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how do I use a serial line printer?

with freebsd

i can send raw ASCII text to it and it will printer... very slowly

but the text is wrapped wrong without anyregards to words fitting. it's just wrapped at a character limit.

does freebsd provide a solution for this?

i've tried setting up cups and while it does kind of work, there's significant phasing effects which make it difficult to read vs just sending ascii to it and it takes 12 hours to print a single page even at the highest vaud rate

hello?

is polling(4) deprecated? the list of supported devices only seems to include FE and GE cards, i would have thought it was most useful on 10GE cards

if i see i have package X installed, is there an easy way to query how X got on installed, e.g., directly installed, required by packages A, B, and C, etc?

markmcb: pkg query '%a' pkgname; 1 means auto-installed, 0 means manually installed. beyond that, i don't think so other than just looking at its reverse dependencies (%rn)

lw: thanks

anyone playing pokemon on freebsd?

i'm playing poudriere: gotta build 'em all

lol

markmcb, great reply!

How do I set gtk4 theme on FreeBSD, all the traditional methods (settings.ini or gsettings) both do not work... the only thing which works is GTK_THEME env variable, but setting this will not help when it comes to launchers such as rofi

settings.ini works for font but not theme...

application I am trying to get working is dino

Hello , during my last upgrade , i have some truble with mate desktop, I haven't hour or the four virtual desktop, how to fix it ?

Hi, experiencing very low read speeds on a ZFS pool for reasons I don't really understand -- where should I start looking for the cuase?

cause*

discs are a mix of WD82PURZ and WD221KFGX

everything is configured as mirror vdevs

I see something abysmal, like 2mbps. encryption is on, i set ashift to 13. beyond this I did not change much

over LAN, about 10mbps write speed -- the 2 is read

lw ping

How do I get all the notices and messages that were shown when I did a 'pkg upgrade' ? I just want to see the notices and go over them.

never mind, RTFM

pkg info -D

thanks V_PauAmma_V, I was looing in the pkg-upgrade man page and didn't find it in there.

which dir do ppl put postgres data in?

man hier doesn't really say where to put data files that servers write to

alepzi: what postgres data are you talking about? That actual database files that postgres creates?

ya

mns

i think /var/ is the elegant place for that

but man hier implies that's for temporary files no?

no, there's lots of permenant stuff in /var

why doesn't man hier reflect that?

you can move it to wherever the fuck you please

ya obviously but i'm asking what others do and why

i think it does, but i'm open to improving it "log, temporary, transient, and spool files"

maybe "generated daemon/server data"?

i put it on its own partition, but leave it i /var/db/postgres

hier: /var/db "autogenerated system specific database files

but mhorne asked me to leave hier alone for a while, I worked on it all winter.

imo generated is different than autogenerated but ya that's fine

nice ty!!

rtprio: you put it in /postgres?

that's not what i wrote

rtprio: that seems like a very sane place to put it

hier isn't perfect; some things don't perfectly fit

ah so /var/db/postgres is a zfs filesystem

some software authors just reject it all and go for something like /opt or whateverthefuck djb does

alepzi: or ufs, but yes

do you make /var/db/postgres its own thing so you can put specific quotas on it?

so i know exactly how much space is being used. so it won't run /var or / out of space. in case the system ever grows such that it needs its own disks, many reasons

nice

he has a point. the entry for /var/ in man hier could also include the word database without going over and folding onto another line.

*sigh*

/var/ database, log, temporary, transient, and spool files

i also put service generated data in there too

daemons

but stuff running system wide, through rc. not user applications

i am open to adding the keyword database to the var entry if others

I know weigh in positively.

but, tweaking hier can be pointless and just offend everyone. we don't want to move fast and break things here. we don't like churn. new users read hier and see what they want to see, so many different backgrounds and languages. i mean it has a db subdirectory.

people use freebsd because they want stability and consistency.

i would just keep in mind there's nowhere else in all of man hier that's explicit that system applications (service/daemon like postgres) can write data there

and that's a regular purpose of a server

or even desktop

seems vague. data gets written everywhere?

but does it?

like applications get written to /usr/local/bin

ya well that's documented. application DATA isn't

yes absolutely. how the "there" even get there in the first place? it was written

missing the point but ok

well, application data is absolutely written where it goes, i know because i wrote it myself.

that said, applications are sometimes hardcoded with specific assumptions as rtprio was saying earlier

"k"

"k" seems maybe we had a misunderstanding, sorry.

np

many elements like this are just convention. something like man hier is designed to distill those conventions for the user but there are too many conventions and intuitions to all be codified there

if they were all codified there, there would be no need for a user, all configuration would be automatically specified everywhere already.

ya and i'm just saying i've run into this for years man hier doesn't explain ONE place where daemon application generated data should go

so just go by the conventions you are familiar with such as /var/db

i think it really depends on the user to make a judgement about it

given that it is indeed an application

what do you do when a daemon pkg doesn't come with an rc.d script?

what kind of speeds shoudl I expect with the zpool I describe there?

machine has 32GB RAM, coffee lake, CPU usage is pretty consistently low

mewt: i guess i would expect close to 100MB/s, but i don't know. are you accessing it over NFS?

100MB/s for read

jbo: hi

:o

lw, I have shell questions

can a rc.d script set an environment var for the command?

shouldn't you be able to just pass the ENV variable as you invoke the command?

jbo: what's the question

lw, how/where does one set environment variables that will be accessible to a GUI application launched through a launcher rather than by "manually" opening a shell and launching it from there?

i would put them in either ~/.login.conf or in your .xsession / .xinitrc, or since i use Wayland i just put them in my normal shell profile

lw, so env FOO=BAR in either .login.conf or .xinitrc?

in .login.conf it would be "me:setenv=FOO=BAR:", in .xinitrc it would be "FOO=BAR; export FOO"

yeah, I'm still (always) confused by that

I wish I'd understand that more better

isn't this shell specific?

sort of, but all shells (sh, ksh, zsh, ...) use this syntax except for csh which has its own

im trying the quickwit pkg but it doesn't have a rc.d script so i'm trying to hack my own shitty 1 in. termbin.com/b6c1 when i try sudo service quickwit start it says quickwit does not exist or is not executable

i have /etc/rc.conf quickwit_enable="YES" fwiw

thansk lw

thanks*

alepzi, what does "ls -l /usr/local/etc/rc.d/quickwit" show?

-rw-r--r--

root wheel

heh

sorry

That's your problem. As the message says, "or is not executable".

i checked the bin to be +x hehe

oops

there any reason a rc.d script should be +w?

why would a service fail to start (messages log says root: /etc/rc warning failed to start quickwit) but after i ssh in i can run sudo service quickwit start and it works fine?

then if i reboot the jail it says the same but root is replaced with alepzi

so weird

figured out the username issue. so real issue is just that this service quickwit start works manually, but not on system boot

but i have other services that do autostart right, like unbound

my /usr/local/etc/rc.d/quickwit file is termbin.com/1dvy and /etc/rc.conf has quickwit_enable="YES". sudo service quickwit start works, but on bootup it fails to start with "root: /etc/rc warning failed to start quickwit"

jmnbtslsQE: sshfs

rsync was 11 or so, still not 100

ok this is weird. looking at the jail's console log in the jail host between restarting the jail. when the jail is started up, it "cant assign requested address os error 49"

but after jail is started, sudo service quickwit start doesn't cause that error

same config file and everything is used obviously

so is there a bug in jail or vnet that when it's starting up it fails to let networking work?

ffs wifi

I've got an ipv4 address of 192.168.70.4, how do I setup a ipv6 address on that same system? I have a Comcast gateway, but my freebsd system has a static address.

mns: try 'ifconfig <interface> inet6 accept_rtadv' and see if it auto-configures an address

if it does, you can either put that in /etc/rc.conf, or configure a static address in the same network

lw: that didn't do anything.

Can anyone recommend an IDE within the ports to program in C and Java?

hmm. I like eclipse

thank you

RoyalYork: there's also netbeans, intellij, intellij-ultimate. I don't use any of those. I use Emacs. There's also Vim.

Im currently using VI (should look into Vim), but I want something more gui based for now

is VSCode in the packages? Or will i have to compile via ports?

Cant find it int he package repo

vscode wont be available in ports. Vim is Vi IMproved.

is that true? it looks like its been in ports since 2019

RoyalYork: There's GVim

I'll have a look, thanks

Title: FreshPorts -- editors/vscode: Visual Studio Code - Open Source ("Code - OSS")

ackthet: you're correct. I was looking in ports/devel/ not in ports/editors/. 'pkg search' doesn't show anything for vscode either.

freshports says we have vscode in ports and not in pkgs.

is there a way to automatically have ipv6 configured? In macOS you have configure ipv4 manually and ipv6 automatically (which I presume is like DHCP)

my jail's /usr/local/etc/rc.d/quickwit file is termbin.com/1dvy and /etc/rc.conf has quickwit_enable="YES". sudo service quickwit start works, but on jail startup it fails with "root: /etc/rc warning failed to start quickwit". in the logs it says "cant assign requested address os error 49" but after jail is started, sudo service quickwit start doesn't cause that error. so is there a bug in jail or vnet that when it's starting

up it fails to let networking work?

is there any audio to text software available?

no

xFCFFDFFFFEFFFAF: are you sure?

no

"no u" then...

my jail's /usr/local/etc/rc.d/quickwit file is termbin.com/1dvy and /etc/rc.conf has quickwit_enable="YES". sudo service quickwit start works, but on jail startup it fails with "root: /etc/rc warning failed to start quickwit". in the logs it says "cant assign requested address os error 49" but after jail is started, sudo service quickwit start doesn't cause that error. so is there a bug in jail or vnet that when it's starting

up it fails to let networking work?