI I don't have that crappy plug in lcd for the gpio so won't see shit

psionic: pi zero w has mini hdmi

Did I register?

gnathat: I see you

I think they should switch from mini HDMI to mini DP, mini DP is extremely common unlike mini HDMI

How do I change the tty-console colors? Can I do that?

what's 'tty-console'?

When you log into your system it should just be the CLI. Unless you have automatic X start in your config

after you log in (locally) you get shell

the virtual TTY itself is already running

init spawns a getty process for each virtual console

If using syscons, one way is to set the colors in kernel configuration & compile+install it; there may be loader variables (see manual page for "syscons(4)" & "loader.conf(5)") to set there instead of needing to compile🤷‍♂️

parv: aye, but syscons is not technically a TTY

Remilia, In the context gnathat just wants to change the colors shown.

you have three different points at which you can attempt to change default colours, the kernel configuration for syscons or vt; the terminal emulator; the shell

if using Intel video driver you can even redefine the entire colour set with RGB tuples

I found it forums.freebsd.org/threads/vt-console-change-colors-theme.53855

Title: Solved - vt console change colors theme | The FreeBSD Forums

@VimDiesel, because I got to it first I know have to absorb you as per Highlander rules.

talking to the bot?

LOL

You can no longer FreeBSD, back to MacOS or Windows

gnathat: keep in mind that this will override the vt colour set everywhere for every user

@Remilia, I am the only user. As per highlander.

I have no idea what it means other than I guess you live in Scotland

"There can be only one"

⚡💀⚔

... uh read that in reverse order

I assume that the CI- prefix at <download.freebsd.org/snapshots> signifies continuous integration, can anyone confirm?

Title: Index of /snapshots/

In this context: not cloud image, not cloud-init … true?

grahamperrin, I believe so. IIRC, there was something about CI in a status report this year or 2021 GY.

is the piW wifi works or still doesnt?

I seriously dont want to spend 5 mins trying to find it out :D

dont have usb hub for it either no idea how to plug a keyboard in otherwise

What is "piW"?

( In any case it has been 10+ minutes 😏)

pi zero W

and update the god damn manual if the fucking shit is supported cost the table says nothing and bunch of ? ? ? ? for pi hardware no way nobody tested those

calm down, its just a piece of hardware

Hi

is there any host service like openbsd.amsterdam

Title: OpenBSD Amsterdam

but with freebsd ?

did you know that "FreeBSD - another lightweight Linux distribution approaching 30 years in development with incredible reliability and uncomplicated licensing."

from atlantic.net/vps-hosting/linux-vps-hosting

Title: Linux VPS Hosting | High-Performance, Affordable Linux Cloud Servers

:)

welcome to the Linux world Freebsd

At least they didn't make the mistake that was previously prominent at the FreeBSD home page (more than thirty)

Oh, that's still there, which is interesting, because FreeBSD has not yet celebrated its thirtieth anniversary. At least it's forward-looking :-)

*grimace* I'm not sure what bothers me more in that, "lightweight" or "Linux".

eoli3n: Many VPS hosters offer FreeBSD: Kamatera and Contabo do. Hosthatch, and I think Linode miight even.

morning

eoli3n: twitter.com/freebsdhelp/lists/freebsd-services

Title: @FreeBSDHelp/FreeBSD Services / Twitter

koobs: morning

sereg: o/~

how are you ?

excited, finally jumped over to the freebsd side

yourself?

not too bad

welcome to the community

what motivated/promoted pulling the trigger?

silly reasons (linux kernel 6.0)

had been wanting to for a while but that tipped me over

ah

anything specifically in 6.0+ ?

wanna see how rust in the kernel goes before hopping on

ah

sereg: if youre interested in those kinds of things, for what its worth: wiki.freebsd.org/Rust#Rust_in_the_FreeBSD_Kernel

Title: Rust - FreeBSD Wiki

ah thank you

welcome

parv: consider devel doesnt exist

Correction, "net/trio" should have been "net/py-trio"

mm

- Remove devel/py-trio for being a duplicate of net/py-trio added a few days ago

Jul 2020

Ha!

Title: FreshPorts -- net/py-trio: Library for async concurrency and I/O

last update sept 2022

net trio doesnt exist (freshports?)

koobs, No I had mistyped "net/py-trio"

oh

so whats is/was the issue?

you were puzzled by py-trio in 'net' instead of 'devel' ?

Just that, yes

oh

'everything is a development library'

therefore nothing is

kinda thing (gist)

Yeah, yup

Seems there is a undeclared dependency on "exceptiongroup" in trio port; error: termbin.com/q553 . Short version: install "net/py-trio"; then see if "ModuleNotFoundError" is produced by: python3.10 -mtrio -c ''

Why no sbrk on newer architectures?

I am trying to format a drive with existing data on it. The drive is not mounted as far as I can tell. I had been used as swap due to a naming change at startup, but I swapoff -a and it is notlonger being used in swapctl -l.. However, when I try gpart destroy ada0 I get device busy

Where else should I be looking?

I guess I will comment it out of fstab and reboot

But I am sure there is some better method.

Oh... Maybe it was just destroy vs. delete fist for gpart...

I was about to guess the encrypted swap layer? swap.eli? Perhaps in a mirror?

It was eli...

But... The issue was I cannot destroy until I delete.

That seems to have worked. Or maybe it was the rboot ;-)

So If I want this new drive zfs should I still use GPT?

Oh, no need.

Nice.

I probably would have suggested a "geli status" and "geli list" to see if it was encrypted swap.

Yes. For ZFS you should definitely use GPT.

I see. Like that could have still been open even after swapoff -a ?

zpool create ztank /dev/ada0

Seems to have worked without first doing aything with gpart

After dedtroying.

Is this bad?

I think so. Yes. Because that just removed the swap from your kernel. But the encryption layer from disk device swap to encrypted swap.eli would still be active.

destroying

I see. Interesting

OK. So, no I don't nee to gpart before creating the zpool

Hmm... You created a zpool on /dev/ada0? Shouldn't that have been /dev/ada0p1 or another of the partitions?

I don't know. WOuld it matter?

I don't have a lot of experience manually creating zfs

It seems to work. But I could try again on a partition

Hopefully one of the experienced hands will jump in. I am rather new to it myself.

I have been doing root-on-zfs. Which definitely needs partitions because there are other things needed such as the boot partition.

But if this is a data only disk then I think it is okay to just use the entire disk.

Though it might be considered unconventional. And I don't know what problems this creates or avoids.

Erhard: You can use the raw disk but partitions let you do things like use GPT labels, which are nice.

I'd like to be able to clone the existing boot disk to this one.

Ah, yeah, the labels are very nice.

Trying to find some info on how to make this new disk bootable and clone the xisting boot disk to it

Erhard: If it's legacy, man gpart and look at "bootcode".

Just a single disk pool ( NVME)

Erhard: If it's UEFI, you're not going to win without partitions.

The existing boot disk is zfs on an SSD

Other than the need to partition for EFI for root on ZFS, there is no pressing need to use GPT with ZFS. But it helps in that GPT use allows for labels, labels I use when creating a ZFS pool

Is this for Legacy BIOS boot or for UEFI boot?

I think this mobo will do either.

Partitions are also nice for organizing GELI.

I think the consensus is that you want GPT partitions. Don't try to avoid it. :-)

And I love GPT labels (if that was not already clear)

sO IN GPART, FOR ZFS, AM i ADD ING -T FREEBSD-UFS ?

And... You can still use GPT even if you're doing a legacy install.

oops. Sorry for caps

Erhard: freebsd-zfs exists

Ah, ok

How big do I need for freebsd-boot ?

Erhard: 512k I believe

yeah, 512K

I decided why not just run bsdinstall lol

I do.

Erhard: I do this: wiki.freebsd.org/MasonLoringBliss/ZFSandGELIbyHAND

Title: MasonLoringBliss/ZFSandGELIbyHAND - FreeBSD Wiki

Hmm. not sure I can boot off this disk

It's a PCI card to support an M.2 drive in an older mobo

Didn't show up in the bios for booting

I could see if there is a newer BIOS. I think there would be

It seems to see it as a SATA drive anyway. 6Gig. So not really getting M.2 speed

Some PCI card that came with some ASUS mobo. Spare parts stuff

Unfortunate!

Yeah

I'm going to start looking for a wifi card soon that'll power hostapd=.

hostapd*

Erhard: which one? BIOS looks for an optionrom, firmware, on the PCI <> M.2 device

Just rebooted. Let me see if I can find the info.

I can't get into the bios with the keyboard I have attached. I need to plug another one in. It's a stupid imac kbd with no del key lol

I was able to hit f8 and it didn't show up.

I suppose I can just use this M.2 for storage.

I really just want something I can serve 10Gig (well 5Gig outbound internet, so 5Gig) out with

I see ada0: <SAMSUNG MZHPU512HCGL-00004 UXM6501Q> ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device

I thought some of those PCIE M.2 cards would do actual M.2 type speeds, not a SATA device.

But this one may be crap. Like I said it came free with an older X99 mobo

Probably marketing wank so they could tick off M.2 support on the box

I found it in a drawer so thought I would give a try

Even with a real kbd and going into the bios I couldn't find anything about the M.2 card

I have the PCI device rom enabled.

For giggles I am trying a full power off reboot

Still only the internal SSD port disk shows up.

Gr.

there are sata drives with m.2 interface; are you sure it's pcie nvme drive?

Pretty sure. I windows it was not an SSD and was doing like 1 GB/sec

I think it's the stupid card

Rather than the M.2