sooo firefox just locked up my entire computer again

AmyMalik it locked up the enter northern american continent by using DoH, so that's not news :P the real question is: why?

antranigv, you are clearly just trolling

AmyMalik sorry, had a bad day with Firefox myself

I refuse to believe you don't know what «lock up» means

(spent 2 hours debugging DNS issues while the root cause was Mozilla enabling DoH without asking me)

In this case, there was some kind of ¿livelock involving bumping its head against 12GB of RAM when loading somebody's "beautiful" (piss off.) WordPress site

damn. I did not expect that to happen in 2026. care to share the link? I wanna try it in Safari and in Unix WebKit to see if I get something similar.

The result was that my entire X session became unresponsive. As I don't have swap, the system, which wanted to be swapping, had nowhere to swap to.

You'd need to already be in a state of near RAM exhaustion without a swap drive to hit the problem

and with ZFS, probably, I must add.

ah yes, burning the candle from both sides does not help.

The website that gave me grief was israellai.com , the website of a moderately notable Internet polyglot. The Mac, if so resource constrained, would most likely kill the entire browser before locking up.

how much ram do you have?

on this computer, 12 GB.

That web site didn't consume ram for me so much as it consumed all 8 cpu cores solid for half a minute after loading that page. I suspect that the WP plugins were many and each loaded up a bunch of Javascript which then needed to do something stupid for all of that time. Big impulse spike.

Cripes.

How much RAM did your browser allocate?

What's a good way to tell? I will load it again.

If you wanted to check, you could run the browser in a jail, and cmdwatch rctl -hu jail:[the jail's name]

(assuming you have cmdwatch installed)

I don't have things set up to run the browser in a jail. But a different way looking says that the browser allocated 3.4GB of RAM upon loading that page. Wow!

I have 32GB of RAM in my FreeBSD desktop loading it with Firefox.

3.4GB of RAM to load a web page? That's truly an affront to good sense!

rwp: they might be trying to do distributed cluster computing with whatever embedded in the js

cold weather

just curious why isn't doas in base? :)

redundancy, probably

it does essentially the same task as `su`

anyone else experiencing pkg problems with 15.0-RELEASE?

jpb, Describe the problem you're facing fully please.

pkg search zip returns nothing, $? == 1. yes, i have connectivity to the internet.

jpb: pkg update first

bah I should update to 15.0-RELEASE

AmyMalik: doas is not the same as su. su doesn't have the 'nopass' option ;)

but su can do enought, if you want sudo or doas you can install it from ports, or are you saying ports shouldn't exist and everything there should be imported in base?

SchleimKeim: FreeBSD-ports repository is up to date ... FreeBSD-ports-kmods repository is up to date.

is 'pkg' aliased in your shell or something?

jpb: what happens if you do: pkg rquery '%o'

no, fresh install on qemu 10.2.0. everything else works fine. just can't seem to see pkgs

pkg rquery '%o' returns a long list of kmods

uname -a

it sounds stupid, but

FreeBSD external2 15.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 15.0-RELEASE releng/15.0-n280995-7aedc8de6446 GENERIC amd64

hm, if it only lists kmods, it seems like the FreeBSD-ports-kmods repo works for you but the FreeBSD-ports doesn't; you didn't change any pkg config files?

fresh install, but i will reinstall and report back.

i also ran pkg -d search zip. everything looked good, the connections were ok, just nothing returned.

i like running pkg install zip first thing as zip has no dependencies

i had some problems like that once and ultimately there's some cache directory under /var or so, like dpkg on debian

seemingly parts of it got corrupted

not cache I meant to write metadata

y

sorry, wrong window

ok, fresh install, and pkg is working fine. pkg install zip works.

dunno what that blip was...

hm, pkg upgrade -f on the old install?

lol - yes, zip, you are installed.

as tar has no problem handling zips, I don't install zip on my systems

right. i use pkg install zip to both update pkg and install one package so i know everything works.

but no idea how something should become corrupted on the first pkg install

maybe some blip on the remote side

possible. well, seems to be working for now.

it's a hello world, eh?

On some systems, I'll install pigz - basically a multi-threaded gzip - much faster when dealing with large .gz files.

o/ ello

I know this is arbitrary but can someone donate me money for my school fundraiser online for sour worms

hey can anyone tell me if/when wow64 support will be enabled in wine? wine_devel 11.0 doesn't seem to have it

i.ibb.co/vCBdpCGS/IMG-20260127-163536962.jpg <-- pan cake. currently making.

instagram.com/p/DUCAsFNjgJ2/?utm_so…web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== OR if instagram doesn't work for you: i.ibb.co/vxKdgcjW/IMG-20260127-174247397.jpg

multithreaded gzip called pigz... lol! race condition on naming on naming is clever to me