what do they not do that you'd add if you had time?

kerneldove: literally anything

like, what do you think you gain from svcj as currently implemented?

sure, a process in an svcj is running in a jail, but it can still edit /root/.shrc and install bad code next time you log in

fucking git:

2!tansy ~/src/bsd/gcc [lf/dev/krb5-gcc]% git switch main

fatal: 'main' is already used by worktree at '/home/ivy/src/bsd/main'

yes, i know it's already used, i want two worktrees on the same branch...

ah ya that's not good

is it good practice for each jail to also have a dedicated user so it can be ssh'd into?

that's up to you, you can connect to any jail from the host using jexec so there's no need for ssh at all

ya that's true

ty

i've set up vnet thick jails on zfs. now i wanna try setting up thin jails on zfs reusing the base system's files and no vnet. any advice?

(i read the whole handbook chapter and man pages ofc)

how is the gcc build broken today?

{standard input}: Assembler messages:

{standard input}:157450: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted

{standard input}:159036: Error: number of operands mismatch for `lea'

{standard input}: Error: open CFI at the end of file; missing .cfi_endproc directive

x86_64-unknown-freebsd15.0-g++14: fatal error: Killed signal terminated program cc1plus

fun new kernel message: pid 83878 (cc1plus), jid 0, uid 1001, was killed: a thread waited too long to allocate a page

i got an empty 14.3 vm now time to figure out how to make a thin jail

hello, anyone have experience using xrdp and the startwm.sh in their local directory? I am following some instructions, that if i create a startwm.sh in my home directory.. and remote into it, it should load the program for X11.. but when I login i just get a black screen

if i remove the ~/startwm.sh it goes to /usr/local/etc/xrdp/startwm.sh and runs the exec xterm command.. and the comments says.. to make a ~/startwm.sh to load your environment

voy4g3r2: what is your ~/startwm.sh doing?

mason: what's #bsdmips?

I'd suspect one's own customizations, but. . . seems kinda whack - a ~/.twm/conf would seem like a better idea.

pertho: an irc channel on EFnet

SKull: just exec startxfce4

i saw what was in /usr/local/etc/xrdp/startwm.sh and found the one i want.. which denotes how to override it

if i delete the ~/startwm.sh i KNOW the default works.. because i just get a xterm window.. introduce the local copy.. and nothing.. black screen

It's been a few years since I ran a FreeBSD workstation, but when I did, my prefered way was to launch my preferred login manager via the ttyv8 line in /etc/ttys.

Some DEs have their own, but there's an xdm syntax example in the default file.

yeah.. this is what i was following before i asked the question here

well, a local tty doesn't help for xrdp which is likely done to have a xserver to connect to from somewhere remote

yeah - I didn't grasp the full context from the last several lines - my bad.

all good CrtxReavr

i will keep at it and look at some more man pages.. just felt like i was going in circle.. as the etc file says make a startwm.sh :)

I will say though, when pushing X11 over ssh, play with the 'ssh -C' option (compression) it may or may not make things better for you.

yeah.. i am using the windows app on mac.. i have used SSH and X11 forwarding but the clipboard and my use of applications has grown.. so trying to just do this xrdp thing

windows app == rdp client

pertho: @bsdmips is probably the most active place FreeBSD committers appear.

Rather, #bsdmips, on EFnet.

More so than #bsdcode you think?

rabbit holes: FreeBSD KASAN.. beautiful work: youtube.com/watch?v=pwwSdQi0NUI

CrtxReavr: Unsure. I left #bsdcode because it seemed less populated/less active, so I haven't seen it for a while.

I'll rejoin so I can re-form an opinion.

EFnet is a mere shadow of its former self, sadly.

I'm still in a bunch of channels there, but it's almost entirely for social reasons.

I guess people really do like nanny-IRC. . . nickserv, chanserv, etc.

uh, i seem to recall nearly every irc network having those sorts of services

otherwise they're just taken over by k1ds and bots and then goes offline

rtprio, EFnet does not.

It takes dedication and often bots to hold a channel.

I think EFnet, prior to channel timestamping was probably the most fun I've ever had on the internet.

hi, would anyone happen to know why each of the three samba 4.20 smbd processes are allocating like VSZ=330MB RSS=590MB with a blank config file? it didn't use to be like this. I checked ubuntu 4,19.5 and it has VSZ=90MB, RSS=26MB, 6MB and 6MB, like it should be. I have no idea how to figure this out by myself.

hrm.. when you install xfce4, it does not add the package xfce4-session

that was a rabbithole...

and without the xfce4-session package.. you do not have startxfce4 which is required to be able to get xfce running in a xrdp setup exec startxfce4

voy4g3r2: It's a run depends on xfce4 so it should.

Wonder if the repo is missing it due to "reasons"

yeah, i am not sure how to confirm/deny that.. i was trying to get xfce4 running through xrdp and trying multiple "ways".. just did the where is the file startxfce4 created and i got pointed to the xfce4-session which was NOT installed when i installed everything else

metaports get packages?

does not look like xfce4 is dependent on it.. only xfce4-conf

oh it's named xfce not xfce4.

pkg install xfce pulls in xfce4-session

hahah

so idiot error in front of keyboard

x11-wm/xfce4 is the port, xfce is the PORTNAME.

I think from my exp. with xfce is that there's still more to install even with xfce.

At least for a fuller xfce desktop.

Yes, just because you tell it to install xfce, doesn't mean you need an X server.

Well if xrdp is isntall then you got one.

But I install xfce in a jail to test... xrdp and I recall there were something that didn't seem to work right with out installing some extra xfce4 packages. I have 55 installed vs the ~10? that xfce would pull in.

agree...

i have this all done in a jail but after that little snafu, it is working

as for the ports/pkg name and that stuff.. i will just chalk it up to i do not know hwat i am doing :)

That's normally the case even when you know what you're doing.

ex: work

oh ofcourse.. it is liberating.. i think this will work.. it either will or it won't.. in the end you get to learn somethign new

well looks like i got to look into fonts.. man it is too easy to add fonts in mac os

I think there's a meta port for those too

which i will probably do wrong.. like last one

If it's a named one you might just be able to search for it

otherwise install xorg-fotns

fonts even

Lig SFMono Nerd Font

pkg install nerd-fonts ?

well here we go.. a gig download, thanks!

haha

1g download 6g install

sorry

And that might not even be it.

we shall see :)

hard drive space is plentiful.. i have 5.3T free

and its lready done

just 5.3?

well the jail only has 530 gig free.. the other 5.3T is the zfs dataset

voy4g3r2: However, for newer fonts like that you can almost get them install via ~/.fonts (newer xdg location) and fc-scan fc-cache I htink

voy4g3r2: Pulled them from github.com/shaunsingh/SFMono-Nerd-Font-Ligaturized copied to ~/.fonts, fc-cache, fc-list | fgrep LigaSFMonoNerdFont

However, I can support the use of ligatures!

I can't be part of the problem

Disaster recovery question - I'd like to start with the 14.3-RELEASE installer on a new server, with a process to pull in a zpool root snapshot from a remote system (a previous whole system zfs backup). Is there a reference guide for these steps - I haven't found one yet? Previously, I've installed FreeBSD locally first, then manually copied the backup data.

PhilVuchetich: docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/zfs/#zfs-zfs-send

You can send and receive snapshots with that.

oh wow.. i got sound to work through rdp.. holy crap

never had that working before

skered: you ccan support it but not part of the problem?

is it you can not support it?

PhilVuchetich: This is the method I use: it-notes.dragas.net/2024/09/16/movi…ng-freebsd-installation-new-host-vm

Thanks ek - I had seen other notes from Stefano, but I didn't see that one!

PhilVuchetich: Sure thing.