I'm confused about the drm-kmod – how do I find out what the currently used version of DRM is? I see that there's drm-510-kmod specifically fro 5.10, but I have no idea what drm-kmod itself uses? This is especially pertinent to me as my GPU is only supported from 5.11 onwards…

mhh, i found a WIP pull request for 5.11 on the github repo of drm-kmod. guess it's not there yet.

I havent used my computer for some time and I just upgraded packages and it installed like 70 new packages, some of which all the gpu-firmare-amd-kmod*

I have an intel graphics card, why do I need these?

I tried to remove one and it was going to remove drm-kmod which I need for my intel graphics

actually, pkg installed every gpu-firmware-*

so pkg install drm-kmod installs everything now

I just built the port, hopefully it didn't install all that other crap

anyone know the EuroBSDCon streaming URL for today?

found it on the twitter twitter.com/eurobsdcon

Title: EuroBSDcon (@eurobsdcon) / Twitter

Title: EuroBSDcon (@eurobsdcon): "Thanks to heroic efforts by @BSDTV there will be streams of the talks. Track 1: Opens a webpage player: bsdtv-player.secdn.net/theatre/c726dda9-ffb0-4afa-bf71-55cfc9ab7b67 If you want to view via VLC: bsdtv-hls.secdn.net/bsdtv-channel/p…lay/input_track1.smil/playlist.m3u8"|nitter

Hello!

With ZFS, is it safe to apply a label (with glabel) to a zfs disk after it was initialised?

i.e. I've done "zpool attach tank disk"

and now I want to do "glabel label foo disk

GEOM labels can be metadata-free, which you'd need to do if there's already a partition on the disk.

the disk is not partitioned

in essence I'm asking if ZFS tolerated meta data on the last sector

I wouldn't think it'd go well.

:-(

ok

Hold up though.

Are you asking if you can add a geom label then add a zpool on top of that?

no, the other way round

the first way works of course

The first works, the second sounds like a recipe for disaster.

I'm pretty sure ZFS uses that part of the disk for its own metadata (specifically, the zpool labels).

Consult the ZFS on-disk specification :)

hm hm

Title: GitHub - ahrens/zfsondisk: OpenZFS on disk format specification

yeah ok it's no bueno

on -current, amd64, I have machine with booting problems

"module 'kernel' exists but with wrong version"

maaaaaybe I should drop the schg flag from sys/GENERIC/vers* in /usr/obj/

idwer, what is exact info loader shows?

saltd: I have footage

good, show it

loading required module 'kernel'

module 'kernel' exists but with wrong version

do you compile world/kernel yourself?

as said, this is -current

the known working build is from commit a070c11afe5990a4d60a27078263e016411602a8

ups did not mention thay, using -current on freebsd is dangerous, try to backward to stable

that*

or you can reinstall kernel from sources (if current is compilable) just do make installkernel KERNCONF=yourkernel.file

also there is some programs that can fix not bootable system, seek for it on internet

why would I do that

what you mean? if you dont need bootable system then forgot

Is there a way to define what geli that are marked with the boot flag actually ask for the passphrase yet? I have a whole bunch of geli containers and am using GPT names so it doesn't matter what order drives are actually connected in, and the boot process keeps asking me for passphrases for all the /dev/ada* devices that are equivalent to the named GPT ones, but I only have the /dev/gpt/ ones

configured and this has been a constant annoyance of mine for a decade now…

Allan: have you noticed ZFS problems on HEAD?

gogin to revert to cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=08a…0aec7b7f676ccc3f7886f59f277d668d5b4 - 1

Title: src - FreeBSD source tree

IE the commit before zfs: merge openzfs/zfs@a582d5299

do when setting up a nfs server, you need to know your client IPs in advance?

okay, odd

because it looks like when you set up an nfs mount, you need to oput the ip address of the client

best guess is that vers* needed to be recreated after an ABI bump?

CCFL_Man: see exports(5)

how to zpool import zroot of a disk from another system on a system which alseo has zroot pool. Both disks from default install, but the one to be imported needs repair

irqq: man zpool-import

-R /mnt ?

that would be a good idea

ok. On a i386 micro-pc computer I created /boot.config file with -s... -P options but after that the system does not boot. Stops at bpot: prompt. Need to rm boot.config. So, btw why that happenc

?

it is really a 386 CPU?

could be, vrotex86dx perhaps?

vortex*

which is rated i586 iirc

I have nothing useful as far as advice, but honestly Im surprised it got that far.

Can I ask why you are using that?

it has 6 serial ports

good for a console multiplexer

that's not allowed you are only allowed 4 :)

Like I said, I have nothing to offer as far as advice, but I wish you luck.

good enough

do you know what UART the ports have?

not syre

Iam not able to boot it now to see

you could look at the board...

if you were so inclined

I mean you say an i386 micropc

I assume something embedded what make/model is it

or is this something salvaged

it likely has a tech sheet with it on the appropriate site

I cant imagine a 386 being all that fast...

need a math coprocssor to support zfs ;)

its 32bit

me?

can it support zfs?

PAE to the rescue :P

Intel Atom N270 1R/2W 1,6 GHz x86

aha!

at least that was in this century

here it is: icp-deutschland.de/en/industrial-pc…-mb-s310/ecw-281b-r30-n270-1gb.html

I just said that

Title: ECW-281B-R30/N270/1GB | Industrial Computer and Components from ICP IEI

quite a pretty little box really

I quite like the industrial style units

I have some more varuous boxes like that, but more powerful, and want to use this one a a "serial console server" for them

in the old days it was only possible to have 4 'com' ports per system due to IRQ assignment

so I would assume your using rs-232/serial over usb adapters?

or do you want to talk to really old stuff via really old programs

not so really outdated. 2xqotom + NSM-SKL-6L

should have no issue

except using the correct device in your <program of choice>

One qotom serves as FTTH PPPoE router at 1Gb/s with IPTV

FTTH PPPOE is a bitch, did you also have to do dhcpv6-pd

no

IPv4

lucky you :P

and happy that I managed to run triple play on FTTH with freebsd on that, and replced isp-provided router

eh

I tried it with ppp to start with

mpd5 is far better though

bandwidth and latency wise at least

I did a bit of a cheat and used opnsense and its auto configuration then snooped its configs and migrated them to freebsd

need to play a bit more just to try other options than ppp daemon. Funny thing when speed testing from inside LAN I get full speed. But when speed testing from the router itself I get only up to 150Mbps. Maybe because of thet ppp

yeah, I followed some advices dealing with pfsense and opnsense examples on the net and step by step made it running. igmpproxy part was bit tricky

oh yeah man

mpd5 is way faster

if a bit of a bitch to get config'd

Title: dpaste/WS4aS (Plain Code)

here is mine if it helps out any in the future

'em2' in that lot us the nic attached to the adapter

s/us/is/

irqq: passing packets is far less overhead than being an endpoint of the tcp streams of those packets, but even that 941ish vs 150... ouch.

can a freebsd nfs client work with a solaris nfs server?

it should work.

nis+ aside

it should work; what are you seeing?

i have not tried it yet. i was just wondering if it should be interoperable

yes

ok. i don't see why it shouldn't be. with nfs, you need to specify hosts because there is no authentication?

I'm right in the middle of an important task and emacs won't print to pdf unless I Google for about 3h and I don't have this time today

fredi: linux user?

could anyone suggest another text editor for doing so on FreeBSD? just don't leafpad (I doubt it wrap lines around) and try not to name "fancy" editors (Atom/vscode)

CCFL_Man Linux and BSD for at least 6y now

I should go with gedit, atom and vscode feel like everything but BSD

fredi: what is wrong with joe or vim?

there is also nedit

vim do not print to pdf so easy as well

joe is a nano-like editor, isn't it?

why have you determined the problem is freebsd?

But the problem is not FreeBSD

gedit would print to pdf in 2s, CCFL_Man I'm just afraid it pulls out together the whole GNOME Shell in its dependence list

I logged in to ask here what people use to code

you use a gui?

shouldn't be a hard question considering where/who we are

CCFL_Man just when strictly needed, like right now

it's realy not clear what you are looking for: a text to pdf converter, an editor or something else?

like I said, I'm in a kind of a hurry... so I'll try gedit and that'll be it, provided GNOME ain't coming along by the tow

satanist a text to pdf converter obviously work, but lots of (common) editors just do it

however, I don't recall ever seeing a plaintext-to-pdf converter (but thanks, it's a nice idea)

thaat's it...

thanks anyway

P.S.: CCFL_Man I just opened a text file with vim and have no clue about how to even start "printing"

neither do i

I can do the basics, the very basics only

linux has kept you back?

Not wanting to raise and old argument, I was just used to emacs

CCFL_Man yes

For exactly this work, that I just printed to a pdf, I was kept by (K)Ubuntu for a while now

I had several issues, personal and things like pandemics (which made my college freeze in time)

ubuntu is the biggest steaming pile of all of linux

But then, THEN, finally, I'm as close to the end I could get rid of that crap, and didn't even wait the last 2 months when had about a GiB left in my disk, and dealt with that for about a month

the crap on your disk is ubuntu

then, I noticed content of $HOME/snap ain't the same of snap info, and there were folder for uninstalled, deprecated, and even things I'd never installed by snap

df output also has about 48 squashfs related to snap

I've gone to a forum and voiced my complaint, but it seems Canonical is a demi-goddess and I was blapheming

Then I got back here, where do I belong (well, I like Solaris too)

the crap on your disk is ubuntu <--- CCFL_Man was (past tense)

yeah, but you should be a regular bsd/unix user, not a regular linux user

(lack of)money-stranded, I had no funds for even an extra HD

but like I said, I once had a three-boot with Windows, Arch and FreeBSD

just this particular work (which is the final work for me to graduate in CS) had me prioritize (K)Ubuntu long since

but it's over now

Ubuntu and the snaps are unbelieavable as a professional shit, and these days even Arch Linux is systemd-stained

There's always Gentoo, I suppose. For when I have a desktop powerful enough to compile everything I'll need.

I don't think I'll have a need for Linux in the future anyway

And even among the BSDs, I feel just we and De Raadt people are fin

But using OpenBSD means to comply with their philosophy clearly stating security as priority one

This program is running inside a jail and needs another to get internet. what else one would need?

pf and ipfw

time is running, have to go

CCFL_Man thanks again, bye

What's the preferred way of keeping time? ntpdate or ntpd?

meena: ntpd, according to the ntpdate(8) man page.

Title: Bug #1990041 “cc_ntp: please add support for *BSD” : Bugs : cloud-init

what's the status of WireGuard in FreeBSD?

i know it was ripped from base…

is the thing in ports functional?

yes

it's our intention to re-land it "soon"

kevans: just wondering if i should invest time into this cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/modules.html#wireguard

Title: Module Reference — cloud-init 22.3 documentation

i should probz also add a module to add pkg repos.

oh great, i totally forgot about bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1901915

Title: Bug #1901915 “FreeBSD: Add certctl support to cc_ca_certs” : Bugs : cloud-init

why is there no man page for pkg's repo format?

oh, there is

Title: Bug #1990042 “FreeBSD add module to manage pkg repositories” : Bugs : cloud-init

i think that's enough for tonight.

yeah

(o′┏▽┓｀o)

okay then

meena: ah, I don't see any reason not to (re: wg)