so, this machine is running in a VM on a computer sitting physically behind me.

and I use a container on that same server quite a bit -- so I know its fine.

Its just that, whenever I crash or reboot the device I have to re-ssh in, cd to the right directories, etc, etc. I would prefer having a working environment that would survive those crashes.

I believe vscode can do this. However, vscode does not allow remote ssh sessions onto a FreeBSD device (not sure why)

NFS4 maybe an option, if you want to take the time to set it up. the client should block reads/writes until it's able to reconnect to your restarted server

if the files are all on local filesystems that are mounted by the time nfsd starts, there shouldn't be any interruption beyond waiting for the reconnect, i think

agree that sshfs definitely an easier option though if fuse is installed locally

is it durable?

actually looking at it now, i'm not completely sure what happens to in-flight writes in a crash, there would probably be some loss, but if you are only writing occasionally and at known times, that seems acceptable

if we're talking about an editor saving a file, should not matter i think

if you are just concerned with a working environmen, you could also write some scripts to create tmux sessions and panes

Got a working solution -- vim has an scp option.

farhan: can you use sshfs?

Yes.

sshfs -o reconnect server:/dir (with a key based auth)

Ohh, didn't realize -o was possible

you might need to :r the file (reopen) after a reconnect, but it's quick

you can save a session file on the local machine, which will reopen all remote files

isn't there a way i can have visudo use nano instead of vi to edit the sudoers file?

you can try setting EDITOR env variable.

i would have to do that to root, but does root have a .profile ?

another option is to check man visudo ;)

ironically, google sent me to a post on an ubuntu forum with the easiest solution :P

the curse of the modern world;)

ok that leads me to my next question, is there a "best practice" way of setting up your primary user to have sudo access? Like i directly to the user, or to the users group, or some other way? This is on a server where i will be the only user

best practice depends on context. in single server with single user, it really does not matter much.

it will be a web and email server, and like i said i'm the only user that will ever log in

ok ill just add my user account direct

groups are used for management purposes -- it is easier to control and change group membership than check sudoers file content.

gotcha

alright

so i've had this dicussion in here before

but

is there an easy way to 'sample' all of the different GUIs that are available without having to actually install each one?

for desktop?

yeah

I guess, thats why google (or other search engines) are good for;) but desktop is a lot about personal preferences and taste, so there can not be easy way:)

i guess i was hoping someone had a website somewhere that sort of showcased all of the more popular options :)

i had installed one on my previous bsd test machine that seemed good enough to get the job done.... i have no idea what one it was though so i guess i'm starting over, which is fine, i wasn't glued to it or anything

i REALLY want a GUI based off of old BeOS but modernized

lol in 2001, palm pilot bought beos inc, aaaaaand palm and be died shortly afterwards, so sad

ooooh, hellosystem looks promising though

where can I found information howto create a bridge, I will use that birdge for all my virtual machines, and then one of the virtaul machine will acts as firewall/dhcpd, but I can only find information like run ifconfig XXXX not how the syntax should be in rc.conf etc..

nwe: probably in the handbook, but basically: cloned_interfaces="bridge0"; ifconfig_bridge0="inet 1.2.3.4/24 addm epair0a addm epair1a"

ivy: then I will look deeper in the handbook :)

if you can't find it in the VM section, try the jail section, the bridge config is basically the same

i know i've seen it in there somewhere recently

ivy: okey thanks for the help :)

nwe: actually there is an example in bridge(4), scroll down to EXAMPLES near the bottom

cloned_interfaces is documented in rc.conf(5)

ivy: oh thanks :)

stupid question, how do I know which interfaces I can put as a list in cloned_interfaces ?

you can use any interface type that supports cloning, which should be listed in the interface's manual page; it will tell you use ifconfig create to create one. see wg(4) for example

ah yeah, I meant to add that as a follow up

normally man pages will mention if an if is created with cloning which is a subtle hint

okey thanks for clarifying, I have run FreeBSD so much :)

havent run freebsd so much :)

s/nwe/new/

:p

nwe: even after using FreeBSD on and off for 15 years I'm learning things all the time

you can only know what you have had to learn

which one did you install

i installed 4.6

8.x was out 2010

7-CURRENT on powerpc

the hell!!! :p

ketas: haha

lol

because he loves PAIN

what do you suggests running freebsd in jail or virtual machine? I will setup my zigbee2mqtt usb-adapter..

maybe it´s easier to run it on linux vm with usb-passthrough ?

there is no usb passthrough in bhyve, as a workaround you can pass through a dedicated PCIe USB card

dont have any PCIe-usb card

I only have the usb-ports on my motherboard.

hmm maybe I can use socat in someway? what do think about that?

usb-port -> TCP and in zigbee2mqtt use tcp:// ?

what's that device even?

SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2

usb ip bridge did exist

even ports have at least one iirc

usbredir

i have no idea how it works tho

but first I must setup bhyve with vm guests :)

nwe: you can pass 1 xhci controller from the host to the vm

assuming you have more than 1

at the moment I have create a bridge1 with addm vtnet0 so I have bridge up and running (withhout IP). and I will create a switch in bhyve and add bridge1 to that switch

[tj]: oh so then the "whole" controller will be assigned to that vm-guest?

[tj]: you can do it eh?

i was wondering about that

my first things is to get any vm guest up and running ^^

another question can I add wlan0 to a bridge or is that a bad idea?

I have a weird issue i was hoping someone can help me with. FreeBSD turns off my laptop after 30 seconds after I unplug the power chord. Only happens when I have X running. The laptop has an Intel GPU. I've already tried changing to newer/older drivers, no lucj

ran into something weird yesterday, I don't understand

some recent patches to libc make my mouse disappear

reverting them & rebooting brings it back (good)

which patches?

*not* reverting them, and recompiling `libudev-devd` the port, then rebooting also brings it back

I thought libudev-devd is .so, why would a rebuild of the port fix this?

kevans: not so important as I already emailed maintainer, but its the collate-related ones (fnmatch etc)

I can fwd the thread if you want

`ldd /usr/local/lib/libudev.so` shows it uses libc correctly

Gud: this sounds sort of power mgmt related, assuming you have no sysctl or tunables related to that, maybe try this:"

while plugged in, switch to console (ctrl-alt-F1) , then unplug, and hope to see something of note on the console

you could probably also try fwding syslog over network, which would be more reliable, but you might miss the final useful log message that way

dch: hmm, I wouldn't have expected that

unless it's a difference in autoconf on the new libc

kevans: at first I thought I must have screwed something up, so I did a fresh beinstall.sh from sources into it, then rebuilt libudev-devd, and went fwd & back a few times, its definitely a thing

if I revert to the version built from pkg.f.o its deadmauß, rebuild locally, its back

dch: good suggestions

There is some error message I've tried recording using a camera

but it's gone in a blink of an eye

Gud: sadly not *great* suggestions :-( yeah a phone mp4 played back frame by frame might help

shouldnt it turn up in /var/log somewhere?

dch: I'm going to try to record using a high frame rate

there is definately something fishy about the battery. It was replaced by the previous owner. But this problem is fairly new

ivy: you are ivy⊙fo? Congrats on the commit bit!

oh wait maybe its a different ivy

I have added this pastebin.com/7J1DVdFJ to my vm.conf and reboot my machine, but when I running vm switch list none of public/internal is there..

found the probelm I needed to add vm.conf under right zpool/dataset :)

or maybe not :P

or is it maybe because I creating it via rc.conf ?

nwe: which tool is this from?

I'm guessing its a ports one

I got it to working because I have setup my bridge via rc.conf and vm create switch -t manual <name> bridgeX work :)

hmm is it vmrun.sh or bhyve I should use to create virtual-machines?

vmrun is fine for freebsd vms, but if you plan to manage multiple i'd suggest just using something like vm-bhyve or whatever the rage is these days

why would you use anything other than vm (vm-bhyve) in 2025 ;-)

+10 for vm-bhyve its what the cool kids use

vm-bhyve++

I thought everyone was using libvirt now

TommyC: last time i tried it, it was still lacking a lot of features and was pretty wonky with bhyve, but that was a few years ago

can I specify multiple nics with vm create? for my vm-guest?

that's sad story jbo

first time I using bhyve and vm, I have create two bridge and added them manully to vm swtich, and will create my frist vm (will be firewall for my virtual/guests network)

good luck with vm-bhyve nwe !

mzar: Were you sarcastic regadring vm-bhyve? :P

nope, I am using it since a while, also submitted small patch some time ago, it's decent tool

oki :) it´s much to learn :P after I have setup my first firewall in bhyve I will setup my zigbee2mqtt stuff :) migrating to freebsd from proxmox (but the problem is that I cant boot my old nuc because of disk crash) :(

nwe: i usually just add them in the config,

i don't think you can do it when you create it

ah okey :) wiill do that

if i want to have ipv6 in a vm-bhyve-managed guest, I assume I have to arrange that manually after the bridge interface is brought up?

if you don't automatically assign ipv6 addresses, yeah

I'm trying to determine the chipset of this guy and ultimately if FreeBSD supports it.

This one's easier to determine the chipset for, but it doesn't look good for FreeBSD: tp-link.com/us/home-networking/usb-adapter/archer-tx20u-plus

Hi, I'm struggling to connect to an nfs server installed on a WSL2 (Ubuntu on Windows), from FreeBSD.

What NFS version?

If I run rpcinfo -p <IP> I get all the ports 111, 2049, etc open

CrtxReavr: how can I check that?

Can you pastebin the full rpcinfo -p output?

CrtxReavr: pastebin.com/nGD6Mzpg

What does 'showmount -e <ip>' say?

CrtxReavr: that's the issue, showmount hangs for a while and returns RPC: Port mapper failure, showmount: can't do exports rpc

CrtxReavr: it looks like a firewall issue, but if that's the issue why rpcinfo returns the open ports?

Well. . . rpcinfo is only going to talk to rpcbind. . .

YOu need the full range of ports available to connect to the NFS services with.

CrtxReavr: I also tested ports 111 and 2049 with telnet. Is there another needed port?

2049 is nfsv4

Look at the docs on that linux side for mountd and findout what the full port range it might use, then make sure those are open on the firewall.

CrtxReavr: let me see

Though. . . my NFSv4 experience is quite limited.

dch might be on to something.

CrtxReavr: I don't really need NFSv4, I just need to transfer files via NFS.

Well, NFSv3 I'm a lot more versed in troubleshooting.

Though, you're probably still going to be down to dealing with a firewall issue.

I'm looking for recommendations on a USB-3 wifi adapter that only needs USB power, and has multiple, long antennas, plus supports an AP mode. . . oh, and that FreeBSD will support.

cddj/24

does someone here running mosquitto ? I trying to setup password_file (using default configuration from pkg) but it complain file not exists even if I have absolute path to the file.

nwe: well Im running mosquitto, but didn't bother with any password files

megaTherion: are you running the service with default settings like use nobody etc?

i also run mosquitto but do not use password_file, sorry

nwe: ah no, but if you'd define a password file. I guess you don't necessarily want nobody but an own mosquitto user