weird i got 2 different graphical linux distros installed on it and i3 runs just fine wtf

sharing directories between host and jail, the most I can find on the subject is you use nullfs(5)

but having this in fstab when jails aren't running is annoying... so is there a way to call mount_nullfs on the host when you start a jail?

interesting en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walnut_Creek_CDROM -- The software assets of BSDI (FreeBSD, Slackware, BSD/OS) were acquired by Wind River Systems in 2001, and the remainder of the company renamed itself "iXsystems".

walnut creek cdrom - slackware elisoftware.org/w/index.php?title=File:47851-06507.jpg

walnut creek cdrom - freebsd reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2F…5d34cb701972bee223741f08db520c62543

lol i'm pretty sure just about everyone "back in the day" had a copy of "the complete freebsd" laying around

mine has unopened cdroms in it

hehe

good times

and walnut creek turned into iXsystems.

why do i have in my mind that ghostbsd was created by iXsystems

?

oh its pcbsd

Ober: Is that you??????

Ober: Is that the "Ober" from #Linpeople?

hi

please help I'm running 14.2 with kde: the lock screen freezed and I'm unable to switch to any console using CTRL+ALT_Fn. Thanks!

crt alt f1 not working ?

it's hung

mzar: exactly, CTRL+ALT+DEL works

in a typical FreeBSD RAIDZ setup, all the disks in a pool are bootable, aren't they? Or is it common to have one boot drive and several "data" drives?

Posterdati: i915 or drm-kmod by any chance?

jemius: in "enterprise" setups it's much more common to have two mirrored boot disks and a separate pool. in smaller setups people might boot directly from the raidz though -- although i don't know off hand if that's even supported

ivy, it seems I'm booting from a RAID-2 (mirrored disk), but for whatever reason only one drive can be used to boot, so it's kind of pointless

Maybe I should get a third drive for the OS, and use the existing 2 as data pool. Then I'd just have to learn how to remount a data-pool on a new machine in case the boot drive ever breaks

"raid-2" isn't a thing, if you mean a mirror that's raid-1 (although zfs mirrors are technically not raid 1)

mirror, then

importing a pool from another system is easy, just connect the disks, run "zpool import" and see if the pool shows up, then import it with "zpool import -f" (you need -f to force it to import a pool from a different system)

cool

when adding a factory-new drive to a system, does one have to format / partition it on FreeBSD, as on Linux?

On Linux you do: fdisk and then mkfs.ext4

if you're adding it to a zpool, no, you just use zpool-attach(8) or zpool-add(8). if you want to use it as a UFS disk or a boot disk (with either ZFS or UFS) then you should partition it with gpart(8)

(the reason you need to partition it to use it as a boot disk on ZFS is that you need to create the EFI system partition, which is separate to ZFS)

so you just do zpool ... /dev/mydrive

yes, that will cause zfs to partition the disk itself (using GPT) with one partition that covers the entire disk, then add it to the pool

Alright, then I think the installation process got me confused a bit. Though I still don't get why only one drive boots... maybe I should do an experiment by just copying the boot sectors byte-by-byte

i usually prefer not to do this though -- i create a partition which is slightly smaller than the disk itself in case i need to replace the disk with a different label later

because not all "8TB disks" (for example) are exactly the same size

s/different label/different model/

jemius: do both disks have an EFI system partition?

usually every boot disk needs an EFI system partition, like this:

[39!] hemlock ~% df -ht msdosfs

Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on

/dev/gpt/efiboot0 260M 688K 259M 0% /boot/efi0

/dev/gpt/efiboot1 260M 688K 259M 0% /boot/efi1

they should have identical contents and you need to upload the EFI loader on both when you upgrade the OS

no, that's no EFI. Very old machine from 2007

i don't think the installer sets this up by default, although i've never actually configured any raid in the installer before

okay, if it's not EFI the same thing still applies but you need the BIOS boot loader on both disks

this is a lot more hassle to set up (and i don't know how to do it off hand)

Ah nevermind, I think I'll just go for the third disc solution

But just for my understanding: what is that RAID menu in the installer even supposed to do? Just set up an initial raid pool, but without redundant boot?

One thing I rely on Linux for is printing to my label printer. It's annoying, because I usually create the labels on FreeBSD. This is a Brother product, with a magic blobs, executing in 32-bit context on linux.

How would one best setup a "clean" way to print under FreeBSD? With 32-bit support being dropped soon, would that rule out running a 32-bit Linux in a bhyve, or will that still be possible? Should one go with something wierd like booting up bochs from the printer spooler?

my 2 cents: even on Linux I rage-quitted and just bought a printer that supports AirPrint. Works without drivers -> win

It's a label printer, which works great and probably will for the rest of my life. I doubt any newer product would beat it.

I've never played with the Linux compability layer, but I guess that would be a non-starter in the longer run. Given that there will likely never be anything but 32-bit drivers.

jemius: actually, it does seem this product does support airprint! you're saying that's possible to use with freebsd?

from what i understand of airprint right now, it's an apple thing. which compared to brother seems like stepping out of the ashes and into the fire.

|cos|, that I don't know – but AirPrint liberated me on Linux. So the chances are good

jemius: ah. gotya! i'll search around. thanks for teaching me about the existance of it.

ivy, paste.debian.net/1338649 that's what my GPT looks like

Is there any way to control per-program volume? I'm using EXWM, have installed gtk-mixer dsbmixer and pavucontrol. None of them are allowing me to change per-program. Any ideas?

i just upgraded to 14.2, and while that went smoothly, /etc/os-release still says VERSION="14.1-RELEASE-p6" VERSION_ID="14.1" while the ssh login banner and uname report 14.2

hi everyone, I'm trying to overcome a routing problem in my network due to lack of support in my wireless router and isp router to configure static routes. My idea is to have my freebsd box as default gateway for my network but redirect all traffic that is not destined to the static routes to the isp router to get out to the internet. do you guys

think this is even possible?

forgot to mention the box is in the same network as the isp router with a single ethernet interface

Grabunhold: did you run `freebsd-update install` a second time after rebooting into the 14.2 kernel?

|cos|: yes

# freebsd-update install

No updates are available to install.

# awk -F= '/VERSION=/ {print $2}' /etc/os-release

"14.1-RELEASE-p6"

so your system is up to date Grabunhold

mzar: shouldn't /etc/os-release reflect the fact that it's 14.2?

uname -K ; uname -U

1402000

1402000

Grabunhold: it's updated by rc script and is a symlink to /var/run/os-release

FreeBSD supports NVMe, doesn't it?

yaes

i'm hoping the production server i whip up this winter has an nvme boot disk and a second backup boot disk

ok

kde on freebsd is a mess...

CTRL+ALT+FNx did not work

ya i got 2 x nvme zfs mirror for my root

Posterdati: that's a long way from 'a mess'

yes

ssh login works, but xorg is kinda dead (nvidia geforce 610m)

it happens after monitor went off

Posterdati: huh ?

HER: it should be something related to screen blanking, nvidia and xorg

did you install the nvidia driver ?

and loaded it

it should just work

Posterdati: Did monitor went off _after_ you exit from Xorg?

are any problems with freebsd-update -r 14.2-RELEASE, please

nsoci: no.. only (maybe) with intel gpu i915kms

anyone know why X/i3 choke to death with matrox G200eR2?

but remember you can always create a snapshot before upgrade

and you can always rollback too (freebsd-update rollback)

l00py: what you mean ?

i run i3 on intelgpu and no problem

are problems with drm-kmod (from 14.0 to 14.1 i didn't have problem)

her ok but intelgpu isn't matrox g200er2 no?

l00py: it isnt, but intel gpu is "shit"

so i guess anything should be better than intelgpu =p

you might be wrong

possibly

but just try it.. try with nomad

nomadbsd

live OS

l00py: can you upload your Xorg.N.log somewhere?

ukky ya but it would have to be in a few hours. that ok?

l00py: whenever you can

ukky ok tyvm

ukky: no

I assume zstd has mostly won out for ZFS compression by now?

w

hat

for ppl that don't use X, how do you get a proper term? like just using the raw vt we don't get mouse cursor for copy paste, and we don't get scroll buffer and basic stuff like that