nimaje: building drm-kmod worked, cheers!

also diagnosed issues with my hardware along the way :P

is there a way too control fan speeds on freebsd

I assume each laptop will need its own driver (or family of laptop) and I doubt old dell laptops would have one lying around, so I assume the answer to this is a clear no, but worth asking anyways :P

nvm had someone else answer that questioon

probably a bit of a long shot, but has anyone got OSPFv2 with unnumbered IPv4 links working on FreeBSD with BIRD?

ivy: you sound like a DN42 guy :p

polarian: correct, but this isn't for DN42 since i only use IPv6 there

I can smell you guys a mile off

yup, www/caddy

oops wrong buffer :p

yeah, that's because most people who use OSPF can afford proper routing hardware and don't do it on freebsd :-P

ivy: proper proprietary shit you mean?

isn't the entire idea of DN42 to experiment? and to test new software?!!?

surely its the perfect testing ground for open source implementations

polarian: proprietary or Linux-based, since Linux has made huge advances here in the last few years. freebsd is really lagging

and yes freebsd is well suited to dn42, but unfortunately the venn diagram of 'people who use bird' and 'people who use freebsd' and 'people who use unnumbered OSPF' is a point, which makes it hard to find information about it

i just see a bunch of words.. and is lost :)

i had the "pleasure" of loooking at a corporate network layout a few days ago.. 52 VLANs across 6 sites and a cloud

my head hurt.. all i needed to know was that 78 devices could talk.. after a vlan switch

because i never wanted to know why.. this device traverses through 4 VLANs

voy4g3r2: you'll be glad to know that the modern trend is to remove vlans and replace them with routed networks :-)

or vxlans, but i think those are kind of terrible

yeah outside of my wheelhouse

the rationale for the traverse made sense but that is not my area

i just have ot make sure people can use the devices :)

i made the "mistake" of saying.. oh i am trying to learn VLAN setup for security cameras.. and the network guy is like.. buy mikrotik.. solid stuff for cheap

then i received that layout and was like.. i am good..

they do NOT use mikrotik the multi vlan setup above.. more for personal use to learn things. situation

Every time I see MikroTik in my head it comes out sounding "my-crah-tic" rather than "micro-tick".

it's apparently pronounced "micc-ro-tik" which still confuses me, i want to say "mye-kro-tik"

Hmm... The company is Latvian in origin. I know nothing about the language conventions there.

i may be wrong as i looked for evidence on youtube, and their Latvian employees seem to have mye-kro-tik...

possibly an issue with translating Latvian vowels into English!

are we ever going to get pkgbase installation CDs?

pkgbase is supposed to be the default in 15.0, i would expect someone to be working on this

CDs in 2025?

SponiX: what image do you use to install VMs, if not disc1?

if you're going to say memstick then obviously i am including memstick images in my question

Yeah, when I think of an ISO image these days. I don't think about it being a CD anymore

the point is having media to install a new machine with pkgbase

Yeah, I'm running -CURRENT branch with pkgbase, but if my memory is correct, I still had to use the handbook to set it up

Having it as an install option for pkgbase out of the box experience would be NICE -- I will agree with that

the reason i asked is the current method of switching from normal install to pkgbase requires a huge amount of disk space

10GB / is not enough to do 'pkg install -r base -g freebsd-\*' since it creates a bunch of .pkgsave

so it would be nice if we had an ISO that just installed pkgbase packages

being that limited on storage would suck. I have like 200G allocated to my build vm, and it does fine ;)

this machine is a VM that only does routing, so it should need less than 1GB of disk space

sure, i could pay to give it 10TB of disk space if i wanted, but that would be pointless

routing with pf ?

mostly not pf, the only relevant pf rule is 'pass all no state'

but you have more pf rules? else why even run pf?

yes, i have more pf rules, but i'm not "routing with pf"

the ip stack does the routing, pf is just filtering some traffic to the host

(CoPP, basically)

tbh, i wonder about simplifying the setup by just removing pf entirely

the only thing listening on the network is BIRD and it just ignores traffic on unconfigured interfaces

there we go, stateless pf.conf: le-fay.org/tmp/30d/pf2.conf

this will save as much as 10 bytes of memory!

ty

does FreeBSD support ECMP? i've got an ECMP route installed, but all the packets seem to choose only a single gateway of the two

2a00:1098:6b:200::/56 fe80::182f:7ab:39f:d478%wg.uk-jmp-1 UG wg.uk-jmp-1

2a00:1098:6b:200::/56 fe80::ccee:b90f:c6c7:f437%wg.uk-myb-1 UG wg.uk-myb-1

everything is only leaving via the first gateway, wg.uk-jmp-1

ah... maybe i need ROUTE_MPATH

no that's not it, i already have that

and net.route.multipath=1

Does net/dhcpd use a pidfile? I don't see one referenced in the rc.d script - nothing in /var/run/*dhcp*

dvl: apparently not...

ketas: Then the method I'll use to checking (is dhcpd running?) will change.

rc finds it by name i think

I suspect so

poor decision maybe

if you need more

i also use it now

dvl: was it you asking about rc.d status on the mailing list recently?

Probably because there is no pid, probably an upstream decision.

migrated from isc

ivy: As in should every script have a status option? No, not me.

15:28,root@green:~# service dhcpd status

dhcpd is running as pid 9889.

:)

works if only dhcpd in system i guess

i never looked

dvl: oh, ok :-)

but no pidfile indeed

unsure, run on fg under daemon(8) ?

that'll catch a pid into file

a hack

ask obsd where the pidfile is :)

or what they use

actually daemon is versatile tool

i use it to run my utils, most don't do own pidfiling or bg forking

hmm, i sent an email to net@ about half an hour ago and i don't see it on the archive... is there a delay before that updates?

so theo-ry is that it's what they do

hm, someone here wanted to write a proper service manager for freebsd, sadly I forgot who or what that project was called, what is the status of that?

ivy: regarding ECMP, i'm pretty sure it worked for me, but it was IPv4, and i don't currently use it. i don't remember any additional setup

jmnbtslsQE: hmm interesting. thanks

jmnbtslsQE: do you happen to remember what it uses to hash the destination? i was assuming L4 (addr + port) but i'm wondering if it's addr only

nimaje: what is proper?

ivy: hmm it should be the entire flow including address and ports. i think i confirmed this when i tried this, using separate connections

not just an init system, but managing services, like keeping track of them and maybe have restart policies

restart works via daemon

tracking hmm

i admit it lacks features

like status output with all running things?

jmnbtslsQE: interestingly i tried from a different source address and it did use the other route, i wonder if there's something i need to configure here

so it works for a different address but not a different port?

yes

hmm, not sure sorry

there's no documentation on this, is there? man -k doesn't seem to turn up anything

unsure if init already had option somewhere in 14 or 15 to do easy autorestarts

seems like this is most asked feature

in my situation, my traffic was encapsulated and the endpoints always had the same address, so couldn't access the flow data inside. what i did was set up separate interfaces (with different addresses) on the "client" side, and configure different return paths to the "client", and then the "client" distributes over the source interfaces to cause the load balancing to happen on the return path

yeah not sure if there's any documentation

at one point, i saw something on a mailing list

i didn't have to recompile the kernel. i think there might have been a sysctl but it looks like you found one

ivy: i guess some machine in the ether was "reading" the network stuff last night: the history of alteon networks: youtube.com/watch?v=g5m95ZMRNfo

good afternoon, will this altq configuration limit so queue kidz queue only get 1Mb download/upload? pastebin.com/F6fDKJ2j

hello friends, is it possible to deploy Java-Spring Boot web application in FreeBSD

Bushmaster: yes. all lts openjdk versions are in the ports tree. build a fat jar, install the jdk, adjust and adopt for your needs

thanks ridcully much appreciated, I am just installing FreeBSD 14.2 now heheh

having problem booting the img from pen drive

does the pen drive / flash drive need BSD partition table or MS DOS is fine before burning it in with dd command? Because I did it MS DOS partition table may be that's why it did not boot

you should write it directly on the drive, it contains a partition table itself

the problem is that pen drive /dev/sdd only shows up in command line if I first make MSDOS partition table and then create ext4 partition

oh oh. bsd.network is offline.

how do you even create a partition table when the device isn't accessable?

Sounds like a faulty usb storage device.

nimaje, rwp sorry my fault, i manage to get it booted up, now going through installation process, wish me luck heheh

i am not a sysadmin, just some basic skill, hence moving forward with best instinct

installation is in progress, do I need to separately install the GUI interphase?