00:06:34 nimaje: building drm-kmod worked, cheers! 00:06:45 also diagnosed issues with my hardware along the way :P 00:10:54 is there a way too control fan speeds on freebsd 00:11:15 I assume each laptop will need its own driver (or family of laptop) and I doubt old dell laptops would have one lying around, so I assume the answer to this is a clear no, but worth asking anyways :P 00:31:17 nvm had someone else answer that questioon 03:16:49 probably a bit of a long shot, but has anyone got OSPFv2 with unnumbered IPv4 links working on FreeBSD with BIRD? 03:39:52 ivy: you sound like a DN42 guy :p 03:41:21 polarian: correct, but this isn't for DN42 since i only use IPv6 there 03:41:57 I can smell you guys a mile off 03:43:02 yup, www/caddy 03:43:25 oops wrong buffer :p 03:43:27 yeah, that's because most people who use OSPF can afford proper routing hardware and don't do it on freebsd :-P 03:45:52 ivy: proper proprietary shit you mean? 03:46:07 isn't the entire idea of DN42 to experiment? and to test new software?!!? 03:46:21 surely its the perfect testing ground for open source implementations 03:46:56 polarian: proprietary or Linux-based, since Linux has made huge advances here in the last few years. freebsd is really lagging 03:47:52 and yes freebsd is well suited to dn42, but unfortunately the venn diagram of 'people who use bird' and 'people who use freebsd' and 'people who use unnumbered OSPF' is a point, which makes it hard to find information about it 03:49:38 i just see a bunch of words.. and is lost :) 03:50:09 i had the "pleasure" of loooking at a corporate network layout a few days ago.. 52 VLANs across 6 sites and a cloud 03:50:33 my head hurt.. all i needed to know was that 78 devices could talk.. after a vlan switch 03:50:59 because i never wanted to know why.. this device traverses through 4 VLANs 03:53:31 voy4g3r2: you'll be glad to know that the modern trend is to remove vlans and replace them with routed networks :-) 03:53:43 or vxlans, but i think those are kind of terrible 03:55:10 yeah outside of my wheelhouse 03:55:24 the rationale for the traverse made sense but that is not my area 03:55:31 i just have ot make sure people can use the devices :) 03:56:18 i made the "mistake" of saying.. oh i am trying to learn VLAN setup for security cameras.. and the network guy is like.. buy mikrotik.. solid stuff for cheap 03:56:31 then i received that layout and was like.. i am good.. 03:57:16 they do NOT use mikrotik the multi vlan setup above.. more for personal use to learn things. situation 05:03:03 Every time I see MikroTik in my head it comes out sounding "my-crah-tic" rather than "micro-tick". 05:06:58 it's apparently pronounced "micc-ro-tik" which still confuses me, i want to say "mye-kro-tik" 05:13:53 Hmm... The company is Latvian in origin. I know nothing about the language conventions there. 05:17:22 i may be wrong as i looked for evidence on youtube, and their Latvian employees seem to have mye-kro-tik... 05:17:47 possibly an issue with translating Latvian vowels into English! 06:18:17 are we ever going to get pkgbase installation CDs? 06:18:33 pkgbase is supposed to be the default in 15.0, i would expect someone to be working on this 06:21:28 CDs in 2025? 06:21:55 SponiX: what image do you use to install VMs, if not disc1? 06:22:46 if you're going to say memstick then obviously i am including memstick images in my question 06:22:59 Yeah, when I think of an ISO image these days. I don't think about it being a CD anymore 06:23:01 the point is having media to install a new machine with pkgbase 06:23:39 Yeah, I'm running -CURRENT branch with pkgbase, but if my memory is correct, I still had to use the handbook to set it up 06:24:01 Having it as an install option for pkgbase out of the box experience would be NICE -- I will agree with that 06:24:32 the reason i asked is the current method of switching from normal install to pkgbase requires a huge amount of disk space 06:25:08 10GB / is not enough to do 'pkg install -r base -g freebsd-\*' since it creates a bunch of .pkgsave 06:25:24 so it would be nice if we had an ISO that just installed pkgbase packages 06:26:48 being that limited on storage would suck. I have like 200G allocated to my build vm, and it does fine ;) 06:27:26 this machine is a VM that only does routing, so it should need less than 1GB of disk space 06:27:43 sure, i could pay to give it 10TB of disk space if i wanted, but that would be pointless 06:28:03 routing with pf ? 06:28:22 mostly not pf, the only relevant pf rule is 'pass all no state' 09:05:30 but you have more pf rules? else why even run pf? 09:05:53 yes, i have more pf rules, but i'm not "routing with pf" 09:06:10 the ip stack does the routing, pf is just filtering some traffic to the host 09:06:47 (CoPP, basically) 09:47:06 tbh, i wonder about simplifying the setup by just removing pf entirely 09:47:19 the only thing listening on the network is BIRD and it just ignores traffic on unconfigured interfaces 10:46:18 there we go, stateless pf.conf: https://www.le-fay.org/tmp/30d/pf2.conf 10:46:32 this will save as much as 10 bytes of memory! 10:48:25 ty 12:42:07 does FreeBSD support ECMP? i've got an ECMP route installed, but all the packets seem to choose only a single gateway of the two 12:42:26 2a00:1098:6b:200::/56 fe80::182f:7ab:39f:d478%wg.uk-jmp-1 UG wg.uk-jmp-1 12:42:26 2a00:1098:6b:200::/56 fe80::ccee:b90f:c6c7:f437%wg.uk-myb-1 UG wg.uk-myb-1 12:42:50 everything is only leaving via the first gateway, wg.uk-jmp-1 12:43:32 ah... maybe i need ROUTE_MPATH 12:43:56 no that's not it, i already have that 12:44:30 and net.route.multipath=1 13:13:53 Does net/dhcpd use a pidfile? I don't see one referenced in the rc.d script - nothing in /var/run/*dhcp* 13:28:11 dvl: apparently not... 13:28:38 ketas: Then the method I'll use to checking (is dhcpd running?) will change. 13:29:18 rc finds it by name i think 13:29:26 I suspect so 13:29:27 poor decision maybe 13:29:42 if you need more 13:29:45 i also use it now 13:29:47 dvl: was it you asking about rc.d status on the mailing list recently? 13:29:52 Probably because there is no pid, probably an upstream decision. 13:29:59 migrated from isc 13:30:12 ivy: As in should every script have a status option? No, not me. 13:30:50 15:28,root@green:~# service dhcpd status 13:30:50 dhcpd is running as pid 9889. 13:30:53 :) 13:31:05 works if only dhcpd in system i guess 13:31:13 i never looked 13:31:20 dvl: oh, ok :-) 13:31:20 but no pidfile indeed 13:35:24 unsure, run on fg under daemon(8) ? 13:35:42 that'll catch a pid into file 13:35:46 a hack 13:35:58 ask obsd where the pidfile is :) 13:36:06 or what they use 13:36:27 actually daemon is versatile tool 13:38:49 i use it to run my utils, most don't do own pidfiling or bg forking 13:39:31 hmm, i sent an email to net@ about half an hour ago and i don't see it on the archive... is there a delay before that updates? 13:40:26 so theo-ry is that it's what they do 13:40:35 hm, someone here wanted to write a proper service manager for freebsd, sadly I forgot who or what that project was called, what is the status of that? 13:40:48 ivy: regarding ECMP, i'm pretty sure it worked for me, but it was IPv4, and i don't currently use it. i don't remember any additional setup 13:41:03 jmnbtslsQE: hmm interesting. thanks 13:41:34 jmnbtslsQE: do you happen to remember what it uses to hash the destination? i was assuming L4 (addr + port) but i'm wondering if it's addr only 13:41:57 nimaje: what is proper? 13:42:24 ivy: hmm it should be the entire flow including address and ports. i think i confirmed this when i tried this, using separate connections 13:44:09 not just an init system, but managing services, like keeping track of them and maybe have restart policies 13:44:31 restart works via daemon 13:44:43 tracking hmm 13:44:53 i admit it lacks features 13:45:57 like status output with all running things? 13:46:57 jmnbtslsQE: interestingly i tried from a different source address and it did use the other route, i wonder if there's something i need to configure here 13:48:08 so it works for a different address but not a different port? 13:48:12 yes 13:48:39 hmm, not sure sorry 13:50:17 there's no documentation on this, is there? man -k doesn't seem to turn up anything 13:50:36 unsure if init already had option somewhere in 14 or 15 to do easy autorestarts 13:50:55 seems like this is most asked feature 13:51:16 in my situation, my traffic was encapsulated and the endpoints always had the same address, so couldn't access the flow data inside. what i did was set up separate interfaces (with different addresses) on the "client" side, and configure different return paths to the "client", and then the "client" distributes over the source interfaces to cause the load balancing to happen on the return path 13:51:48 yeah not sure if there's any documentation 13:52:05 at one point, i saw something on a mailing list 13:53:37 i didn't have to recompile the kernel. i think there might have been a sysctl but it looks like you found one 14:45:52 ivy: i guess some machine in the ether was "reading" the network stuff last night: the history of alteon networks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5m95ZMRNfo 15:36:36 good afternoon, will this altq configuration limit so queue kidz queue only get 1Mb download/upload? https://pastebin.com/F6fDKJ2j 16:41:26 hello friends, is it possible to deploy Java-Spring Boot web application in FreeBSD 16:44:43 Bushmaster: yes. all lts openjdk versions are in the ports tree. build a fat jar, install the jdk, adjust and adopt for your needs 16:45:15 thanks ridcully much appreciated, I am just installing FreeBSD 14.2 now heheh 16:48:17 having problem booting the img from pen drive 16:50:07 does the pen drive / flash drive need BSD partition table or MS DOS is fine before burning it in with dd command? Because I did it MS DOS partition table may be that's why it did not boot 16:51:21 you should write it directly on the drive, it contains a partition table itself 16:55:11 the problem is that pen drive /dev/sdd only shows up in command line if I first make MSDOS partition table and then create ext4 partition 16:56:00 oh oh. bsd.network is offline. 17:07:17 how do you even create a partition table when the device isn't accessable? 17:09:50 Sounds like a faulty usb storage device. 17:22:25 nimaje, rwp sorry my fault, i manage to get it booted up, now going through installation process, wish me luck heheh 17:22:51 i am not a sysadmin, just some basic skill, hence moving forward with best instinct 17:48:10 installation is in progress, do I need to separately install the GUI interphase?