I think I've learned usedbysnapshots before but it completely fell out of my brain. I left the house and am itching to confirm

yep, 12.4G used by snapshots

I don't necessarily agree that it's required (since freebsd-update supports HTTP caching), but if you've ever wondered how easy manual updates are, here's an article: blog.feld.me/posts/2024/07/updating-freebsd-the-manual-way

I'm trying to get  retroarch working, its not downloading the core list ? any idea why I might not work?

anybody on weechat?

it seems the docs, user.en.html is in german

can someone corroborate?

someone who uses weechat, go to file:///usr/local/share/doc/weechat…weechat_user.en.html#relay_commands and check if its german

correct

that for me?

llua: Is that "correct" for me?

I went ahead and reported the bug anyway

Hey, is anyone else using Oracle cloud? I have a freebsd machine on ARM64 there, and was wondering if there's any chance of success upgrading it to 14. ? 13.3 works, is there any real reason to run 14.0 or 14.1 ?

maybe no reason to upgrade unless there's a feature or some improvement you specifically want

you could update to 13.4 though

well not qite yet, but soon

Neutron7: i use oracle cloud

i have not used freebsd-update from 13 to 14

perfect, thank you.

Hiya. Is there a documented procedure that I can't find for upgrading thin jails per 17.2.2 in the handbook?

also 17.5.2.

There IS a nod to upgrades in that section, but I think they assume things are mounted writable, and changes to things like /var and /etc that would be handled by mergemaster are not covered. My jails are modeled after the original jails-applcation.html. :/