is there active work to improve the linux jail compatibility?

duskmoss: What do you mean by "linux jail"?

As in, linux compat inside a jail?

yes, as the handbook uses the term

I guess to expand, linux compat inside a jail that then runs a linux distro userland

duskmoss: What isn't working for you? Last I checked, a "Linuxulator" jail stuff worked fine?

Granted, I don't use anything like that very often (I only tested it.) But it did work for what I needed/tested.

I'm not crazy familiar with Linux emulation on FBSD.

there's not really much in the way of active work happening on the linuxolator as far as i'm aware, mostly maintenance stuff and kinda low-hanging fruit for things we were adding to freebsd anyways (e.g., native inotify)

if i want to create a new user and provide its home dir myself (so it already has the dirs and files how the user wants them rather than the default skeletons) i just pass -d to pw instead of -m or -M right?

i want to do it that way so i don't have to create with defaults using -m/-M, then copy user's dirs and files in, THEN delete the dirs we don't use like .cshrc

What is the status of Intel graphics card on FreeBSD

kevans: thanks, thats exactly what I was wondering about

kerneldove: If you're using "pw useradd", as long as you exclude "-m", it shouldn't add any skel files.

Maybe "-dM" at the most. Might not even need that.

i was surprised to see the status report mention a project for the reverse, when I know people used to be realy hyped about the potential of just running containers from docker hub on fbsd. so just wondering

duskmoss: the bsd-user 4 linux project?

A few test runs with different pw options would completely answer the question of what it does with different options. It's the only way to be sure.

ya i was also curious how others do it tho. like add user with -m/-M to get skeleton files, then copy in user files and make other changes, or add user with -d and provide whole home dir that no skeleton files/dirs are added to

I normally use "adduser" which is a wrapper script around all of the things that it does.

Same. I use both adduser and pw to create users, but I always (aside from special cases) create the homedir along with the skel files.

why?

duckworld: oh, you'll note that it calls out Github Actions in that work. that's actually a pretty big deal and an excellent reason to want this

er

duskmoss: ^

kerneldove: Because most users will benefit from the skel files. If the user being created doesn't require a login shell or anything, I'll skip it.

well i use login shells but i have my own paired down generic user home

kerneldove: Okay. That's fine.

kerneldove: Are you saying you want to use different skel files or none at all when you create a user?

s/user/user's homedir/

just wanna use my own standard home dir. i guess some of that could be considered my own skeleton (common) files

kerneldove: Have you looed at the -k arg?

looked*

hm ya that's interesting

-k says it's useful with -m and -d. i get how it's used with -m but how's it useful with -d? -d points home at an existing dir, so how would -k skeleton files come into play?

oh kevans I wasn't trying to denigrate the project at all, It just surprised me!

looks like by default user home dirs are created with 755. any prob making it 750 so ppl who don't share group can't snoop on file and dir names?

kerneldove: `/etc/pw.conf` (`man 5 pw.conf`) might be useful too.

I might as well mention that the `mount += "..."` setting for jails is useful even for thick jails, if you like to have a readonly directory with shared files that you just symlink to.

s/symlink/symlink or refer to/

what's point of pw.conf man page dango?

To set your defaults, if you find yourself often customizing new users after creation.. I guess

ya but what do you guys think about making user home dir 750?

but the question was if it would make problems, which I guess it does not, at least I don't know of anything that would need 755 home dirs, except maybe if you want to configure a webserver to serve a ~/public_html directory for each user on the system, but probably I would give each user a directory under some web root instead, so that the webserver wouldn't need to look into /usr/home/

'pkg version -vRL=' gives 'drm-61-kmod-6.1.128.1403000_5 > succeeds remote (remote has 6.1.128.1402000_5)'

But 'pkg search drm-61-kmod' gives 'drm-61-kmod-6.1.128.1403000_5'

So, is pkg version not usin the kmods repo?

I set 'priority: 10' on the FreeBSD-kmods repo, that seems to work. Should tidy up the weekly mail.

f1c4c3daccbaf3820f0e2224de53df12fc952fcc introduced a filename with a space to head.

wtf

My life is ruined.

well why include a space it's never necessary

It is from an import. tests in MIT kerberos.

well, I would say, that software shouldn't have problems with spaces in filenames, but I know that make has them anyway and many sh dialects make proper handling of spaces in filenames annoying

can't the test's filename be changed to strip the whitespace?

Looks like the offending file is only pulled in via shell glob anyway. That would make it trivial.