In BSD Make, I want to do something like: ID = $(expr $(cat /path/to/counter_file) + 1). I have something like this: ID = $(expr `cat ${COUNTER_FILE} 2>/dev/null || echo 1` + 1) and ID comes back as empty

mns: you are probably looking for: ID!= expr `cat ...

see "Variable assignment operators" in make(1)

ivy: thanks. let me look at htat

*that

rwp: a lot of folks are forgetting to do a fresh install of /usr/ports/graphics/drm-XX-kmod when doing the 14.2 to 14.3

need to comment out drm-kmod in rc.conf or loader.conf (or both), so you can build the new drm-kmod and load it by hand the 1st time to verify that it is working correctly

SponiX: Shouldn't be a matter of forgetting, especially for folks only using binary packages.

Thanks rwp

Yeah, I've heard that starting with 14.3 there is a "kmod" repo that drm-XX-kmod can be installed from. I have no experience with this so far though

There's discussion here, but I don't see any definitive links: wiki.freebsd.org/KernelModulePackages

Hm, maybe some clues here: lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports/2024-December/006997.html

FreeBSD-kmods: {

url: "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/kmods_latest}",

mirror_type: "srv",

signature_type: "fingerprints",

fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkg",

enabled: no

priority: 1

}

I’ll google it… thanks

I believe the appropriate kmod repo config made it into /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf on 14.3

see cgit.freebsd.org/src/tree/usr.sbin/…g/FreeBSD.conf.latest?h=releng/14.3 and cgit.freebsd.org/src/tree/usr.sbin/…reeBSD.conf.quarterly?h=releng/14.3

(I believe -> I note that)

kevans: why is FreeBSD changing everything on us ? I’ve installed FreeBSD about 20 times and it just works

?

kevans: cool, ty

SponiX: Also: cool, ty

In FreeBSD.conf I’m going to change it to latest .. how do I change the kmod part to latest ?

looking at the two files I linked to, it would seem you can just s/quarterly/latest/g and be happy

Ok

I would have chosen "Kernel ABI compatibility" as the way forward. That would have been the right way to fix the problem.

Hm, so, asking for "drm-kmod" appears to want to give me the same old drm-kmod, despite the kmod repo. Is there some trick?

upgrade: pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-kmods"

tuaris: you're welcome to try and provide the Q/A necessary to get there

if it were an easy problem to solve for the modules that commonly have problems then we would've just done that

mzar: TIL, ty

rwp: fixed it bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=287069#c11

Woot!

sup y'all?

If I want to 3d-print stuff from FreeBSD what do I need Freecad, and another program to convert models to gcode-format ?.. does someone know any good program for that?

nwe: I haven't 3d printed in a while, but we have cad/cura for slicing that worked pretty well last time I used it

odd, I don't recall putting in *that* much effort to tweak it for my machine

pretty much just worked

find a relatively close profile, twiddle there fiddle over here

I'm having a network routing issue with a bhyve VM, but I'm not certain it's a bhyve-specific issue. I have two NICs on the host, and I made a second virtual NIC to attach the secondary one to the VM. The problem is that return traffic is not making it back to the VM. If I use tcpdump, I can see what's happening: the traffic reaches the target, the target does an ARP query to get the ethernet

address of the VM's virtual NIC, then it sends a reply as expected. However, on the VM host, I can't see the ping reply packet in tcpdump, and I suspect this is because the hardware MAC address differs from the VM's, so it's ignoring it. What I don't understand is why this isn't a problem with the primary NIC which is working fine. The secondary NIC is different hardware, and I had to install a

kmod to get it to work, so my current suspicion is that this may be a hardware or driver limitation, but I am inexperienced in these things. Any ideas?

Zerock: does it work if you enable promiscuous mode on the second nic? e.g. ifconfig ix1 promisc

let's see

no

how did you attach the nic to the bhyve vm?

I'm using vm-bhyve. I made a virtual switch for the secondary NIC and attached that switch to the VM.

ah, then it created a bridge for you. if you run tcpdump on the bridge, do you see the expected traffic?

annoying that atf-c++ doesn't support std::wstring in ATF_REQUIRE_EQ...

looks the same as tcpdump on the real nic

I see the ping requests going out as well as some ARP queries from the VM

Zerock: okay, then you should have a tap interface in the bridge, which is the VM's NIC, what does tcpdump on the tap show?

hmm.. on the tap I'm only seeing those ARP queries, not the ping requests

that may be a coincidence though; it is inconsistent when I see the ping requests on the real nic also

hm, if you (sometimes) don't see the reply on the real nic that suggests the problem is in the nic itself or in the network

what hardware is the second nic?

AQtion AQC107 NBase-T/IEEE 802.3an Ethernet Controller [Atlantic 10G]

do you happen to have another NIC you could install temporary to see if it's a problem with the hardware/driver?

I don't think so

i feel like buying a $10 ix(4) off ebay may be the easiest way to test this, especially if your existing nic works

yeah that's not a terrible idea

oh, I just noticed

<ivy> hm, if you (sometimes) don't see the reply on the real nic

I *never* see the reply on the real NIC. Only sometimes I see the *request*

I can only see the reply if I tcpdump the nic on the *target* machine

that's definitely a NIC problem, i would say. it sounds like perhaps the driver is not honouring the PROMISC flag correctly

(bridge(4) sets PROMISC on every member interface so it can receive traffic for other MAC addresses)

right, that stands to reason

Does FreeBSD have a poweroff option ? I do shutdown -h now but it leaves my laptop on

oxbar: `shutdown -p now` or `poweroff`

Nice

i added a port for the ACME client i wrote, in case anyone is interested: cgit.freebsd.org/ports/commit/?id=4…ef6e182a4505171518025cc855b593cd498

anyone seen this dpaste.org/dk3Uo im trying to get audio working

/dev/sndstat and dmesg |grep pcm show things like normal

also ://dpaste.org/8JXPN

oops dpaste.org/ZmJ8O

oxbar: does freebsd seem useful ?

kevans: is cura in ports or?

nwe: cad/cura

ivy: ah thanks!

pkg install cad/cura

my 3d-printer will arrive in a couple of weeks so :P

mzar: i realized in freebsd it works or it dosen't lol

no grey area

nice conclusion

FreeBSD is not any shady OS

also another question regarding laptop lid/close and dont set computer while external monitor is connected.. Are guys using devd with custom script to detecd if external monitor is connected?

mzar: are you sure? who is CSRG, really? and i heard they'll let just about anyone have a commit bit

the guys at CSRG have not had much work lately, mining jobs are getting safer

if you think that they sometimes rush out to hand out commit bits to keep the average age and gender parity, that's your opinion. I know that old committers are still active, and can spot them on the mailing lists lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2025-June/004610.html

uh, "age and gender parity"? that was supposed to be a self-deprecating joke, not some sort of sociopolitical commentary

ha.. same here

we can only joke here, the OS is rock solid, so people no longer seek for support and channel is idling

Oh, I can help with that... I'm trying to build tensorflow on 14.3... which is unsupported on so many levels.

Already getting the _build system_ to _build_ on FreeBSD is a quest

what's a tensorflow

ivy: OSS "machine learning".

Grody. After finishing all 3647 files to be built in order to get the build system... it fails. :°)

I have some zfs filesystems when I do get for properties many have values of YES or NO but the values field list on | off as values, I find that interesting