and ath9k is not supported...

nimaje: I think formally we only guarantee from N-1 major release, but typically N-2 will work as well

wasup gentlemen

How do I do IPv6 in PF? Just like with IPv4?

Any caveats I should know before?

ScrewDriver1337: be mindful of ICMPv6, IPv6 relies on it pretty heavily (path MTU discovery, etc), much more so than IPv4 does on ICMP

and of coure, read The Book of PF, if you haven't already :-)

debdrup: I just thought you all had a system and I didn't want to interfere. ty

Well, currently I dont know jack shit about IPv6, so I gotta disable it completely

ScrewDriver1337: without checking the manual, i think 'block in quick inet6' / 'block out quick inet6' should probably work

alternatively, configure your network interfaces with "inet6 ifdisabled" to prevent them bring up ipv6 at all (this may even be the default, not sure)

I need to secure my NFS and other services. I know IPv4 and can trust my knowledge here, but I cannot say same for IPv6

So until I learn IPv6 - I will block it

greetings all, i am planning to install FreeBSD, is it gonna be hard work?

probably not

Bushmaster: its easier then you think. like easier then some linux installs.. probably eaiser

excellent, can I install it in Proxmox VE?

thanks jb1277976

jauntyd: I've no clue what you're on about :)

Installing FreeBSD, so far all going fine

Bushmaster: \o/

just a quick question Hecate will UNIX commands will work in FreeBSD right?

I borrowed a book from library, its old book in UNIX Commands, I wonder those commands will work with BSD

how old UNIX? from the 80s? 90s?

freshports.org/editors/vscode ugh... no quarterly, it seems latest always has the built ports, is it better to use latest on desktop then?

Bushmaster: how old is the book?

Bushmaster: in general I'd recommend getting a book about FreeBSD proper, or even just getting the manual

I should really start contributing to the port tree :/

question, if a port has a maintainer, and the maintainer hasn't yet submitted a patch to bugs.freebsd.org, is it fine for you to write a patch to update/fix it and then submit it to bugs.freebsd.org?

I installed FreeBSD but something gone wrong

I can log in with user and root account but it keeps throwing me some message

bsd ntpd[687] : error resolving pool 2. freebsd.pool.ntp.org : Name does not resolve (8)

this looks like a "kernel" message, these are always printed on tty1

is your network setup properly?

the message keeps coming every after minutes

well i declared statis IP 192.168.1.75, default route 192.168.1.1 and netmask 192.168.1.0/24

do the outputs of `ifconfig` and `netstat -rn` look ok?

the netmask looks strange.

and then it ask for resolver configuration and i put down bsd.unix.com and DNS 1 : 192.168.1.1

left DNS 2 blank

netmask should be 255.255.255.0

i could do 255.255.255.0

yeah i did that but it did something i cant remember so that i thought i go with 192.168.1.0/24

so you think this caused the issue right

may be should go with DHCP then to save all the hassle

kill it and reinstall again?

it looks like a thing to me. dhcp is the easier part, when you have a dhcp-server in your network

it canot connect to internet or do SSH now

yeah gonna kill it now

you could fix it docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/network/#config-dynamic-ip-v4

i just killed it

gonna install back on in Proxmox

go with DHCP this time

that issue is gone but now new issue

if i type su it wont let me root

saying sorry

how I can be root then, i did declare root password during installation

"Sorry" would indicate you typed the wrong password

Bushmaster: the user from which you are trying to 'su' should be in the 'wheel' group

i did put user in wheel group

wheel doesn't get sudo access out of the box, you need to modify sudoers with visudo first

This is about su, not sudo.

Bushmaster: and if you do 'id' it shows you in the wheel group?

hang on

Bushmaster: the user is not in the wheel group as you can tell

now that I cannot get into root, I am screwed to fix this issue right?

You can get into root by logging in locally on the machine, I would hope. :)

Or via SSH, but that's (iirc) not enabled by default

so reboot this VM and put root and root password right

isn't uid=1000 in wheel by default?

now I logged in as root but this machine where i am talking to you folks is Debian and I cannot ssh as root from this machine like before

but I am root in FreeBSD, can you help me resolving the issue so that when I log in as user I can do su

pw groupmod wheel -m cattish

should add cattish to the wheel group

let me see oprs

ridcully: his username (cattish) has uid=1001, so I'm guessing multiple accounts were created for some reason

i got the command prompt back oprs

oprs first time when i installed FreeBSD i messed up the manual IP hence this is the second time in VM hence it could be the reason of two cattish

no idea though

oprs: that's why i asked - i assumed a different user was added and the user with uid=1000 might be used to recover via ssh

yeah

what I should do now, I executed that last command oprs kindly provided and I got command prompt back

Bushmaster: try the same ssh command again, you should be able to use su now

from this Debian machine I am using you mean

I mean from bushmaster, as before

yes it worked, but let me send you the link

oh no

it wont let me in

yeah, that's because you're trying to connect as root

what you should do is: ssh cattish⊙111

then use su

oh yes, you folks are cool, it worked, i got it hehehe dpaste.com/DXSTLSTZB

is it okay I hang out here and learn

ilearnt more here than from that old book

sure, hey which book is that btw ? just curious

Beginning Modern Unix, Manish Jain, Apress Publication, 2018

sorry, its not a BSD Book

oh it's not that old, I was expecting something from the 80s :-)

anyway, if you want something more FreeBSD specific, you probably want to read the FreeBSD Handbook: docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook

so what is the command to update the system, surely its not apt update or dnf upgrade hehehe, is it pkg update

let me check

great, it has pdf version as well, just downloaded it, very good

thanks a lot

yw !

how to update the system

Bushmaster: pkg is for ports (third-party software), in current version it does not handle the base system, you probably want freebsd-update command for that

that might change in future if we get pkgbase by default (slated for 15.0 release, but we'll see)

you folks are BSD Developer I think

hang on let me utilize that command

do read the handbook chapter on freebsd-update before using it

okay

it just showing colon sign, may be doing something, dpaste.com/7DPRCLSYY

Bushmaster: it's showing you the changes it would bring using the pager (e.g. `more`). press `q` to quit the pager if you are fine with the changes

oh okay thanks ridcully and then issue that command from the hand book page 636 freebsd-update install right?

for some reason my FreeBSD guest vm does not receive any DHCPOFFERS when attepting to configure the vtnet0 interface using dhclient

DHCP works fine for a linux guest vm on the same host system with the same host network configuration

anyone have a tip for how I could debug this?

i think update is done dpaste.com/7U4QUZHPQ

thanks a lot folks

i am happy and you folks being BIG BIG HELP

I will be around anyway

one thing i just noticed it cannot shut down if i issue shutdown now

it comes up with saying Enter Full path of shell or RETURN /bin/sh:

what tools do you guys use for presentations

slides and stuff :)

polarian: pdfpc

to actually make the presentations, anything that can generate pdfs

GPLv3 :/

anything _more free_?

aka not copylefted

what about LaTex?

psycorama: already planned to write it in latex the issue is presenting the pdf

something minimal, lightweight and permissive

aaah, i misread that

wait beamer exists...

i have a raidz2 with 8x 7200rpm SAS disks, and when copying the files to a Samba share from a Windows client (10GbE, 9k mtu) i only get ~550MB/s at most. if i copy files from the share that are in the cache i get ~1GB/s, so i don't think the problem is a network issue. is this the typical performance i should expect from this array? i thought it would be a bit faster given the individual disks can do at least 120MB/s sequential i/o each

a long time I noted performance bottlenecking between samba and windows. Using samba between BSD and either FBSD or Linux performed better, maybe even 50% better (this was back in the 2000's though) with equivalent hardware. Still you have spinny drives and writing is always slower than reading, eespecially if they are 'shingled'

ivy, for "spinning rust," I'd say 550/MB/s is pretty freak'n amazing.

s/\//

ivy: thats all I'd expect for writes. thats 90 MB/s per drive which is pretty close to max. if you're not using a large recordsize you may get a bit more, or maybe a bit more from adding a metadata vdev to reduce iops on the HDD but I wouldn't bet on either. you may also be bandwidth limited by your system bus, or your HBA

That would be a really old HBA

it's not a bandwidth limit, i get ~1GB/s if i read from data in the ARC. but i could believe it's just the practical limit of 7200 rpm disks

was mostly curious what sort of speeds other people get

when i tested these disks they did about 120MB/s each in sequential write (but i know zfs needs to write metadata as well...)

fwiw the HBA says: PCIe Width/Speed: x4 (5.0 GB/sec)

i'm not entirely sure what that means because no PCIe version does 5GB/s over an x4 connection

maybe it means 5GT/s, which would be right for PCIe 2.0 x4

(so 2GB/s)

A single lane of PCIe 2.0 is 5GT/s

right, 5GT/s per lane, x4 being 4 lanes, so minus overhead 2GB/s total

((5*4)/8)*0.80 = 2.00

Right, my bad, B vs b

but anyway this HBA is pretty old (as you can tell from it using PCIe 2.0 to begin with :-) so that could be a factor even if it's not reaching the theoretical PCIe limit

hey all I have a gateway/router with mpd5 that has re0: local lan 172.31.5.0/24 em0: backup 4G network, igb0/fib1: PPPoE connection, igb1/fib2: PPPoE connection, is anyone able to provide me with a link to a basic nat setup for just dealing with twe two pppoe links fib1/2 for packet filter?

they both have the same gateway ip hence the different fibs

ivy: I read this article a few days ago, allthingsopen.org/articles/noisy-zfs-disks & it gave a lot of info on how raidz works, and some of the constraints, would like to know if its useful for you too

which package contains -if any- the legacy rcp, rsh and rexec ?

pretty sure there is one and that the update notice listed it, but I don't remember, you could use freshports to search for rcp in pkg-plists

nimaje thanks. so if you search using pkg-plists you search for files contained in the package ? freshports.org/net/bsdrcmds

each port (except for shitty exceptions) declares what files it will install statically, mostly via a file named pkg-plist and sometimes via some variables in the ports makefile (if there are only a few installed files), freshports lets you search for those statically declared files (and the ports framework will complain in stage-qa if it doesn't match what really gets installed)