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mason
rtj: What's "qsy" mean? ENOPARSE
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rtprio
ham radio q codes
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rtprio
"change frequency"
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mason
Ah, thank you.
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AumShivaya
What is better these days? Ubuntu base or Linuxulator?
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ivy
AumShivaya: do you mean Ubuntu or the Rocky Linux packages from port? "Linuxulator" just refers to the Linux binary compatibility, which you always use when running Linux binaries regardless of distribution
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AumShivaya
ok
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AumShivaya
I am wondering whether to use Rocky Linux packages or try and get Ubuntu running which I installed under 14.0
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AumShivaya
probably very out of date
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ivy
i think that depends on what you're trying to run... Rocky is better tested/supported with Linux emulation, but the selection of packages is limited and compatibility with third-party Linux software might be worse
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ivy
especially if you're trying to run closed-source software, Ubuntu is often the only supported distribution, so you don't really have a choice
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AumShivaya
What is Rocky anyway?
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AumShivaya
I want to try Steam
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AumShivaya
Don't know what I am expecting
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ivy
Rocky Linux is a rebuild of RedHat Enterprise Linux, it replaces CentOS which used to do the same thing but was killed by RedHat. if you want Steam, i think there's already a Steam port that handles all this for you?
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AumShivaya
Thanks, I shall look into it
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ivy
i've never used it so i'm not sure what the port is called, but i remember it existing...
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AumShivaya
yeah, I think it's steam-linux-utils or something
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AumShivaya
linux-steam-utils
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AumShivaya
rather
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AumShivaya
It drags in Rocky
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AumShivaya
Hmm so I guess I can nuke my other linux compats so they don't collide
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ivy
iirc, Steam includes its own Ubuntu-based compat layer when it runs on other platforms
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crb
if I install openJDK do I also need to install the JRE or is openJDK as super set of the JRE such that it include the JRE + the have compiler and tools?
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ridcully
crb: jdk is everything. you don't need the jre then
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agent314
instructions on how to configure&setup freebsd unclear; did two weeks in county jail -- did not help my networking situation at all
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o0x1eef
welcome to jid 0.
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nmz
procfs is deprecated?
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nmz
why?
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nulltaz
Quick question. When reading about PF, there is a disclaimer in the FreeBSD handbook that says:
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nulltaz
“When reading the PF FAQ, keep in mind that FreeBSD’s version of PF has diverged substantially from the upstream OpenBSD version over the years. Not all features work the same way on FreeBSD as they do in OpenBSD and vice versa.”
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nulltaz
Does this mean that OpenBSD’s documentation won’t be helpful for learning PF on FreeBSD?
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nulltaz
Or is FreeBSD’s ported version pretty much the same?
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rtprio
most of the openbsd documentation will be helpful
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rtprio
but both have added features /changes since they diverged
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o0x1eef
I learned pf on openbsd and everything I learnt carried over to freebsd but im not doing anything that complex with it
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nulltaz
Okay, good to know. Thanks guys. I won’t be doing anything crazy either. Appreciate the insights.
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nimaje
crb: the jdk/jre seperation was abandoned years ago, but jdk was always everything
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nimaje
nmz: because libprocstat(3) and kvm(3) are better interfaces to get that information
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nmz
So you need to compile/use C just to get a curproc?
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nmz
that's ludicrous
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nimaje
hm, where do you want to access it and don't have some form of cffi?
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moviuro
Can someone on 15.x please test the following? I'm on 14.3 so maybe it was fixed. In a jail, mkdir -p /etc/rc.conf.d; echo 'syslogd_flags="-ssc"' > /etc/rc.conf.d/syslogd; # reboot the jail #; #ps auxww|grep syslogd # should return /usr/sbin/syslogd -ssc #sysrc syslogd_flags # returns syslogd_flags: -s on 14.3 (which is wrong)
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nmz
nimaje: shellscript?