lw, So I booted FreeBSD and got the IPMI SOL Serial Over Lan console working pretty quickly. So yes it was better. But... Mostly because the FreeBSD dmesg allowed me to figure out that the SOL is on uart2 aka 0x3E8 COM3!

With that information I pointed the /boot/loader.conf settings to comconsole_port="0x3E8" and immediately had a fully working FreeBSD over IPMI SOL.

And then having that proved to be working I swapped disks back to the Linux boot and reconfigured it for ttyS2 all around and Linux console then worked over IPMI SOL too.

I am working on a Supermicro X9-SCM-F for reference and it's SOL is uart2 aka COM3. TIL that the SOL port is different on different IPMI implementations.

Time to write all of this up into a document so I can publish it on the web site and remember it later!

FreeBSD has /boot/loader.conf which is used by the boot loader and by the kernel so FreeBSD is much easier because one place configures everything all at once. With GRUB and Linux it's in the GRUB config but in that config in two different places so not quite as nice.

If I have an app that is working differently under linux emulation on FreeBSD vs under a linux bhyve is that a bug that one resports (I assume the bhyve is right)

depends on the behavior which differs I would guess. Even different linux kernels running natively might exhibit differing behaviors across their ABIs, right?

yeah, if it were me i'd just file the bug report; the worst we can do is think about it, then reject it if it's working as intended

I think it might also depend upon just what is different between the two things too.

good morning, i posted bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=278045

my first attempt at a port, a few weeks back. should i do something else but wait now?

|cos|: #freebsd-ports on efnet might be a better place

tykling you still use your old way of recieving backup snapshots? like you did with zfs_mirror_targethost tyk.wiki/Ezjail_host if possible can you show be your as im battling a bit with it /etc/periodic.conf

Title: Ezjail host - TykWiki

Puzfire: Could it have been freshports.org/sysutils/zfs-periodic ?

Title: FreshPorts -- sysutils/zfs-periodic: Simple way of maintaining zfs snapshots using the periodic system

hi, programmers, hackers, foss and unix enjoyers. Are you having a good day? :)

well i think he implemented some of it, but scriptet a bit himself and locked it down so dest with pubkey logs on to source server, checks snapshots, and if new and ok, grabs it to backupserver and stores it there

aldcor: absolutely :)

debdrup i use it alrdy to take daily, weekly and monthly snapshots local, its the the backup part with send | recieve i need to make work of ;)

aldcor any day is a good day with freebsd :D

Puzfire: it is tricky, what is not working?

it is fiddly getting everything right

Puzfire: oh right! I think that's why my days are having less fun.. I lack freebsd in my life probably, heh :)

i have the backup server running and it can ssh root@myservertobackup with the /home/zfsget.sh as you say on url

debdrup: thanks! i'll try finding my way there.

and on source i have my snapshots, but cant see how my backupserver can go to source grab the snapshots to gelipool/backups/source-snapshots

so i mix up a bit what should be on server and what should be on the backupserver/ pzbackup user :)

Hm, is today the Danes take over #FreeBSD? ;)

anyway using sway (wayland) on freebsd and everything works as expected?

s/anyway/anyone/

Puzfire: it is a "push" model so the backup server receives over ssh, initiated by the backup sender (the server having the files which need backing up)

it sounds like you might have configured SSH the wrong way round if I am reading you right

aldcor: i'm using sway and it works for me. There's even a section in the handbook about configuring it.

tykling: is there a reason to not go with a pull model?

debdrup: do I understand correctly that sway will work without any nvidia driver installed? (i got nvidia on this machine)

tykling i tried visualize here paste.sh/HehhS4n5#K9tbLZXlWZTB62-Xqfc_P97s

Title: paste.sh · encrypted pastebin

aldcor: that I don't know, I use an Intel iGPU

if it works without nvidia driver on linux, isnt't it correct to assume that it will work on freebsd also without nvidia driver?

tykling its a pull model, so my server wont have access to the "backup" but the backup server connects to my server and pulls the snapshots home to a jail on backupserver"

aldcor: the linux driver is built on top of the freebsd driver by nvidia, if memory serves - so yes, that sounds reasonable

i do see mention from a few people around the internet who're doing it, and the ones who've documented their process don't appear to me to be doing anything special for the nvidia gpu

debdrup: Jag er ikke dansk. Jeres har mistet Malmø. (For English speakers: probably non-translatable, my Danish is bad.)

aldcor: i will also note that there's even freshports.org/graphics/nvidia-drm-kmod to try out, if the regular driver fails

Title: FreshPorts -- graphics/nvidia-drm-kmod: NVIDIA DRM Kernel Module

debdrup: yeah, ideally I would not touch nvidia driver at all

wait, VimDiesel .. is this name taken from Luke's thumbnail? :D

|cos|: and yet we scandinavians are virtually indistinguishable to anyone but ourselves :P

I doubt it.

I also don't know who this Luke is.

regular driver.. Isn't it part of kernel? I was assuming I wouldn't need to touch ANY video driver since I would use wayland/sway

aldcor: the DRM drivers aren't part of the base system, as they're taken from Linux and run using something called the Linux Kernel Programming Interface. The LKPI allows FreeBSD to use some Linux drivers (currently GPU drivers using the DRM interface, but it's also being adapted to use Linux wireless drivers).

So typically you just install the DRM driver for your GPU (basically, just installl graphics/drm-kmod and it'll take care of most things for you, you just have to tell it which driver to load), and that's all that's really needed.

I see, thanks for clarifying this

dunno if i got it right, or your "document" only supports push, even so i read it as pull ;) tykling

are people using something like this? I would guess it's probably for games but I haven't heard people playing games on freebsd nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/199660/en-us

Title: FreeBSD Display Driver – x64 | 525.89.02 | FreeBSD x64 | NVIDIA

oh, nvm. I read on forums that people use this and it works great. And it seems like none of them are gamers

After pkg upgrade in 14.0-RELEASE-p2 I no longer can run InkScape: ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libjxl.so.0.8" not found, required by "libGraphicsMagick++.so.12"

freebsd should work on m.2 ssd with no problems right?

yeah

meh, the only `downside` is Bitwig not in ports (repos?) but I probably could dual ssd or smth.. but as for the rest I really enjoy what I read in handbook

hm, so gcc is in freebsd ? I had an impression it was completely removed

aldcor: where do you see gcc in freebsd base?

I am reading this and got curious freebsd.org/status/report-2023-10-2023-12/gcc . If I want gcc in freebsd it's possible right?

Title: The FreeBSD Project

those are ports

and yes, if you want to use gcc you can, it's just not bundled in base

oh I see, good to know

The FreeBSD base system is fairly minimal, consisting of the kernel, libraries and a userland big enough to do maintenance of the system, build the system, and develop for the system. Everything else is provided through the ports system, which consists of roughly 40000 ports that are also built into binary packages for ease of use.

and despite the name, "ports" are often just upstream versions of software compiled on freebsd without any additional porting

some things require some porting, but many don't

yes, I'm aware of that but thanks for clarifying even further

martinrame: inkspace works okay for me, in what i believe is higher than 14.0-RELEASE-p2

...and with that i'm confused. since /etc/os-release claims 14.0-RELEASE-p4 while `uname -a` says -p3. that just means i have not rebooted since a kernel upgrade?

dstolfa: yeah, the vast majority only need things like SHEBANGFIX to correct use of /usr/bin/perl and /bin/bash

the big thing about the ports system is that it completely ignores whatever build systems the upstream version uses, so any exploit like the most recent issue with liblzma that require careful exploitation of the build system simply wouldn't apply to freebsd (even if the exploit wasn't specifically crafted to only work on linux)

that's not to say it's impossible for a three-letter agency to develop a threat attack that would work, but it's probably more work than finding a single overworked hobby opensource developer who they can attack

cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=cb9d4bb1fb oooo

Title: src - FreeBSD source tree

cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=75eda0096bf more oooo

Title: src - FreeBSD source tree

I'm getting ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/share/ungoogled-chromium/ungoogled-chromium: Undefined symbol "_ZN6snappy11RawCompressEPKcmPcPm"

on update to ungoogled chromium today

on 14.0-RELEASE

ungoogled-chromium 119.0.6045.199

dch: the same happenned here

After pkg upgrade in 14.0-RELEASE-p2 I no longer can run InkScape: ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libjxl.so.0.8" not found, required by "libGraphicsMagick++.so.12"

mmmm

yes, this is the first time an upgrade break things on RELEASE in years. I'm upgrading this machine since 10.x

snappy might be fixed by reverting to 1.1.10, other apps report similar

Title: `snappy-1.2.0` provides `libsnappy.so.1.1.10` with different function signatures. · Issue #35 · conda-forge/snappy-feedstock · GitHub

yep this worked for me

martinrame: `pkg which /usr/local/bin/inkscape` gives inkscape-1.3.2_2 like mine? libjxl-0.10.2 exists here.

|cos|: it gives the same version of inkscape

Hiya! I wonder, what would be a recommendation for a small DNS server to just name the machines on a local network (with static IP addresses) and have reverse name look-up work on them?

|cos|: but the error mentions this: Shared object "libjxl.so.0.8" not found, required by "libGraphicsMagick++.so.12"

|cos|: so, the problem is not Inkscape, but libGraphicsMagick++.so.12

martinrame: "/usr/local/lib/libGraphicsMagick++.so.12.7.0 was installed by package GraphicsMagick-1.3.40_5,1" ?

|cos|: /usr/local/lib/libGraphicsMagick++.so.12.7.0 was installed by package GraphicsMagick-1.3.40_2,1

Hi. My USB SD card reader was working fine, but has stopped recognizing devices as they are inserted. I know I could reboot (MS solution) but what is the daemon that takes care of this stuff?

I'd much rather restart only the component of my workstation that has crashed rather than lose all my windows. :/

gh00p: pciconf or usbconfig can be used to detach/attach the driver or offline/online the device if it's supported, that might work.

martinrame: i have no idea how the latter part of the version number works, but 2,1 sure seems lower than 5,1

martinrame: there is something in the history at freshports.org/graphics/GraphicsMagick/#history about rebuilding consumers of graphics/libjxl

Title: FreshPorts -- graphics/GraphicsMagick: Fast image processing tools based on ImageMagick

1 2

ok, seems like it works :) i just installed freebsd and typing from tty now. I also installed handbook, but can you tell me where is it installed?

oh, nvm. found it

debdrup, thanks for responding. The device in question is just an SD reader built into my workstation that worked perfectly (as da2) until yesterday. Then suddenly I stopped seeing anything in messages when I inserted a card. When I use camcontrol to rescan (per the umass(4) manpage) I  get "CAM Status: Invalid Lun" errors. Should I just give up

and reboot?

camcontrol might also be able to power off and on the device, or reset it.

I can't remember if MMCCCAM was actually merged, so it's possible that CAM won't work.

I think meena might know? I seem to recall seeing their name associated with it.

i used links after all to read handbook

I'll reboot. See you shortly!

allright

tykling the document tyk.wiki/Ezjail_host#ZFS_snapshots_and_backup is doing push snapshots? so main servers connect all to backup server and sends all its snapshots on destination? is that correct read

Title: Ezjail host - TykWiki

ok, so far the tty experience is great. Good os

waiting KDE to finish installing. hopefully X will start

i added nvidia conf file too, so.. it should work

Puzfire: yes, all servers connect to the backup server over ssh and push their backups, that way you don't have to open up root SSH into all your servers

debdrup, I've discovered that bsdisks (launched by dbus) dumps core when I insert SD cards. Didn't happen two days ago. I'm not sure how to proceed. USB drives don't seem to be a problem (or require bsdisks to be running).

@s

when I try to login to root via konsole (using login and then entering passw) it says login incorrect. Why?

what's with bugs.freebsd.org

keep getting "software error: can't connect to the database. Error: FATAL: remaining connection slots are reserved for non-replication superuser connections"

postgres database is overloaded. that's an error I get when I hit one with too many requests...

course, I suppose that error message could be from another database, but it sure reminds me of postgresql verbiage.

aldcor: you already got it, but 'pkg inf -l $pkgname' shows all files installed by a pkg, I need that one every single day.

pkg inf -l en-freebsd-doc; further hier(7) lists the location of en-freebsd-doc since it's so necessary

it's crucial to my survival

concussious thanks. I now understand why you got this nickname

MMCCAM has not been merged yet into GENERIC yet, there's GENERIC-MMCCAM for testing

lolol

There's lots of outstanding bugs, that I can't link ,because bugzilla is being… maintainenced.

any of you using cbsd? I'm really liking it as an overlay for jails AND VMs in FreeBSD.

on the system my resolution is great without even adjusting/changing anything on fresh KDE install. However, firefox title bar, address bar, bookmarks, setting text etc. is super small

how would I apply same resolution systemwide or I guess firefox-wide..

kde and gnome use different libraries. you have to change appearance with the GTK syles/libs

firefox uses GTK

Title: Firefox minimise and full-screen buttons missing since switch to Wayland - #2 by jinliu - Help - KDE Discuss

not perfect, but may be a pointer in the right direction.

Package for linux's ent util?

is fs(5) the ufs man page?

or is that describing like a fs simply called fs which evolved into ffs evolved into ufs?

Are people aware that Bugzilla is down?

ohh, is GNATS being re-introduced?

matthewp: works fine

xmj: can you try refreshing an issue a few times?

For me it works every few times

I often am getting this: "Error: FATAL: remaining connection slots are reserved for non-replication superuser connections"

Like it's out of connections to the db maybe?

looks like it

laidback_01: thanks for recommended site, however, I solved this issue with global scaling

very easy fix actually

Hello everyone!

I beg your pardon, but there is one question I still would like to ask, even tho I have been looking for an an answer through google or talkai. Is it possible to boot an installation ISO from GRUB without an USB stick. Right from the hdd. Well, if someone could clarify it straight away, I would be very grateful. Thanks for reading through.

waited all of 6 minutes

realdeimos: not really, they joined back

seems more likely a disconnect rather tan a tiktok-brained moment

Carbon666, I think you should simply try it. Then please report back as to success or failure. I think it should work.

I am not using GRUB with FreeBSD. But I know that people do multi-boot FreeBSD with Linux and often use GRUB to multi-boot and it works for them.

is there a reason a package in the ports tree wouldn't show up in a pkg search? i don't see ports-mgmt/synth when doing pkg search, but I see it in the ports tree

(using 14.0 RELEASE latest)

markmcb: Some things can't be built as packages.

markmcb: ...given licensing.

Not sure if that's the case there.

markmcb: FWIW, it does exist in quarterly.

So evidently if it's missing it's not a license issue.

you see it when you run "pkg search synth"?

maybe latest version not yet built

markmcb: in quarterly: bpa.st/W2JA

Title: View paste W2JA

Oddly, I didn't see it listed at FreshPorts, but I do see it on the github mirror.

weird, i haven't seen it for days now. maybe its a build timing thing

Sounds like a reasonable answer.

rwp, I need kernel arguments, somehow it breaks. Well, I can try to install the DragonFly onw

one

and will try to fetch the right arguments to boot