02:19:35 I think I've learned usedbysnapshots before but it completely fell out of my brain. I left the house and am itching to confirm 05:15:46 yep, 12.4G used by snapshots 11:20:13 I don't necessarily agree that it's required (since freebsd-update supports HTTP caching), but if you've ever wondered how easy manual updates are, here's an article: https://blog.feld.me/posts/2024/07/updating-freebsd-the-manual-way/ 12:07:29 I'm trying to get  retroarch working, its not downloading the core list ? any idea why I might not work? 17:07:56 anybody on weechat? 17:08:09 it seems the docs, user.en.html is in german 17:08:18 can someone corroborate? 17:11:33 someone who uses weechat, go to file:///usr/local/share/doc/weechat/weechat_user.en.html#relay_commands and check if its german 19:53:45 correct 20:03:15 that for me? 20:03:30 llua: Is that "correct" for me? 20:03:49 I went ahead and reported the bug anyway 21:18:17 Hey, is anyone else using Oracle cloud? I have a freebsd machine on ARM64 there, and was wondering if there's any chance of success upgrading it to 14. ? 13.3 works, is there any real reason to run 14.0 or 14.1 ? 21:49:52 maybe no reason to upgrade unless there's a feature or some improvement you specifically want 21:50:24 you could update to 13.4 though 21:50:42 well not qite yet, but soon 22:11:23 Neutron7: i use oracle cloud 22:11:57 i have not used freebsd-update from 13 to 14 22:31:24 perfect, thank you. 22:51:44 Hiya. Is there a documented procedure that I can't find for upgrading thin jails per 17.2.2 in the handbook? 22:56:25 also 17.5.2. 23:05:10 There IS a nod to upgrades in that section, but I think they assume things are mounted writable, and changes to things like /var and /etc that would be handled by mergemaster are not covered. My jails are modeled after the original jails-applcation.html. :/ 23:05:15 https://web.archive.org/web/20070609125644/http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/jails-application.html