nimaje: i managed to power through an 11.2-BETA -> 15-CURRENT last weekend. I wasn't sure it would make it all the way but it did

nimaje: tried to just do it with a make buildworld using source but found out that wasn't going to work (11.2 too old even for source upgrades)

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aquamo4k, You may have been a good candidate for this upgrade technique: lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-…uestions/2024-September/005729.html

i have two FreeBSD UNIX 14.1 laptops and mostly the same packages: working on making them the same. When I installed libcddb on the other, it said 'this port is deprecated [...] multiple services have been shut down'... but I saw a bug report of another operating system that uses it that you should just change the server it uses ( bugs.archlinux.org/task/76105 ) from freedb.org to still-existent gnudb.org ? Does the package maintainer for FreeBSD

know this or should I report it to them somehow?

When you installed it did it give you a message that the port was lacking a dedicated maintainer?

no

Looking at freshports.org for libcddb it says "This port expired on: 2024-07-31" which I don't know what that would mean.

i see

The port maintainer is listed as multimedia⊙Fo which would seem to be a mailing list probably lists.freebsd.org/subscription/freebsd-multimedia

As you can tell I don't know anything and am exploring things right along with you.

okay

I think it is definitely worth an email at least or a big ticket in the system for it. It would keep the port useful for people out of the box.

are protobuf, protobuf-c part of FreeBSD base system now? I have them installed as separate packages on my old laptop but can't seem to be able to install nor list them on the new one, though 'pkg info' says they're installed ('pkg list -a' doesn't list them)

I meant to say "bug ticket" before, not big ticket. Noticing that now. I don't think protobuf* is in base. Almost everything of that sort has been put into the ports system. You can tell things that are both ports and base because they programs will exist in both places then.

ssh is an example. It's in base. But there is also an openssh package with a slightly newer version available to install. If installed as a port then both are installed but the port is in PATH earlier.

oh, so it might be a port, not a package?

All compiled binary pkgs are source ports.

The auto-builder builds the port into a binary pkg.

yuripv: I didn't try yet, will do so during the weekend, which starts in only a few hours from now anyway.

So until the workday ends, I'll have OpenBSD booted up instead.

so, a linux contributor got swat'ted during streaming

which one of you did that?

all eyes are on the bsd community...

jnth: My mom swatted a Linux contributor during a stream.

Hi, my usb audio dongle works sometimes and others it does not. How can I know which sound system I am using and how can I restart it? thanks

aquamo4k: but you mean an upgrade there, not running -current on 11.2 in a chroot or similar?

mmm DOSBOX was hijacking the dsp device

hijack0r3d

I'm looking forward to the new pcm(4) which'll let devices share it.

nimaje: yes, full, manual upgrade of baremetal system (old supermicro server with two zpools, one for boot)

rwp: ack, neat idea, will see what that is like sometime

Hola my peeps

hola!

thick jails share the same kernel as the host right? do if my host needs a kernel modulefor networking i dont need to isntall it in the jail right?

OwlWizard: all jails use the host kernel, so the module can only be loaded on the host and cannot be loaded in the jail. whether you can use the module in the jail depends on what exactly it does

ok that makes it even weirder that i cant bootstrap pkg in the jail

im new to jails if you cant tell

does your jail have a resolv.conf?

i think i copied it from the host as the guide said but ill look

The host system kernel for the jail handles the networking. The host system needs to be able to network. A (non-vnet) jail then shares the network with the host.

TCP/IP networking means _numbers_. DNS converts names to numbers. The network might be working but DNS not working. And then people think the network is broken but it is just DNS misconfigured.

so yea i do have the resolv.conf

it still has a address resolution failed problem

is the nameserver reachable from within the jail?

im not much familiar with networking so i dont know how ot check for that

Can you describe your jail? It's a normal thick non-vnet jail sharing the network with the host?

its a thick jail with the enviroment of freebsd 13.3 it should have the normal networking tack (so not vnet)

can you pastebin it's jailconf section?

it has ivp4 but not 6 as i didnt get arounf to it

i think i can post it just wait a sec

I still don't have a working IPv6 here either. :-(

yea i just installed freebsd a week or so ago so i dont know much et

atleat i can code on it

if you care about architectures and licensing I would use another BSD

you're gonna need "mount.devfs;" at some point

Are you setting defaultrouter in the jail's /etc/rc.conf file?

rwp: that isn't neccessary

Okay. How is it not necessary?

All of my jails are currently vnet jails. I have mostly forgotten how non-vnet jail networking works. Does it inherit that from the host?

its not neccesary for vnet jails either, at least with normal setups, like if you're using a bridge for your vnets. None of my jails have networking things in their rc.conf

OwlWizard is re0 the interface your host is using ?

yup it is

dhcp?

its a realtek chip

I move network setup into the jail.conf too. But that includes setting a default route.

dhcp is on on the host

the realtek chip required installing a kernel mdule as it is to new for the standart kernel

sorry for my bad spelling btw

rwp: yeah and on a non vnet jail all the networking is the same as the host, it's IP is just an alias. so the routes are the same

aquamo4k: well, what sidh did was a bit diffrent, chrooting into a 14.1 system from a running 12.3 system (and from what they did only cat didn't work)

would there need to be a pf rule to be able to NAT out of the jail?

Owl if you add allow.raw_sockets you could try pinging your dns host so you know if it's getting any network at all.

Heyy everyone. Does anyone know how I can prevent dhclient from changing my resolve.conf file?

dhclient changes it with resolveconf resolveconf.conf can turn this off. You also can override the DNS answers from DHCP in dhclient.conf

sorry resolvconf and resolvconf.conf

duskmoss: ok thanks. I guess to turn off resolvconf, I just need to add resolvconf=NO in the resolv.conf file.

in the resolvconf.conf file

not resolv.conf file

(tricky one that ;) )

ohhhh, you saved me right there

duskmoss: ok works, thank you :)

np

Hi, I waiting for the progress freebsd is fully supported the VisonFive 2.

OwlWizard: are you running pf? have you configured pf to NAT packets from the jails?