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CrtxReavrWhen can we expect a package for php 8.4.27?
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bdreweryCrtxReavr: which branch/arch/release?
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bdrewerythese are still going
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CrtxReavr14.4-RELEASE-p4
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CrtxReavramd64
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bdrewerywe need poudriere/pkgs/ports architectural improvements to speed this all up
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bdrewerywhich is hard to do as a volunteer
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PsciCOdeliXHAtyes it is.
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PsciCOdeliXHAtBut now with IA might speed it up. dont you think?
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bdreweryI made a poor call on 144amd64-default and 151amd64-quarterly. I should have done the php-only build first but I skipped them as other security fixes were piling up and these sets were already behind. At the rate they are going it could be another 12 hours.
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CrtxReavrAI code audits are causing a firestorm.
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bdreweryswitching these now to php-only might take 3-4 hours to build instead and be worth putting out the fire
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CrtxReavrThen will come the AI code audits of AI-vibed "fixes."
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bdrewerybut then the current builds will have to start over as this version of poudriere isn't doing resume correctly
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bdreweryI do think AI could help fix some of the resource scheduling problems with poudriere but it won't fix the problems with packages/ports metadata. We would still need to rebuild excessively.
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CrtxReavrI personally don't rely on much PHP. . . I currently have all my php scripts chmod'd 600.
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CrtxReavrbdrewery, this web page is mesmerizing.
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CrtxReavrSwift has been building for 17.25 hours. . .
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CrtxReavrWhen your programming language is too complex.
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spork_css_crazy question, but in a situation like this, what prevents manual intervention?
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spork_css_Meaning, php builds in minutes, what stops someone from building it... somewhere trusted and putting that pkg into the actual repo?
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spork_css_Also kind of interesting to see the number of people here and elsewhere noting they don't use much PHP, but man outside the "professional developer" bubble, it is really everywhere...
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rtprioglad i don't work at a php shop this week
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rtprioor ever, really, but especially this week
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CrtxReavrI use a couple apps personally, but nothing critical. . . just waiting on the updated packages.
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bdreweryspork_css_: I did do that exact thing for some of the builds yesterday. It still took 3-8 hours due to how the dependencies work. I opted to not do it for these 2 builds still going as they were still on the Monday build and falling too far behind. Probably a mistake.
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bdreweryIf it wasn't clear I'm the one driving the freebsd.org builds this week. Doing what I can to get them done.
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bdrewerychromium and electron are the biggest problems here and I can't wrap my head around how to solve it going forward.
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mcraneAnyone know when the php security fixes will be available?
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bdrewerymcrane: these are the remaining builds (excluding 16-CURRENT):
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mcranebdrewery: does that meant is likely to be available in the next 12 to 24 hours?
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mcranemean...
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bdreweryyes
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mcrane+1
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mcraneThanks I appreciate it
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bdreweryfunny thing is I'm of the mind that the package should have been available within an hour of the patch being released. Too many ports to deal with.
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bdrewerywe can't simply build _just php_ due to how the pkg dependencies work, inability to have multiple versions of dependencies installed
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mcraneI want to get the update on my website
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bdreweryyeah I can imagine how annoying it is to have sites down waiting on this
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bdreweryI had mine shutdown for 12 hours waiting for the port to be updated and built my own packages from it
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bdrewerythe port was updated fast at least
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mcraneyes that is good
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mcranebdrewery: how long does a build world usually take on these servers?
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mcraneI'm understanding it better now reading the links that were shared
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bdrewerymcrane: buildworld, not sure as it is doing incremental. Last one: >>> World built in 92 seconds, ncpu: 96, make -j96
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lluawhat state is `connec'? connect?
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LxGHTNxNGi'm not stupid enough to think what i want to do has a remote chance of working: if i forward a GPU to a VM, can the VM be rebooted and the driver reloaded and have the GPU work again a second time?
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qoreQyaSLxGHTNxNG: define "remote chance". IMHO, if the GPU is forwarded exclusive, why not? also: "work again"? whats the problem?
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LxGHTNxNGif i was to reboot the vm
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LxGHTNxNGwould it be able to use the gpu after rebooting or is that borked
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qoreQyaSthis depends on a lot of unknown factors
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LxGHTNxNGright
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LxGHTNxNGi guess the only way to find out is to try it.
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LxGHTNxNGi hate the idea of having to debug hardware i have roughly zero visibility into
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netbillyHello #FreeBSD =]
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netbillyWhy is there no PHP 8.3.36 for 15.1-RELEASE-p5, but it exists for 14.3-RELEASE-p16 ?
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qoreQyaSi guess its because of build foo. but idk, i asked if there are logs accesible for build foo in #pkg
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netbillyDo I wait for a patch for 15.1, or rollback to 14.3 ? I want to patch this PHP thing before it ruins my weekend.
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qoreQyaSi moved all php foo to wireguard(VPN) only (on debian though). if this is an option you could do it
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qoreQyaSi followed docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/…s/#ports-using-installation-methods and try to build the port. its trying to build 8.3.36. error: py312-setuptools-63.1.0_3 has known vulns:...
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netbillyat least my important stuff runs on 14.3. I only upgraded an internal machine to 15.1 as a test, so I might be OK. Thanks qoreQyaS
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qoreQyaSTHIMC: wiki.freebsd.org/IRC/Channels i just received several 503 bad gw errors. its working now
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qoreQyaStrying to build with DISABLE_VULN=yes rn. seems to be working (not done yet_
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qoreQyaSs/et_/et)/
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tm512recently been noticing an issue where my laptop won't resume from suspend properly, seemingly at random, after running package updates a few days ago
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tm512it seems to be waking up but the screen won't turn on
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netbillytm512: How is it to run freebsd on a laptop? I last tried that over 5 years ago. The print spooler kept dying so I moved to Mint. Still on Mint. :)
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tm512specifically just updated packages, not the base system or DRM drivers
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qoreQyaStm512: i don't know which specifically src, but did u have a look at logs in /var/log?
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qoreQyaSs/src/sry/
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tm512netbilly: it's generally okay. the issues I have run into have been with wifi and GPU drivers which isn't specifically a laptop thing
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tm512qoreQyaS: I'm not seeing any signs that the OS actually tried to resume from suspend in /var/log/messages. the next thing after the suspend message is the kernel boot messages
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tm512meh, I hope this isn't a hardware issue
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qoreQyaShmmm... what happens exactly? you put pc into suspend. then it seems to be in suspend (LED status of hw/power consumption PSU). when u switch it back on it boots direclty into bios->bootloader->fbsd?
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tm512it suspends normally, but when it tries to resume, like half of the time the fans just spin up but the screen doesn't come back on. I have to force power off and reboot
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tm512it's pretty annoying
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qoreQyaS.oO(building php83 on a vm in virtualbox feels like installing gentoo on a rapsberry pi)
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qoreQyaSto exclude hw issues i suggest booting some live os
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tm512I hope it's not a RAM issue. setting aside the issue with RAM prices, the majority of the RAM in this machine is soldered to the mobo
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qoreQyaSmemtest86
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tm512I feel like I'd notice more than the machine failing to resume from suspend if I had faulty RAM in here though
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netbillytm512: I agree with qoreQyaS. Boot Mint from memstick and test to see if its hardware.
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tm512yeah, I could try Linux. I've got a ventoy drive laying around that should have a Void Linux liveUSB image on it. it's gonna have to wait until the next time I'm forced to shutdown though
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tm512I might also make sure my UEFI is fully up to date in case there's some ACPI bug that's only now getting triggered for some reason
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LxGHTNxNGlinux is not a remotely serious workstation OS...
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qoreQyaS.oO(its only about testing hw, relax :p )
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ltsAFAIK Linux is actually the by-far-most-common OS for HPC workstations :-)
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qoreQyaSa million flies...
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KostonqoreQyaS: services under freebsd.org domain have lately had recurring issues
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Kostonseemed like something to do with load balancing breaking TLS, but I didn't bother looking more closely
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