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Hey folks; is there any way for me to start a steam process as my steam user without completely closing my wayland session and relogging?

I'm running wayland btw so xhost doesn't seem to be working

wayland is not x11/xorg.

That's why xhost does nothing in this case.

yeh I was just guessing that steam might be running in xwayland

it does work if I totally relog into my steam account but ideally I wouldn't have to do that every time I want to launch steam

er steam user, per the linuxulator-steam-utils instructions

is there a way to benchmark whether running freebsd from a usb 3.0 stick compares with running from sata ssd

The mostly ad-hoc standard file system benchmark tool is "fio". You could benchmark both and compare them.

Title: 1. fio - Flexible I/O tester rev. 3.35 — fio 3.35-6-g1b4b-dirty documentation

Maybe something similar to this type of command: fio --name=random-write --ioengine=posixaio --rw=randwrite --bs=1m --numjobs=1 --size=4g --iodepth=1 --runtime=60 --time_based --end_fsync=1

I realized I can just use another vtty

can anybody shine light on why there is samba413 and samba416 in the pkg repo?

are the two fundamentally different?

anyone ever experience a machine shutdown, a nfs fstab not being valid and not being able to access the client afterwards?

i had a major power failure, killed my synology and now one of my computers won't boot.. because nfs shares no longer exist

i take it the only real way to fix it, is a physical connection to the machine.. as i can not ssh in. unless anyone has ideas?

what is it actually stopping on?

nfs

it is a rasbperry pi headless.. it looks like i have to go this route to fix: forums.freebsd.org/threads/etc-fsta…-error-now-dont-start-freebsd.11348

Title: /etc/fstab error, now don't start freebsd. | The FreeBSD Forums

note to self.. make sure to START labelling machines, so i know which one to unplug..

Oh no!

ugh

yup, lesson learned

it looks like partion is not aligned.. last thing the machine does is detect keyboard

start_init: trying /sbin/init and that is it

did you forget to (or choose not to) use 'bg' in the fstab entry?

i will default to not use bg as i was not aware

i did the 192.168.0.220:/volume1/ports /usr/ports nfs rw 0 0

but the machine attached to that ip is dead and looks like machine won't boot now.. so i got into The "boot" loader

without bg, it'll wait forever for a server

i can see the file.. i can not edit the file as there appears to be no commands i can use

well that explains that and something i should resolve, in the future

if you can get the loader prompt or menu, you may be able to boot to single-user

on the single-user console, you can fsck -p / && mount -u -w / and then edit the fstab (e.g. using ed)

however, this depends on loader and kernel agreeing on where the console is

okay, let me see if i can get it to boot into single user mode

i did a boot -s and i am stuck at same spot

let me slap a boot -sv to get a littel more verbose and see if that brings up anything

i wonder if this dumb uboot thing hsa something to do with it

if console output stops when init is started, it usually means the kernel console and user console are pointing to different places

since init will do input and output on the user console

let me try another hdmi port

user console might be set to the serial port

do you have a console setting in loader.conf ?

let me check, my gut says no.. but better to confimr

trying to see content of file.. in this boot

i do have video output and if i move to another hdmi port, i get no output.. so i "believe" i have the right one

Title: The U-Boot Documentation — Das U-Boot unknown version documentation

well just joy. this is probably not going to be easy

part of me just wants to reimage this machine

you can show loader vars at the boot prompt

just 'show' will show all vars, 'show console' to show just the value of the 'console' setting

Dual Console: Serial Primary, Video Secondary

ok. problem is that the user console is only the primary one

how are you doing input? usb keyboard?

yes

i can interact with the system, through the usb keyboard

I don't recall if that even qualifies for console input, but I guess you can try it

user console input, that is

anyway, try swapping the primary/secondary consoles

okay, let me see what duckduckgo brings back

set console=vidconsole,comconsole

boot -s

booting..

never gets got the single user mode...

frustrating part i can see it load /boot stuff

but no edit tools available yet...

what fbsd version?

13.2

hardware is a raspberry pi 4 with 4 gigs of ram.. using the image from freebsd.org

what's the last thing you see on the console?

detection of the usb keyboard

and before that?

but before that the loading of my nic card genet0

and before that?

hold on, let me boot again

Dual Console: Serial Primary, Video Secondary

before that Warning: no time-of-day clock registered, system time will not be set acurately

even after setting console in the loader?

let me try again to double check

or just set console=vidconsole if you don't have anything attached to the serial port

booting with that

still saying the Dual Console thingie

it appears to ignore my console variable all together

what exactly did you do

i waited till i got Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt

i stop the process

Then i am presented with: Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help

with a prompt that says OK

does that work on rpi?

I'm using that on a RPi3.

ok, worth a try then.

I have a RPi2 with a serial console.

okay

i will try that

i take it set console=efi

boot -s ?

stops still

err

i am about to just reflash this toy sd card

and lesson here.. be better at nfs mounts

you could pull the sd card, mount it on something else, edit it, and put it back

I've also commented out boot_multicons and boot_serial.

i am going to get crap for this..

i only have a mac

lets see what hapens

hrm an only get to the MSDOSBOOT partition

but i do have this config.txt file

that's for uboot, iirc, I don't recall exactly what you can do there

Title: Raspberry Pi Documentation - The config.txt file

but it is locked

hrm.. i wonder if i can find that file on this raspberry pi that IS working

RhodiumToad: thank you for your patience

and your assistance, i think i am going to go to the reimage route

and just use this one to build out the newly reimaged one

config.txt won't help you

yeah, a new image may be your best bet

writing now..

lesson learned.. do better with NFS shares when i get the new server operational

second one.. do not assume a synology will last more than 12 years :)

the interesting project.. have one in the house (setup as a NFS server) then have one in another building on property for backups

but thanks again, learned some tricks on boot menus and loaders which i did not know about before

she is now booting up again

'bg' is almost always your friend when it comes to nfs mounts. the only thing to watch is if you have services that have data on the nfs partition and which will re-initialize if they find it missing.

since if the mount becomes available after boot, that can lead to it mounting over already-open data, which can become messy

yeah, i was using mounts for git blink video backups and /usr/ports hierarchy

nothing too fancy

we got ssh operational, time to move back to "server room"

at least i did not lose my tmux nvim settings

that would of been painful

freebsd-update ..

does a lot of checking.. definitely not like apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y

tmp_: have you ever had "weird" reporting of cpu speed for your raspberry pi.. mine keeps default to 600mhx and NOT 1500mhz

apt-get upgrade -Uy is more like pkg upgrade, freebsd-update is for the freebsd system that is not in a pkg

so i'm trying to mount smb using rclone in fstab and i can't seem to figure out how the helper is supposed to work

in linux you'd just symlink rclone to /sbin/mount.rclone

but the same trick does not seem to wrok by symlinking rclone to /sbin/mount_rclone to act as a helper. or is my understanding wrong here on how fbsd does it?

voy4g3r2: I have a RPi3 report dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 1200/-1 600/-1 and flips between them as expected with powerd running.

tmp_: so it is always dependent on load when it flips back and forth?

Essentially. I haven't looked into powerd for a very long time. I've just been making sure it runs.

ah

i am getting this: forums.freebsd.org/threads/raspberr…-2-and-dev-cpu-0-freq-changes.90759

Title: Raspberry PI 4 Release 13.2 and dev.cpu.0.freq changes | The FreeBSD Forums

it is running.. so i guess i just have to trust it is working..

Compare "sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq" with "sysctl -a | grep dev.cpu.0.freq ; sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq"

Or some other command followed by " ; sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq"

oh interesting.. now showing 1500

i guess i will just shutup and close that thread out

One of the notable features of arm is how easily it is to get to its idle frequency. So, some load in the background, or immediately after enough loads ends will still have it at its performance frequency. Otherwise, you'll generally just see the idle frequency.

good to know

but as i got this machine operational again.. i think the "cloning" pkg between both can wait till another day

thank you again for your help tmp_ and RhodiumToad

is there a disadvantage or advantage to having your graphical terminals (foot, xterm, etc) be login shells vs not

rtprio: these graphical terminals aren't shells, they're terminal emulators (that run a shell).

rtprio: people usually don't run their shells as a login shell inside of them, there's not much of a benefit in doing so.

rtprio: the advantage is that you start with a clean environment. the disadvantage is that you start with a clean environment. :)

rtprio: anyways, unless you KNOW you want a fresh login shell, don't use one.

rtprio: A login shell reads /etc/profile and one of ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login or ~/.profile - what you usually want to run when opening a new terminal window is just ~/.bashrc in contrast.

rtprio: (That's for bash, not csh, but you get the idea)

anyone encounter zerotier 401 error on freebsd 14.0? service zerotier start ok,i can see the zerotier on top

hi, I'm new to freebsd, I'm using gpg-agent with pinentry and I would like to use the qt program, I've installed it but when I execute it always shows the cli version. I've followed the doc and created a symlink to it but seems not to work

sdmm: The path to the pinentry program is about the only thing FreeBSD specific here. You'll need the file ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf to have a line to set the default, such as: pinentry-program /usr/local/bin/pinentry-qt5

IIRC, it defaults to "/usr/local/bin/pinentry", which comes from the pinentry package, which in turn uses "pinentry-curses".

tmp_: thanks, I couldn't find that on the docs, I will check but I'm sure it works, I did it on linux time ago but I forgot

np. I've had the qt5 and gtk2 versions installed and have been using gtk2 when something broke in qt5 a while back (early 2019, apparently). I meant to switch back, but never got around to it. And a quick check just now has the qt5 version working (probably fixed long ago), although it started up minimized.

cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-backup-res…-list-of-installed-freebsd-packages <-- if anyone has a machine that goes down and want to replicate package list from other machines, great article!

tmp_: working here too, thanks!

Did yours start up minimized? Or is that just me?

there's no pkg method to install kernel headers?

Macer: the publicly used kernel headers are installed by default.

meena: i believe i unchecked that box because i wasn't expecting to build

but now i am and i can't seem to figure out a sane way to install the src

Macer: nah, that's src

hm

download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/amd64/13.2-RELEASE ← src.txz

Title: Index of /ftp/releases/amd64/13.2-RELEASE/

replace architecture and version as appropriate.

ok

guess my actual problem is... fatal error: 'fuse.h' file not found

trying to build rclone so i can manage to get mount_rclone to work in fbsd

and mount from fstab

have you tried pkg install rclone?

yes but i have to change the src to get it to work

because putting it in helper mode is hard coded into rclone

Title: Unable to create FreeBSD helper for fstab mount · Issue #7432 · rclone/rclone · GitHub

7432 – Blackbox upgrade 0.34.4 --> 0.35.0 bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=7432

but i guess i need fuse dev headers and there doesn't seem to be a pkg in the repo for that

Anyone in here been running FreeBSD on Adlink's COM-HPC Ampere Altra?

oh. guess fuse.h is actually part of kernel src / base

ok still not working

:|

maybe i can just report it as a bug for the pkg. it seems like an easy fix but i guess i just don't have the developer skills to build it myself with cmount

ok. RIP patience heh

Title: rclone does not mount on freebsd-14-current · Issue #5843 · rclone/rclone · GitHub

5843 – `mount -p' did not report the MNT_NOATIME flag bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=5843

if you did a pkg install, there should be no need to change anything

it is a binary package

guess they disabled it by default and requires a cmount flag for building but for the life of me i can't get it to build with cmount

voy4g3r2: mounting in fstab doesn't work

it is hard coded for mount.rclone and i guess fbsd looks for mount_rclone

okay.. ln -s mount_clone mount.rclone

nope. tried all that :)

just a thought, if it is looking for a thing, just symbolic link to it

although i went the other way. i symlinked mount.rclone to mount_rclone

d

but i'm guessing that still won't work

yup. same problem.

like i said. the call is actually hard coded to be mount.rclone which you can change in freebsd but i guess freebsd has issues with calling it like that so you need a cmount flag which requires fuse.h which i guess i don't have for whatever reason. this is far too much work anyways just to get smb client support.. i just thought it would be cool if i could finally mount something > smb1 with fbsd since rclone seems to work quite well with unprivileged debian...

... containers

ln -s /usr/local/share/comic-neue/30-comic-sans-aliases.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d/

ln -s /usr/local/share/comic-neue/30-comic-sans-aliases.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d/

maybe i missed the begining but is it necessary to use rclone?

oops sorry

Macer I know what you are going through on discord and IRC feels like your talking to yourself. Only thing you can do is wait or keep googling or ask somewhere else but don't mention freebsd and they probably can help

Just saying

Macer, have you checked forums.freebsd.org to see if anyone else has addressed this

Title: The FreeBSD Forums

Finally found stable drm-515-kmod drivers for my 6750 XT!

armin, rtprio, People use login shells in terminals because something before that was screwed up. They did not get their profile environment files read at login time. Using a login shell forces that for subsequent shells. It's not needed if people got their login environment read at login time.

Many of us log into a vt console and then the shell reads one of .profile, .bash_profile, .login, dot whatever for the login shell. Then we start X and the environment is inherited. That's the classic way.

But if one is using an xdm X Display Manager then people are logging into X through one of those xdm (gdm, lightdm, slim, etc.) and that does not source any of the files I just mentioned. Logging in through an X Display Manager xdm like say lightdm will read .xsessionrc file instead. So for X logins the .xsessionrc file is somewhat-like a .profile.

rwp: +1

rwp: Everything you said in the last 3 messages is 100% correct.

Since that is missing for many people they force terminal emulators to start login shells so that the layered on bash will read the .profile at that time, since it missed getting the environment through the more correct chain.

That's also why many people put almost everything into their .bashrc file. Since it was missed in the X login process. And being in the .bashrc then every new shell will get it then. But to me that is not the pedantically correct location to put thign.s

Yea exactly, if you bloat up your bashrc then starting a new shell gets slow. So there's likely some stuff you don't want to execute on every single invocation.

I really should spend some time writing up how the login process gets stuff set up and post it so that I can point there rather than ephemeral IRC lines. Ah... That life and time keeps everything from happening all at once problem.

You explained this absolutely great, thank you.

Thank you for the kind words armin! They are motivating. :-)

:)(

voy4g3r2: mount_smbfs only supports smb1

although .. i'd have to check. i believe they obsoleted it altogether.

ie: removed it from base / existance heh

Macer: That's a huge problem for me that I did not find a good solution for.

armin: well.. rclone is a decent solution. you can always do messy ways to daemonize it

but it should work in fstab .. but doesn't. :/

Macer: yea I had a look at rclone, it's what me and a good friend currently use for our common SSH share...

Macer: When looking at the code I almost had to puke, though.

but as a client. there is no way to use smb2+ in fbsd heh

Macer: We've been using sshfs for years. :(

*no good way

i was hoping i'd sort out rclone but it was fail because i guess some awkwardness where fbsd ver needs cmount baked in

Macer: Good question, it was one of the 2 reasons why I gave up on FreeBSD on my workstation, the 2nd one was issues with my Focusrite DAC...

i thought not being able to use smb was kind of a big deal. but i guess it's not :)

Macer: Which is a bid sad considering that everything else basically was NO PROBLEM AT ALL.

yah

for me the lack of a smb client is sort of a dealbreaker

Macer: same

well.. lack of smb mounting

it's the only thing :) the rest is great heh

My life depends on that unfortunately, I have macOS and Windows clients so I need exactly that.

The cherry on top would be to be able to DJ with FreeBSD, but I guess that will take another decade.

yah. me too.

the smb not the djing

hehe

i was pretty excited when i noticed rclone could do it in userland

so today was quite a letdown

i installed fbsd on an atom i decomissioned to try it again and it was fail. no fuse3-dev in pkg repo

so i couldn't build it with cmounts .. by that point i had wasted about 2 hours on something that would take 20 sec in debian so finally gave up :)

It's so great otherwise, even Wayland compositors just work, everything works absolutely fast, reliably, boots quick, works like I expect it to, it's accessible, I can even set the console font to be large enough for my old ears, it drives my 43" 4k display at 60Hz perfectly, games just work, everything, I just didn't get my audio hardware and smbv2 to work.

well i mean

s/ears/eyes/ damnit

if you have a ui

then they ahve smb baked into those afaik

like the filemanagers i believe

but i could be wrong

I have a large 16 channel mixer and a tiny thinclient which plays music so it's no issue, I can use FreeBSD on the desktop, yes. :)

but still, these 2 little things, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

20:50 [ Macer] then they ahve smb baked into those afaik

hmmmmmm, Thunar on XFCE has something like that, and I believe KDE's Dolphin supports smb:// but I have absolutely no clue what's happening there under the hood

That's a good pointer.

Macer: Yea sometimes it's just these little things. The craziest thing is that I get exactly the same issue with sndiod on OpenBSD. I did not have the time (yet) to look further into that issue, but since generally that audio device just works, I'm pretty sure it's just a minor issue.

Macer: The other 20EUR USB soundcard I have basically just works, though.

I've moved from SMB to NFS myself.

has anyon ehere ever worked with a hard drive, that use to be part of a raid5setup synology, and mounting outside on freebsd

i can see the partitions, that say linux-raid as the file type

when i do a gpart /dev/da0

Title: root@generic:/dev # gpart list /dev/da0Geom name: da0modified: falsestate: - Pastebin.com

this is what it is showing me

nevermind.. looks it is not out of the box, but synology gives me notes to try and do on linux... errr

hrm… why is fuse.h not installed tho?

Macer: i am going down your rabbit hole.. looks like i need fusefs to mount a ext4 partition...

voy4g3r2: doesn't fbsd have a native ext mounter?

fuse is typically last resort

i already wiped fbsd off of it and started installing debian heh

Wat

mount -t ext4 /path/to/partition /mount/path

shouldn't that work?

i can't remember if fbsd comes with an ext mounter

or mount -t ext2fs

ah. guess it does but you have to load the module

hrm..

when i try that it says it is not a valid filesystem type

maybe i am losing it but when i do a pkg install fusefs-ext2

it shows the usually tools e2fsprogs and stuff

they're apples and oranges.. maybe fbsd got rid of ext2 support?

you have to kldload ext2fs first

I am pretty sure that to mount ext4 one must "kldload ext2fs" as described in "man ext4fs".

and trying to mount

mounds

well no it does not.. dmesg is throwing number stuff

number stuff? :)

freaking synology added stuff to make it work with their device

ext2fs: da0p2 wrong magic number 0 (expected 0xef53)

i thought synology used mdraid or something

see number stuff :)

Title: How can I use a PC to recover data when my Synology NAS malfunctions? - Synology Knowledge Center

lvm2

oh

then don't you have to go through all that mess prior to being able to mount?

i'd be surprised if it actually managed to work in fbsd heh

yeah and i just saw this.. Remove the drives from your Synology NAS and install them in your PC. For RAID or SHR configurations, you must install all the drives (excluding hot spare drives) in your PC at the same time.

it won't because unless i have all 3 drives together.. it won't let me

i ordered two more external cases.. but i have to wait till tomorrow

yeah. you sort of need the array for it to use the array

you said 3 disks.. so did you use raid5?

yup

you should be able to just use 2 of them then shouldn't you?

it will be degraded .. but if you're just trying to get the data off of them...

RAID5 was risking to begin with.

yah heh

this is why i live the zfs only life

zfs is pretty wonderful and magical.

that it is... that it is

+1 for ZFS raidz2 or raidz3 which has saved me before. -1 for RAID5 which is okay when everything works but in degraded mode have seen it eat other people's data multiple times. RAID6 is the only safe way.

yeah, you know what is the worse part.. my wife goes, i figured you already had this setup.. whats the problem.. kick the dignity right here

I usually opt for RAID10 in those cases.

That synology page mentions that data might be either ext4 or btrfs so I am hoping that it is not btrfs or let me caution you to be extremely careful recovering as btrfs is subtle like a cat and quick to anger and will bite back if not treated correctly.

RAID10 is a solid and reliable performer. +1 for RAID10 too.

after all this mess.. 3 raspberry pis, each will have 1 3TB drive.. and want to have them backup to each other..like a round robin

but have not gotten there yet

These external cases? I am guessing by the words you used that these are external USB enclosures? Those will work but typically they are not the most reliable things for long term use. Use them. Recover. Then I recommend moving on to something not USB connected for storage.

i had a backup of all of my dvds on this dang thing..

that took FOREVER to rip my collection for backup, to this thing.. along with my cd collection..

rwp: yes, only ooption on raspberry pi.. spend 30 bucks or spend ANOTHER 600 bucks on another synology and i am not going crazy with speeds and such

The beauty of zfs is that it doesn't matter how you plug in the disks, it will figure out how to re-order them.

Brainstorm: I have contemplated using multiple Banana Pis (they have a SATA port) with one drive and using iSCSI over the netwrok to a ZFS host to homebuild a ceph like redundant SAN.

With RAID, you have to be careful to attach both sides of stripped arrays.

rwp: i had a lot of succcess with iscsi on linux hosts.. then i found it WAY easier to just setup nfs on freebsd

iscsi was nice when i had my postgresql database .. about 65 gig in size, doing its magic

nfs + linux would just die and corrupt my database

i lost that play database with the death of synology :(

Running a rdbms on nfs drives is just a bad idea, in general.

I was proposing iscsci for the raw block storage on the SAN side of things then the ZFS host would then assemble those into an NFS for the NAS side of things.

NFS is reliable for many things but I would also not run a database on it. I would put local storage for a database.

thumbs: yeah, found out the hard way and discovered iscsi

but it looks like i lost all this data :(

The advantage of it is the same as with ceph in that there is redundancy to the system hardware level. The disadvantage is that networking, say GigE, is slower than SATA speeds.

voy4g3r2, Why don't you say a few words describing the earlier part of the story about what was working and what went wrong and then maybe someone here might have a suggestion?

okay, i can do that

but i think without all 3 drives "connected" this will work

Use Case: I have a hard drive that was part of a synology RAID5 setup, i can see the partitions on freebsd but when i mount them i get the error message: ext2fs: da0p2 wrong magic number 0 (expected 0xef53) does anyone know how to mount 1 drive of a RAID5 system to be able to "pull" data off them?

Title: Index of /releases/ISO-IMAGES/14.0/

You cannot mount one drive of a 3 drive raid! It is not enough data to do so. Need at least 2 of the 3 drives.

And I would NOT recommend trying a recovery with 2 out of 3 if all 3 are available because if anything breaks then you lose it all. Wait until you have all 3 drives available.

For RAID5 that is. If it is a RAID1 mirror then of course any single drive has everything.

well good thing i have enough usb ports to put it to 1 raspberry

in the mean time, i can read up on zfs because that is what the goal is going to be after i get this data off... if i can

You should, yes.

use case: 3 different devices, in 3 different locations of property.. making them 1 zfs pool is possible?

i NEVER used more than 2tb of each of these 3tb drives...

I would need to look it up to verify but I think with 3 devices you can do either mirrors or raidz1 but would need 4 devices for raidz2 and I would recommend raidz2.

But actually for a simpler setup mirrors cannot be beat. Any single drive then has everything you need. It is SO MUCH SIMPLER and so probably a very good way to go if you have the space.

If you haven't used more than 2TB then I suggest in the future setting up a mirror of 2x of those 3TB drives. It's simple and rock solid that way.

voy4g3r2, I am still waiting to hear what failed in the Synology NAS where things were at some point presumably working?

rwp: the device itself died

after 12 years of use..

So the motherboard on it failed? Gotcha. Well 12 years is a pretty good useful life for such things.

I have a QNAP older than that.

yeah the motherboard died.. got the fast blinking blue light :(

In that case we might assume that the 3 drives are all fully functional. You should be able to recover the data.

I agree with rwp here.

rwp: that is my working assumption

i should have the other 2 external devices tomorrow from UPS

My Q19P is likely going to die soon, that reminds me.

But you will need all three drives all together in order to even make the attempt. Don't try it with one or just two drives. That's starting off at a disadvantage.

rwp: yup and the dang work is going to get in my way

Dang that work thing! :-)

as in the source of income to buy said devices :)

good thing the amazon warehouse is about 30 miles from my house and it can get here tomorrow

i KNEW i should of just gotten 3.. i was hasty

but at least i know the enclosure was detected.. now we wait and work on my side project.

In any case I also suggest that when you work the recovery that you work patiently and take your time. If you are careful you should be able to get everything back. But sudden moves made in haste might break things. Be calm. Think twice and then hit Enter once.

Title: Tarsnap - Online backups for the truly paranoid

yeah, i never did this before.. so we shall see

if i can recover my cd collection and dvd collection, awesome.. time machine backup is an added perk

thank you rwp and thumbs for tips.. looks like openzfs reading is in the future, along with raid5 stuff.. but must go on date night with the wife

more important than all these things

Yikes, my bay is from 2009.

take car!

care!

Good luck! Let us know how things turn out.

I should really get a newer unit, and probably a Synology this time.

voy4g3r2: Yes, let us know.

thumbs, I still have a Hitachi Deskstar running that is showing 11+ years of runtime. It's sibling threw errors earlier this year and I had to retire it though.

I just wish SOHO NAS cases were both more available (there are only a couple of models available at all) and more affordable.

rwp: Noted. I can't afford to lose that data, would you recommend Synology over QNAP nowadays?

I have only heard good things about Synology and if I recall correctly didn't QNAP just have continuing security vulnerability problems? I need to look that up before I actually say it though.

can i install freebsd from debian?

i can get debian to boot my sd card but not freebsd

thumbs, I have taken to buying used rack mount cases and then replacing the loud datacenter fans with quieter ones suitable for my back room.

rwp: You have the room for it; I don't. Heh.

Well, it would sit in the utility room.

nomia, Still trying to get the Banana Pi M3 to boot? Sorry to hear that this has been such a frustrating journey for you.

Anyhow, back on topic.

Unfortunately I don't think it helps that you have Debian booting. What we need is someone who has booted FreeBSD on a similar ARM and have them help out with the procedure.

Booting Debian does prove that your hardware is okay and working correctly. It's just a matter of getting the FreeBSD image correct.

You can't just bootstrap BSD from a linux instance.

thumbs, Of my two rackmount cases one power distributer (the cables to the motherboard) is perfect, and the second one I bought the cables are all too short. Drat! So I duct taped a deskside power supply to the side of the case and am using it "temporarily". But the disk hot swap bays are rock solid so that's good.

I need to remove the too short cables and take a scrap power supply with longer cables and remove and replace the cables. But everything is working with the frankenstein arrangement so maybe this winter I will get around to it and then could close up the case.

rwp: I have an older 1850 with hot swappable bays, I suppose I could revive that, but it sounds like a jet engine.

Must remove and replace the fans with quieter fans! It's the only way to protect sanity.

nomia, I have a Banana Pi M1 (older model of your M3) that would be good if it was running FreeBSD. I don't think I have time today but I will try to make time enough to try a FreeBSD install on it. Have a holiday here this week so maybe will have some time. That might help you out.

anyone seen this before dpaste.org/MvxC2

Title: dpaste/MvxC2 (Python)

im trying to delete two boot entries so my boot/bios can go smoothly

rwp: (: ok yay

i am going to try to make a zfs mirror so i can maybe install freebsd onto that

I have no idea what Macer was doing, but I just built rclone without trouble…

time alignment is never the same but came back to this: rwp and thumbs.. this is what gpart says about that one drive

Title: root@generic:/dev # gpart list /dev/da0Geom name: da0modified: falsestate: - Pastebin.com

not sure if this info would be of any use but it is interesting

jb1277976, I have not see "efibootmgr: efi_get_variable: Bad address" before from your dpaste.org/MvxC2 above but it looks like your efi vars in non-volatile ram is corrupted.

voy4g3r2, Looks like GPT partitioning with three partitions but the sizes don't make sense to me so I must be interpreting the information wrong.

voy4g3r2, If it were me I would peek at the disks using "smartctl -a /dev/da0" (install sysutils/smartmontools to get smartctl) and see what information it provides about the health of the disks.