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any suggestions for freebsd hosting?

take your vm provider of choice and put freebsd on it

i just found the /commercial/isp link on freebsd.org

there are providers

i'm going to try to make myself a nice detailed step by steyp guide i can use to install freebsd from scratch and set up everything i need to make it my web server

and once i'm done, i'll wipe the test machine and follow my steps and see if it is a follow-able, repeatable guide

and if it is, then it will be time so start browsing surplus servers and see what I can find

hey there! i am thinking of moving to freebsd, is there anything to know about nvidia before i join in?

i've installed it on amd hardware in the past#

loureir-or-not: you still around?

yes

nvidia has an official driver for frebd

I am fairly sure the Handbook covers the Nvidia GPU support

it does yeah

Let me have a look, and see if anything needs a side-note from me

its like, `pkg install nvidia-drm`, some sysctl.conf changes (?) then done iirc

i feel like the ports system does what i want with gentoo but i am not confined by the limits of windows

i will admit, i love windows when i'm not doing anything crazy

handbook says "nvidia-driver" is what you need

and one line added to rc.conf

i was close

still really convenient that FBSD has official nvidia drivers

I'm on an AMD Card for my FreeBSD machine right now

maybe that will mean that wayland works perfect (not sure though actually, maybe its different there)

Yeah, downloading directly from Nvidia can get you more up to date versions...

i am fine living on i3 though, i've done it before.

loureir-or-not: I run Wayland on Nvidia with Fedora Linux Rawhide...

Right now I'm in xfce 4.20 on my FreeBSD Machine with X11

interesting

I had a look at the Wayland portion of the FreeBSD handbook and it looked a bit too complicated for me

its kind of a hardware software relationship slot machine

maybe an nvidia rtx 4090 + nixos will work but when you change nixos to arch it completely fails

(nixos-unstable mind you)

but if you change out the card for a 4080 on arch... it will for some reason work?

thats what i believe to be the hardware lottery

either should work fine on Arch, or any other Linux

it should, for some it just doesnt for whatever reason

seems like you need to send them to me. I will test them for you. For a LONG Time ;)

right, be prepared to witness satans cable management (in my pc)

its clean at first, but you open the back and its another world

the contrast between whats perceived as heaven (the glass side panel) and hell (the back side panel)

anyway, getting the freebsd mem stick image (using a philips usb) right now

sorry for the religious derail

wish you the best on your adventure

cheers!

I'm setting here bored, so let me know if you need any help

i can i determine what version of freebsd i'm running?

"about this mac" for bsd

oh i literally found 'about this sytem' in kde, problem solved

GoSox: uname -a

hey! freebsd is installed now!

though... after enabling i915kms qnd nvidia-modeset, my screen freezes

is it because i can't enable two things at once?

well... two modesets?

you get the idea

there can only be one

popping back in just in case anyone answered the question w/o my knowledge

i had the router shut off

there can only be one

oh, gotcha

ill use the intel drivers

booting into recovery cant be crazy harx

its just renounting i hope

what recovery are you talking about? 'single user mode' ?

Emacs has saved me lol

managed to use single user mode enough to fix my video issue

currently on nvidia drivers, seems intel drivers just freeze on boot

On a new system I'm downloading gitup via pkg to get the ports tree. I only need to build graphics/drm-kmod so it seems over the top to fetch the entire ports tree or is it mandatory to get the whole thing?

you only need the ports you want to build and the support inftrastructure they need from the ports tree, not sure if it leads to problems if subdirs referenced in top level or category makefiles are missing, but the ports tree is just recepies and not that big, about 1G here or ~3G for the full repository with history

vyryls: haven't used gitup for quite a while, but you could do a git clone with depth 1 to keep it as small possible as you only need.

Cos I doubt you could selectively (and quickly) fetch only those you need + the support infra.

on an intel Mac, I would tell it to boot off of a USB freebsd installer by holding the option key at boot, and then choosing the USB drive from the list of drives shown

how would I tell a 'generic' intel computer to boot off my usb freebsd installer? Like an HP rackmount x86 server?

GoSox: Early in the boot process, try pressing F1, F2, F10 or ESC. See if that gives you a menu to choose boot device

i don't have a non mac computer at this point, i was just wondering how its done on non-macs

if this test machine is successful, ill be buying probably a used hp server

Depends on the BIOS

do i want to add a new user, the first user on a new install, to any specific groups or just go with the default setting for the group?

i think later in the process ill have to add this user to a group to get the GUI working, i forget the details for that though

the handbook says you should be in video for Xorg, maybe you want your user in the wheel group and not sure why I decided to put my user in the operator group (maybe for shutdown)

wheel does sound familiar

ok thats enough freebsd config for one night

my poor macosx server is getting crushed by syn floods nearly constanatly, and it has hard drives with bad blocks. Its running out of time, i need to buckledown and get freebsd up and running

go ahead and deploy FreeBSD ghere

there

lol i gotta learn how to install it and set it up before i deploy it :)

OK

the VPN is probably going to be the hard part

but i'm onwhere near that point yet

but i'm taking top notch notes

harder than any other parts ?

i would think so

that's probably erroneous assumption

here's a very on-topic question. The "memstick" download is about 1.5 GB and the "dvd" download is 4ish GB. What is the differnece between them?

packages

mzar if i'm wrong about the vpn setup being hard, that will be great

I believe so

mzar oh btw i was talking about a vpn server not a vpn client

I've been wondering if I could dual boot freebsd on the void laptop... which raises the question, do I have the prerequisites to get that working at all?

I've got my fat32 "boot" partition for Linux, after all, and I have zfsbootmenu and refit which should both be able to load up a kernel and boot them

so I _think_ I can just shove BSD kernels into my existing partition and give 'em enough to get the ZFS module up and running

it is supposedly possible to boot the kernel with the kexec mechanism, but I believe they have to be built as ELF like on ppc64le. there is very little documentation about it for non-ppc

hm

I suppose worst case I can just grab a spare USB drive and boot off that to play with it

also on PPC I believe ZFS may not be working because it's not using the bootloader

well, this is an x86-64

i would not expect zfsbootmenu to know anything about freebsd

no, it would not

i guess it's a question of whether it needs to understand the linux kernel specifically

which I guess comes down to whether kernel command line arguments are passed in the same way, which is probably not the case

which brings me to refind I suppose

then there's the problem that zfs has an idea of what's supposed to be the root fs, so I'd need to make sure that freebsd uses its own root

probably not a worthwhile project compared to just installing it on an SD card or something

I like to give a try to emwm windows manager. I have in .xresourses settings for terminals. Is this okay? How are other settings? Complicated?

Is anyone familiar with flashing an Ergodox keyboard on FreeBSD? I'm rather new to FreeBSD and I'm getting tripped up on the part of adding udev rule files since it seems there's no such thing as udev here.

devd should cover most udev use cases, but it will work diffrently of course

mountainman1312: Do you have some guide you're referring to? It might be faster to just boot into Linux or Windows for some one-off keyboard programming. NOTE: VirtualBox on FreeBSD can also pass-through USB devices like keyboards.

I've tried a few different ways. Tried following a guide just for QMK, also tried following the guide on the kb manufacturer's website. I think you're right, I'll just ask family to let me use their windows machine for a few minutes

mountainman1312: There's a QMK Discord that might have ideas.

mason: I'll check it out, thanks

mountainman1312: discord.gg/a9YUq9HT fwiw - proprietary platform, but sometimes you have to go where the community is

Yeah not a big fan but oh well

I'd avoided it for years but then had a job earlier this year that used it, so I had no choice.

mountainman1312: I remember having flashed a custom QMK firmware on FreeBSD...

That was using dfu-util, which is working fine. But it will depend on the concrete bootloader your board has. I suppose it should work exactly like on Linux. I guess the udev rule is just giving non-root access to the USB device node. You can probably just skip that and use sudo/doas