troubleshooting question - I am setting up dovecot in a jail. Upon starting the jail, dovecot generates error messages to /var/log/maillog (socket address in use for imap, auth,...), but if I kill the dovecot master process and use "service dovecot start" it works fine. Is there something special about jail startup that might be the issue?

what error

I am guessing that PhilVuchetich has dovecot running both in a jail and in the host sharing the network.

Sometimes waiting before having the service turn on, is all that is needed to side-step this kind of issue. It could be starting too quickly.

dch: how's the golf? meanwhile i found totally unknown sedcode to trim off empty lines from begin end end of file but nothing for mid line pattern replacement with file... this looks like job for a templating engine and maybe base needs text processor like this either part of something or new tool, who knows

i managed to find/adapt

sed "s/%content%/`sed 's/[\&/]/\\\&/g;s/$/\\\n/' < content-file | tr -d '\n'`/g" < data

but what the actual fuck is this

Hello all, im at an Airbnb and trying to connect to the wifi from freebsd works (it authenticates) but no dhcp address is picked up, ifconfig reports no carrier, and then about a minute later it disconnects, dmesg shows a single error before the interface resets, I get iwn0: null_update_chw: need callback

any ideas?

another horrible wifi bug?

maybe...

Never had wifi issues before :)

did it work before?

Yup, it works on all other networks I have tried and all other airbnbs

never had an issue

maybe the ap got busted there?

works on android

using my phone right now via the same wifi network

i wonder what makes this ap special

freq, mode?

oo I should change the regdomain

that might be a problrm

its currently set to GB

im in Romania xD

that shouldn't affect much

isn't it same reg

i wonder if it's new bug

or where the issue is

there is sizable wifi rework being done right now

what fbsd version?

wow quick commit, thanks freebsd

ketas: there's certainly perl tools in base to do this, but not perl-with-json support

long term I will see if I can add json support to flua via libucl which is already in base

docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/mail Using DMA to Route Outgoing Mail through Gmail THIS IS NOT WORKING VvV

perl in base?

ketas: reviews.freebsd.org/F107268658$52 is what I ended up with. the quoting is sheer madness

ketas: yes perl is in base system

i need some assistance in running DMA on my freebsd server

dch: of fbsd 4?

:p

json in json is a hell

ketas: actually what am I thinking we do not have perl in base

ketas: yes somebody made a poor design choice in virtualbox decades ago and it is still present in oracle's cloud setup today

mane: whats not working? I have battled a bit with dma the last couple of weeks

not all providers work

So Google just won’t work

What provider will?

perhaps b64 in json would be acceptable

mane: share your config? also compare it against dragonflybsd.org/docs/howtos/HowTo_dma_gmail

I don't have a google acct anymore so can't check it

now i get where your replace code actually went

ketas: yep into the bowels of satan

the jq version was quite readable really

hopefully you don't need 3 levels of json

mane: also when you say "it doesn't work" you can look in /var/spool/dma/ and see exactly what its complaining about

IIRC there's a pair of files for each message , one of them is a transcript of the failure

uth failure

auth failure

and finally its possible to run dma in the fogreground directly and you see what its unhappy with

mane: did you make an app password? per myaccount.google.com/apppasswords

the standard password will not be accepted via smtp

if that works, we should amend the handbook with that info

I got it from dragonflybsd.org/docs/howtos/HowTo_dma_gmail

dch: :O i didn't know about it!

mane: let me know if it works, we can amend the docs

dch: (>' .')> IT WORKS!

dch: could sed be changed to have it replace pattern within line with contents of a line?

file

probably

it may already do this and we just don't know how :D

i looked and i find no feature like this

so how would i configure MTA for multiple users?

sed is not only line based thing, otherwise s/a/b/g would fail too

mane: I don't believe you can with dma

its sole purpose is to fwd local mail to a smart host (aka real mailserver)

it might support "sending" mail to local users tho, I never used it

ketas: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/20…g-with-contents-of-a-file-using-sed ?

i had better stackexchange page on this

but no real solution

nothing in man too

powerful stream editor, can't do this?

aah this explains some of my initial issues pement.org/sed/sedfaq5.html#s5.9

Howdy everyone. Kinda new to FreeBSD. Wondering if it's okay to mix pkg and ports willy-nilly? For example I'm running the pkg version of Emacs but I want to remove it and use the port so I can have xwidgets support. Is that alright or do I need to do some surgery?

mountainman1312: welcome. generally its possible but advised against. what tends to happen is stuff gets subtly out of date over time.

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feel free to run with this for a while, until you get a bit more comfortable. I highly recommend getting familiar with poudriere, and eventually building your own ports as local packages.

this depends a bit on whether your system is big enough to build ports itself, or not.

typically in this situation, you'd build your local emacs, then use pkg lock to prevent it being upgraded

then, underlying issue is that you run `pkg upgrade ...` and get the dependencies upgraded, but your locally-built port will either lose its custom nature (if unlocked, the upgrade replaces it with the pkg provided on) or wont run properly as the dependencies change

mane: freebsd/freebsd-doc #457

dma and ssmtp can't do relaying and local /var/spool delivery, but OpenSMTPD from OpenBSD can

it's explained fairly well here: wiki.archlinux.org/title/OpenSMTPD#Local_mail

polarian: are you still there

polarian: because i got number of debug command you could run

ketas: im here but not with my laptop

oh

did you throw it out of the window because it didn't connect?

polarian: if you join #freebsd-wifi on Efnet Adrian@ would like to debug this

dch: thanks for that

[tj]: alright sure

its really hard to type on mobile though

ketas: 14.1-RELEASE (I still need to debug 14.2 as update failed when it released)

ouch, quarterly pkg upgrade broke my prosody....

becuase luadbi switched database from sqlite3 to mysql

km: another point for running poudriere huh

(I also run prosody but mine uses PostgreSQL as back-end)

I guess I'll have to use ports

this was a dramatic change, tbh

who just swaps database drivers like this?

km: apparently it is supposed to default to MySQL

in Oct 2023: databases/luadbi: Update OPTIONS_DEFAULT As MySQL57 is reaching EOL and this port does not support MySQL80 so change the OPTIONS_DEFAULT to SQLITE3 and unbreak.

yes, but still swapping defaults back and forth is very dramatic

true

hmm apparently migrating prosody from sqlite3 to postgresql is somewhat trivial

sqlite3 is a very nice default driver

Remilia: luckily, getting sqlite3 driver without using ports is easy enought

also, luckily, sqlite3 tends to just work :)

km: you could open a ticket and discuss it with the freebsd devs, sqlite is a standalone dependency which doesnt require another daemon running, so indeed a better default...

anyone using zen4?

sqlite is almost always better default unless the machine is a intended to be a server. Then it's less of an issue. But on a desktop laptop I don't want to run mysql / postgres / etc.

You can also easily optimize sqlite kerkour.com/sqlite-for-servers