ek: I have not, but I will try that

ek: guessing echo "hint.apic.0.disabled=1" >> /boot/loader.conf will do it

looking at the manpage

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WHY is getting a dump on kernel panic so difficult

the user experience for this is not great in my opinion

i need to dumpon(8) to get a dump. the device needs to be a swap device.

okay; no problem. I flashed an official aarch64 SD card image which seems to be resized to the size of the entire MMC disk, right?

so I just need to shrink the rootfs partition or whatever, make a swapfs partition, swapon(8) it, then dumpon(8) it.

after all, swapinfo shows no swapfs spaces so I'd need to make one

so okay, I gpart show to get started with the disk operation.

what's this on mmcsd0p3? a freebsd-swap type part?

where did this come from? why did i not know about it? why isn't this swapon'd on startup? WHY do i need to go through this just to get a crash dump? I get a minidump in Windows by default, and I can get a full memory dump by just clicking through three dialog boxes in the control panel.

Linux, I don't even want to speculate on

Linux is a disaster zone and FreeBSD is a cathedral that has a centralized official configuration UI, that is bsdconfig(8), equivalent to HP-UX sam and AIX smitty

I would be able to configure **stuff like this** in those config utilities, but I get nothing of the sort in bsdconfig.

Come on man

TIL FreeBSD ships root-on-ZFS VM images.

hi

How do I set a global variable for /bin/sh on FreeBSD? - I've tried adding `export FOO=5` to /etc/profile but that inconsistently works… on Linux I just use /etc/environment

I've had a lot of issues with the same thing in Linux as well FWIW.

Debian in particular does something screwy with /etc/profile and .profiles

arghh

it's rough

I think you need to "source blah.sh where export FOO=5 is in this script

When I `vagrant ssh` and then run `env` I see the var in my FreeBSD box. When I run `vagrant ssh -c 'env'` I don't see it

I don't understand why you need "source" in the first place. Is this a bash only thing?

I guess /etc/profile isn't always sourced?

I don't know

In a sane world, you'd be able to see if that's the case or not in the manpage

Documentation is at an all-time low right now

hmmmmmm

I was complaining about FreeBSD kernel crash dumps being user-unfriendly

but it's really an epidemic with every OS right now

UIs being insanely bad and incomplete, overcomplicated, poor UX

Latest: `vagrant ssh <<< 'env'` works and `vagrant ssh -c 'env'` fails

ring0_starr: get an mac :)

Why is it that everybody in tech acts like this is all a-okay

I would never work for apple

I didnt say you should work for that company :D

That company was much better when Steve Wozniac and those types of people were on charge

(I wouldnt bother though, money is good)

s/on/in/

you seem to be an ideology guy

What's that supposed to mean

you care more for ideology than being pragmatic

people are very different

Being ideological is pragmatic at this stage

nope

There is far too much rot and you need to rethink the entire thing instead of building on top of more garbage

pragmatic is just, you take the stuff which works regardless of who has it designed, invented etc.

At some point people went wrong

mac os works to me but I work with all OS'... FreeBSD included, depends on the use case

Why TF are the most advanced operating systems so difficult to use

It's like you're making unix into a rube goldberg machine

you dont want to work with UNIX

I think the only official one which still is alive is AIX? not sure if IBM still uses that

Ken Thompson, Dennis Ritchie, etc. are too old to get mad about this shit

but I bet they'd be an angry yelling old man like i am right now

Ritchie is dead already

Exactly

Oh you're megaTherion the C++ fanboy guy

time moves forward you know :)

Im not a fanboy of anything

I just use staff to get my work done, earn money etc.

I even use Java

Years or decades ago you used to come to #C and #C++ and argue about OOP

sure but I gave up on that...

people arent worth my time any longer

especially OSS people or people from *somewhere

I have mentally labeled you forever as the C++ fanboy arguing guy

Sorry

I dont care :)

darn tried setting FOO=5 in /etc/profile /usr/share/skel/dot.profile $HOME/.shrc but it still isn't appearing in `vagrant ssh -c env`

dont worry Im not often in here, I quit IRC long time ago... I just chirp in like in a 2-3 years interval

Ok I've added a question to the forum can a moderator approve my post? - forums.freebsd.org/threads/how-do-i…re-skel-dot-profile-home-shrc.97797 - thanks

megaTherion: IIRC you're from Germany, right?

There was another german on #C, mauke

He banned me because he thought I got the third declention in Latin wrong on the word "virus".

And then he unbanned me when I proved I was correct

I don't get people.

hm, SamuelMarks left already, if he returns tell him, that vagrant ssh -c 'env' does the sensible thing of not using /bin/sh anywhere and what he is searching is a way to set env variables on login which is what login.conf provides

oh, or put that on his forum post, I don't have an account there

ring0_starr: yes Im from germany

ya IRC community has destroyed themselfs, I dont care... these days there is ChatGPT :D

(and I heard a lot of people are nowadays on Discord and Matrix, but honestly I dont have the time)

Discord and Matrix don't have high-energy chats in them ever. It's completely dead. People use it as though it were a message board with all the paragraph, attachment features, etc. rather than as a chat program

Forums and IRC have different energies to them and they should not be merged into one.

though discord is basically what IRC is (yes not technically, but treated as such)

+t

I see a lot of people on Discord and Slack speaking in large paragraphs to each other at a time, single line messages are kinda rare

There used to be like "random encounters" where you'd "catch" someone on in a certain channel at a certain time, now everybody is omnipresent everywhere all the time

And people end up not speaking

Everybody is going to turn into those "I'll just install an IRC bouncer on my router and read it every 5 years" kind of people

If you want slow-paced larger form chats that's what a forum is for but it's like nu-age chat programs are trying to merge that into one

I have podman insatlled and when I run it, as a regular user, I get the following: "Error: cannot run command "podman machine list" as root" Has anyone seen that?

does anyone know what licence (if any) the freebsd handbook goes by?

is it freely redistributable?

clemens3: cgit.freebsd.org/doc/tree/COPYRIGHT i would assume

ivy, thanks, that sounds like it means the texts and documentation

nothing directly in the latest pdf, but anyway, would be logical the book is part of the os

clemens3: the handbook is built from that repository, so that license applies to everything in there. the PDF would count as 'object files'

ivy: i checked it, thanks

i just couldn't find the license in the book itself, and according to the license, i now distribute the license extra

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