04:35:25 sooo firefox just locked up my entire computer again 04:45:04 AmyMalik it locked up the enter northern american continent by using DoH, so that's not news :P the real question is: why? 04:45:22 antranigv, you are clearly just trolling 04:45:35 AmyMalik sorry, had a bad day with Firefox myself 04:45:40 I refuse to believe you don't know what «lock up» means 04:46:10 (spent 2 hours debugging DNS issues while the root cause was Mozilla enabling DoH without asking me) 04:46:26 In this case, there was some kind of ¿livelock involving bumping its head against 12GB of RAM when loading somebody's "beautiful" (piss off.) WordPress site 04:47:28 damn. I did not expect that to happen in 2026. care to share the link? I wanna try it in Safari and in Unix WebKit to see if I get something similar. 04:47:53 The result was that my entire X session became unresponsive. As I don't have swap, the system, which wanted to be swapping, had nowhere to swap to. 04:48:19 You'd need to already be in a state of near RAM exhaustion without a swap drive to hit the problem 04:49:28 and with ZFS, probably, I must add. 04:50:41 ah yes, burning the candle from both sides does not help. 04:52:06 The website that gave me grief was https://israellai.com/ , the website of a moderately notable Internet polyglot. The Mac, if so resource constrained, would most likely kill the entire browser before locking up. 05:43:54 how much ram do you have? 05:52:37 on this computer, 12 GB. 06:12:19 That web site didn't consume ram for me so much as it consumed all 8 cpu cores solid for half a minute after loading that page. I suspect that the WP plugins were many and each loaded up a bunch of Javascript which then needed to do something stupid for all of that time. Big impulse spike. 06:21:04 Cripes. 06:21:17 How much RAM did your browser allocate? 06:21:37 What's a good way to tell? I will load it again. 06:31:35 If you wanted to check, you could run the browser in a jail, and cmdwatch rctl -hu jail:[the jail's name] 06:31:40 (assuming you have cmdwatch installed) 06:32:53 I don't have things set up to run the browser in a jail. But a different way looking says that the browser allocated 3.4GB of RAM upon loading that page. Wow! 06:33:13 I have 32GB of RAM in my FreeBSD desktop loading it with Firefox. 06:34:18 3.4GB of RAM to load a web page? That's truly an affront to good sense! 06:51:10 rwp: they might be trying to do distributed cluster computing with whatever embedded in the js 10:16:01 cold weather 11:05:48 just curious why isn't doas in base? :) 11:08:26 redundancy, probably 11:08:32 it does essentially the same task as `su` 13:23:44 anyone else experiencing pkg problems with 15.0-RELEASE? 13:24:43 jpb, Describe the problem you're facing fully please. 13:26:47 pkg search zip returns nothing, $? == 1. yes, i have connectivity to the internet. 13:27:40 jpb: pkg update first 13:29:26 bah I should update to 15.0-RELEASE 13:29:29 AmyMalik: doas is not the same as su. su doesn't have the 'nopass' option ;) 13:31:27 but su can do enought, if you want sudo or doas you can install it from ports, or are you saying ports shouldn't exist and everything there should be imported in base? 13:33:10 SchleimKeim: FreeBSD-ports repository is up to date ... FreeBSD-ports-kmods repository is up to date. 13:39:43 is 'pkg' aliased in your shell or something? 13:41:21 jpb: what happens if you do: pkg rquery '%o' 13:42:33 no, fresh install on qemu 10.2.0. everything else works fine. just can't seem to see pkgs 13:43:10 pkg rquery '%o' returns a long list of kmods 13:43:52 uname -a 13:44:12 it sounds stupid, but 13:46:39 FreeBSD external2 15.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 15.0-RELEASE releng/15.0-n280995-7aedc8de6446 GENERIC amd64 13:46:47 hm, if it only lists kmods, it seems like the FreeBSD-ports-kmods repo works for you but the FreeBSD-ports doesn't; you didn't change any pkg config files? 13:47:15 fresh install, but i will reinstall and report back. 13:49:17 i also ran pkg -d search zip. everything looked good, the connections were ok, just nothing returned. 13:49:44 i like running pkg install zip first thing as zip has no dependencies 14:09:54 i had some problems like that once and ultimately there's some cache directory under /var or so, like dpkg on debian 14:10:03 seemingly parts of it got corrupted 14:10:42 not cache I meant to write metadata 14:11:17 y 14:11:29 sorry, wrong window 14:13:10 ok, fresh install, and pkg is working fine. pkg install zip works. 14:13:27 dunno what that blip was... 14:13:51 * zip is pkg installed 14:14:32 hm, pkg upgrade -f on the old install? 14:14:41 lol - yes, zip, you are installed. 14:16:38 as tar has no problem handling zips, I don't install zip on my systems 14:19:27 right. i use pkg install zip to both update pkg and install one package so i know everything works. 14:26:28 but no idea how something should become corrupted on the first pkg install 14:27:18 maybe some blip on the remote side 14:27:43 possible. well, seems to be working for now. 14:55:50 it's a hello world, eh? 18:18:03 On some systems, I'll install pigz - basically a multi-threaded gzip - much faster when dealing with large .gz files. 18:59:11 o/ ello 19:03:27 I know this is arbitrary but can someone donate me money for my school fundraiser online for sour worms 19:39:24 hey can anyone tell me if/when wow64 support will be enabled in wine? wine_devel 11.0 doesn't seem to have it 21:41:16 https://i.ibb.co/vCBdpCGS/IMG-20260127-163536962.jpg <-- pan cake. currently making. 22:54:34 https://www.instagram.com/p/DUCAsFNjgJ2/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== OR if instagram doesn't work for you: https://i.ibb.co/vxKdgcjW/IMG-20260127-174247397.jpg 23:32:44 multithreaded gzip called pigz... lol! race condition on naming on naming is clever to me