I promise this isn't just being edgy - what happens if enough people say "uh... no"

wavefunction: i know the california bill is only for systems with "app stores" so i suspect quite a few will get a pass

I have a freshly (as of ~1 hour ago) installed 15.0-RELEASE. It seemed to go fine, but now pkg only sees a tiny subset of packages. Basic things like xorg and sudo are missing.

This might be my first time with pkgbase; is that related?

(This is the system that had the bizarre keyboard input issues under X11 last week; I decided to wipe it and start from scratch.)

anth, xorg and sudo are in ports not base so should be unrelated to pkgbase. Probably they are recent build failure. Check their build status. freshports.org/security/sudo

rwp: but every package I can think to check is missing. Pretty sure it’s a broader issue, like it doesn’t know where to look.

But does using pkg base require some sort of “switch back to normal” to make “pkg install sudo” (or whatever, sudo is just an example) work?

Oka,

After install I have a /usr/local/etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf that enables -base but doesn’t mention anything else. That seems wrong.

Oh wait, that’s just an override. That’s okay.

switch back to normal?

they are all packages

Yeah, I was thinking it might need to switch repos or such.

can have multiple at same time

But I got it now. *another* ‘update -f’ got the expected set back.

back?

was it pkg v2.6.0?

As in they show up in a search now.

fancy bug lately

2.5.1

delete -f removes too much

hmm

yeah skip 2.6.0

might not have affected you but

that magically happened

only pkg was supposed to be deleted there

Wtf. Now the kernel crashed while pkg was trying to install perl, and the ufs is currupted such that fsck can’t recover it.

This thing’s a few hours old and already too screwy. I’m wiping it and trying again.

anth: Questionable hardware maybe? Bad connections?

The thing (an Intel nuc) has been sitting on a shelf for a couple years, but was reliable before that. Who knows.

Our network connection is definitely flaky; my suspicion for the earlier pkg weirdness is that some connection gotten dropped at an odd time and pkg didn’t handle it properly. But I can’t prove that. And it certainly doesn’t explain the kernel panic.

It might be worth taking everything apart and re-seating everything.

Well that’s “fun”. Reinstalled, went fine. Reboot, log in, ‘pkg install (several thing)”, zfs panics while pkg is extracting things.

System won’t come up, drops to mountroot> prompt.

Bah. Enough ghost for today, this will have to wait.

specialbomb: \o Let's see what's going to happen.

ugh, ok ok. installing a linux (alpine) vm in bhyve to run dockerd

gave up on podman

horray

anth: That sounds like bad RAM maybe. It's worth doing a memory check. I can imagine a flaky network also being a problem, but the panic sounds like memory.

hrm, anyone know if freebsd's java will support the newer garbage collectors soon?

as i recall last i checked, linux and windoze had the latest GC, but freebsd did not

i see the zgc files in openjdk24 and openjdk25, but java won't let me use them. arg.

cgit.freebsd.org/ports/tree/sysutils/mise for aarch64 is no longer available (it was a few days ago), the x86_64 version is available. Any idea why? Thansk!

aus, portsfallout.com/port/35724

version 2026.2.21 fails to build on 143arm64, it may be due to this.

also there is package availability chart on freshports: freshports.org/sysutils/mise

thanks!

you're welcome

Demosthenex, java collect thyself!

I've been trying to reach cgit maintainers about a crash bug but didn't have luck

and i notice now in your conversation you use cgit too. I would recommend blocking qt=grep feature until they fix it: cgit.freebsd.org/ports/log/?q=1%27)…))),0x7e))+AND+%271%27=%271&qt=grep

CrtxReavr: indeed, java parameters and options are black magic, the darkest of voodoo. right behind windoze GPO's

Demosthenex, I've always hated java from a sysadmin perspective.

Supporting software in an ecosystem that brings its own timekeeping and name lookups, separarate from the OS is insane!

yeah. to be fair though, the jvm is quite good, it's just most java software is quite bad ;]

i'm always impressed at jvm including an optionally network enabled full real time profiling engine

i've often wanted to learn Clojure, but i just can't stomache java :P and the one file per function nonsense, arg.

32 pages of code, 18 subdirs, 42 files and 3 hours of jenkins time later, out pops hello world!

Clojure is quite nice, if it's already established that you're in JVM land

if you use haproxy in front of cgit.freebsd.org maybe something like this: http-request set-query %[query,regsub(qt=grep,qt=grepz,g)]

it will stop cgit process from crashing when AI bots and scrapers hit it qith qt=grep request

where is the kde meta package?

pkg says its not found

bz: Might want to toggle your pkg archive over from quarterly to latest and see if that makes kde pop up for you

I don't see it either, and I use latest

yeah its not in latest either

Time to run 'make' and start the Easter holiday early

or install a different os

plasma6-plasma is also missing

Hrm. plasma6-plasma seems to exist on all my FBSD pkg repos.

pkg search plasma6-plasma-6 ──(Thu,Mar05)─┘

plasma6-plasma-6.5.5 KDE Plasma 6 Desktop (meta port)

What version of FBSD?

do i want to run icinga daemon and puppet in my jails

cons: that could be a bit of overhead. monitoring from the outside somewhat 'pollutes' the host.

pros: congruent with the other hosts