guys i can't boot into my system. it boots up and when it goes to start xfce its just a blank screen with a cursor at the top left

i took everything tha i put in loader.conf and rc.conf and still nothing. im at the console and i did startx and now no screens

what exactly do you see

im looking at Xorg.log and it says open /dev/dri/card0 no such file or directory falling back to old probe method for modsetting VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter no multi-card-support

i was installing webcamd

thats the last thing

but X was working before?

yes after a reboot it stopped working like 5 mins ago

and you start x with 'startx' ?

nope i have a login manager

lightdm or ssdm i forgot

its a black screen when it boots but i can move the mouse

wierd

i can go to a tty

i find it doubtful that webcamd broke your whole works

yea

do you think its a serivice that started ?

freebsd doesn't start services for installed software automatically

did you build video card drivers?

nope i did pkg install drmk something i forgot

let me print out my xorg log termbin.com/9cal

i think its here dpaste.org/4OGG5

Title: dpaste/4OGG5 (Python)

jb1277976: I haven't dealth with X11 setup in over a decade, and that too, it was on Debian. With that caveat out of the way, I think its one of your X11 setup files in /etc/X11. I don't have it installed otherwise I'd take a look to see which one it might be.

ok

also, wayland is the new thing

seems to work better than X and is a bit easier

does it actually tho or is that hype?

bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255040 < -- its an issue still reasearching

Title: 255040 – Xorg sever terminates with error on 13.0-RELEASE

I found wayland to work really well on FreeBSD, as did X

Guys i'm back in

wb

this is probably bad but i put in my rc.con kldlist="drm i915kms" rebooted and it worked

rc.conf*

I've never used wayland in my life.

jb1277976: there you go. we don't all know what you did. so in a matter of speaking, only use can fix it

question i'm trying to get my microphone i gave up on the internal one a long time ago. me and koobs tried for like a day. i have a usb mic and in audactiy it records on /dev/dsp3 how can i play a sample file on /dev/dsp3 from the terminal to test ?

hey howdy

I have a stupid question. Trying to install node_exporter. I get

```

/usr/local/etc/rc.d/node_exporter start

Starting node_exporter.

nobody is not allowed to log in on /dev/pts/0

```

I think there is a login.conf setting somewhere for this but I dunno.

This works on most of our boxes.

anyone else got a regression in past few months or so on 13.2 amd nvme zfs? back to 12.x kinda behavior with random pauses in i/o

jb1277976:

jb1277976: use `mpg123 -d /dev/dsp1.0 some.mp3` from ports

Will do even I get home. I been doing research and should try a veggie boot then look at device.hints

feurig: stuff in /etc isn't meant to run directly, to start services use the service command

I did `webcamd -d ugen2.3` to make wacom tablet/pen working. it worked but now I see /usr/local/libexec/Xorg :0 -auth /home/user1/.serverauth.2199 taking 200% of cpu. What should I do?

Beladona, Is there a correlation between Wacom hardware being usable & Xorg taking 200% CPU?

.oO( Wonder if the difference is of polling being used instead of some interrupt-driven use )

or some irq storm maybe ?

The IRQ storm should be easy to confirm by looking in "dmesg(8)" and/or in /var/log somewhere

hm, wiki.freebsd.org/WacomTablet seems a bit outdated as it references HAL, but are you in the webcamd group? is libwacom installed?

Title: WacomTablet - FreeBSD Wiki

is there a way to associate MCA errors with physical dimms ? For example, I have this error in the logs: Oct 27 17:41:19 zfs2 kernel: MCA: Address 0x1dcaebb000 (Mode: Physical Address, LSB: 6)

but in the dmidecode output I have no such address range, they are all like: Starting Address: 0x00000000000 Ending Address: 0x007FFFFFFFF

last1, There is "mcelog-178" (never used it myself)

yeah, I did run it but it provides little help unfortunately

people, amiite?

amirite*

FreeBSD defbix 15.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT main-n266290-500196c5c705 GENERIC-MMCCAM amd64

wheehow. we're back in business with my favourite kernel.

that reminds me, I need to polish a few patches…

LxGHTNxNG: people. indeed,

nimaje: libwacom is installed

nimaje: not sure if I am in the webcamd group but I do that (webcamd command) via root. and use wacom tablet as another user.

i'm installing openjdk 21 and it says I need to mount fdescfs and procfs. I already have mounted the linux compat layer fdecfs, and plan to also use the linux compat procfs, will that be a problem?

ah I misread, figured it out

(the linux compat stuff is mounted to `/compat/ubuntu/<whatever>`, so it won't collide with the procfs and fdescfs mounted at /)

morning all

heya folks! I just upgraded a machine from 13.2 to 14.0-RC4, and I'd like to move my home from zroot/usr/home to zroot/home; What's a safe and sensible way of doing that?

Beladona: use groups as your user to figure out in which groups it is, for xorg you want to be in video and for webcamd in webcamd that command should just setup the hardware and I think it shouldn't matter which user runs it as long as that user has the permissions to run it

send | receive?

zfs rename?

nimaje: I don't think that works across datasets

Yeah zfs rename is probably what you want ... send | recv will be a lot of wasted IO

meena: wrong

dtomato: it's literally 22 megs lol

haha... ok, well, wasted typing ... and only a little bit of IO :D

meena: I've not had to do such a thing before but came across this: serverfault.com/questions/440632/zf…ame-move-root-filesystem-into-child

Title: zfs rename/move root filesystem into child - Server Fault

now i just have to fix this mount point: zroot/home 17.3M 10.9G 17.3M /zroot/home

well, that was easy. My poudriere build box is now on 14.0-RC4!

how did you fix the zroot/home ?

but why move it at all? /usr/home works perfectly fine; and did you change the home dir for the users?

mns: zfs set mountpoint=/home zroot/home

nimaje: my users are created with /home/$name, but /home was just a symlink, so when you login, it annoyingly showed the "wrong" directory in full path, instead of … nothing, as it does for users who are in the correct path. It's really just a tiny bit of annoyance, that's all

also I think on some sells it can break your PS1

I would probably have fixed the user record to have the correct path instead of changing the path itself

nimaje: I'm just going with the times…

FreeBSD beasdix 14.0-RC4 FreeBSD 14.0-RC4 releng/14.0-n265375-0d4c814512b GENERIC-MMCCAM amd64

After a ZFS installation on the entire disk. Without any extra disks is there any way to install linux alongside it?

nimaje: so what exactly do I need to do now?

Beladona: so your user is part of these two groups? then sorry no idea

hackerman: hm, so you would need a setup where freebsd and linux share the same zpool, as you can't shrink a zpool

nimaje, yes that's what I figured

if you are feeling adventurous you could try if you can get loader_lua to boot linux and create some dataset on the zpool for linux to use and then some loader and zfs juggling to only mount the linux datasets when booting linux and the freebsd dataset when booting freebsd, but no idea if it is possible to boot linux via loader

ghostscript9

eek, sorry y'all.

meena: thanks.

worth noting that loader.efi at least can chainload other EFI applications

it would be incredibly easy to add your own option to the boot menu via local.lua that boots into another OS

(or rather, more likely, another OS' loader)

nimaje: how can I check?

Beladona: id(1)

babz: nimaje: `id` says uid=1001(user1) gid=1001(user1) groups=1001(user1),0(wheel),5(operator),44(video),145(webcamd),920(vboxusers)

meena, yes. . FreeBSD defautls to /home being a symlink to /usr/home. . . but if you're actually building a multi-user system, then I very strongly recommend a dedicated /home volume.

CrtxReavr: starting 14.0 we've migrated to /home

CrtxReavr: now, in 15.0 we might see a merging of /usr/bin and /bin :D

That's prolly unwise.

One of things I've long considered a strong point of FreeBSD is that the project actually follows hier(7).

Almost every linux distro ignores, it, and if you point out the fact enough times, their solutin is just to delete hier(7).

CrtxReavr: every Unix derivate follows their interpretation of hier

False.

and what, exactly, hier is has changed over the past 40+ years.

like, remember when we had binaries in /etc?

Binaries?

No.

Executable scripts, yes.

'Course, Solaris and HP-UX have been really good at ignoring their hier(7) page as well.

I wasn't gonna get out the big guns myself. Glad you got there first.

I mean, yeah, we won't delete hier(7)... we'll just update it to match our new reality

just symlink everything to /system32 frr

we keep moving binaries between /usr/*bin and /*bin as we need them for some part of the boot process, but as the baseline for the machine required (available) to run FreeBSD grows, it's much easier to stop doing that, and just stuff everything into /bin

we could then even go as far as deciding that everything the base system installs is in /*bin and /lib*, and ports are then free to use /usr/*bin and /usr/lib*

heresy, i know, but at least it's shorter paths.

reminds me of this great Suckless(TM) project

Title: Filesystem | static linux

Hey all, I have a work repo server running on FreeBSD that serves several mirrored repos for our internal network hosts that are blocked from the internet. Today I am tasked with adding a RHEL mirror to this. The "solutions" I am finding on The Internet all presume the host is a Hed Rat host and use tools that are only on Hed Rat. Is anyone here able to point me to a resource on how to mirror RHEL package repos on FreeBSD?

Is there any way to turn a uefi ZFS install to also boot legacy after installation?

babz: i wish that site would suck less im.eena.me/uploads/fcb66587fb7336b5…fb2f5e1b976ff98cfc94f359fbce8de.jpg

they would probably have told you that it's your browser that sucks, because it works perfectly with w3m in termux.

guys is device.hints complicated and is there a tut on it ?

im trying to get my microphone working. been all over the forums and google. lots of people have had luck with a verbose boot looking at device.hints changing it and it working. here is my sndstat termbin.com/vx4c

al virtual_oss

s/al/also/

unixman_home: pagure.io/quick-fedora-mirror claims it can do it with zsh, rsync, awk and "the usual core utilities" (and we have dnf in ports, so maybe you could port this "createrepo_c" and do it like trivialfis.github.io/linux/2017/02/…Create-a-local-mirror-with-dnf.html)

Title: Overview - quick-fedora-mirror - Pagure.io

nimaje, thanks! I will look that over. Much appreciated.

im excited a friend we lent a laptop to about a year ago. left to los angelas and gave us the laptop back its a Notebook 7 spin 15.6 gonna put freebsd on it when i get the charger tomorrow from amazon. anyone know what specs are on this thing and if it will work with freebsd ? samsung.com/us/computing/windows-la…6---12gb-ram--np740u5m-x01us/#specs

unixman_home: you could try running the repo thing in a jail with linux emmulation. you could run bhyve and emmulate a linux machine.

unixman_home: you could also set up a linux box and figure out the file structure and rsync them from ... somewhere

jb1277976: looks like you already know the specs. I would be hugely surprised if you had problems running freebsd on this, though you might have trouble with less standard bits like sound, or lid-closure.

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"360 degree rotating display" sounds intriguing, and non-standard. :) Is display position somehow reported to the OS through a Wndows driver? No idea.

ghoti: what do you mean by less standard bits like sound? will sound work ?

also im googleing the nvida driver to see if i can get it working

im going to bsd-hardware.info and uploading my specs to see what works tomorrow

Title: BSD Hardware Database

rtprio, thank you for the suggestions. Of those the jail idea is intriguing. The other two will not be feasible in this situation.

jb1277976: I have not heard of SoundAlive, and the specs for that laptop don't seem to include chipset names for things like USB. After you do some testing, please do contribute your results so others may benefit from them.

Ok I just got a charger from the local store going into bios right now and turning off secure boot

I don't imagine you'll have any trouble with an nvidia 940mx.

friends don't let friends use nvidia.

I think there is Intel on here

intel good. not fast, but good.

Still, even with some NOvideo graphics card you should have no problems, yea, but AMD is the safe bet currently (I think!?).

AMD has been much better since they bought ATI. Before then, I had trust issues with their hardware.

Booted to live cd and ran pciconf -lv looks like a Intel hd graphics 620 a Nvidia GeForce 940mx wireless 8260 a sunrise point-lp smbus

I'll do the bsd hardware stuff after the install

All listed in the specs you posted the URL for earlier. Curious about sound though.

Me too

here you go bsd-hardware.info/?probe=1a996f2f48

Title: HW probe of Samsung 740U5M #1a996f2f48

sound worked just by loading the snd driver :P right out the box

using modsetting for the interl grpahics not using the nvidia

Does anyone use RawTherapee on FreeBSD? I'm having an issue where it crashes when trying to edit NEF files. Crashes in GIMP too with the RawTherapee plugin.

why doesn't sudo echo $SUDO_USER return anything?

because you're trying to echo the $SUDO_USER variable in the shell that is invoking sudo, not the shell invoked by sudo

This microphone works right out of the box :P

zwr oh ya. how do i do that then?

sudo sh -c 'echo $SUDO_USER'

works!!

this laptop needs serious love. it went from 65 to 58 in like 10 mins

65 wot

that for me ?

oh yea crazy huh

trying stuff here wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption

Title: TuningPowerConsumption - FreeBSD Wiki

im at 47

units would be helpful

i will do research on that

what research do you need to write the units your numbers have? I would assume % battery from the context, but that is just a guess